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ok, so this model tells me on monday she wants to shoot wednesday. On Tuesday night she text messages me that she feels ill and wants to come on saturday with another friend who wants to model as well....Then she says she wants to shoot on friday night with a different friend. OK Now it is friday....She told me she would be at my place by 5pm...she then calls and says 6pm....at 6pm i call her and she says "I meant we are leaving at 6pm....model finally arrives at 830 pm with her friend. Friend is also not a model....IE not worth my time to photograph. At about midnight I get a message from the friend's boyfriend that he wants to tell his girlfriend he is pissed at her. I tell him I am not a messaging service and for him to contact her directly..He then sends a message again to me...I give same answer...His third message to me is that he is coming home on monday and I should expect him to stop by....I take this as a threat and forward the messages to the Chicago Police. Now the friend is crying....I am a little pissed...and the model I want to work with is embarrased by her friend's situation, being late and hoping I will work with her again tomorrow.....Any suggestions on 1. How to feel about all this. 2. Were my actions appropriate. 3. Suggestions on whether I should work with this model (not the firend) again? Situation Normal All Fucked Up Aug 26 06 02:04 am Link haha how fun your life is  Aug 26 06 02:12 am Link That whole thing sounds crazy. I'm so so sorry. Aug 26 06 03:09 am Link unreal. Aug 26 06 03:11 am Link Cut and run! There is nothing but misery in your future if you continue to involve yourself with people like this. Forgetting about the friend for a moment, the "model" seems to have no respect for you at all. Why are you letting her walk all over you like this? She changes the days, shows up with someone you have never seen, LATE, and now you are tied up in her friends problems to the point of needed to contact the Police. Get these people out of your life FOREVER! The way you describe these two people reveals everything about their character and integrity. Why would you even consider working with her again? Do you enjoy pain? Aug 26 06 03:17 am Link i saw a picture of the firend, never really thought of the friend as a model, but was doing the photos for fun, but it really wasnt worth any of the troubles Aug 26 06 08:42 am Link 1. ??? You feel how you feel. 2. Your response to the BF was appropriate. 3. I agree with Tim. Take a pass. For all that you may think that it was no big deal to hike your life around her schedule cuz you had nothing else going (assumption cuz you did it), her actions bespeak an enormous amount of disregard for you. But in the end, it's all on you. Your time, your decision. Aug 26 06 08:45 am Link well the model is already coming over today but I will not work with her after today. DJ I will be working with her in the future Aug 26 06 08:53 am Link I wouldn't call this a snafu, since it probably isn't normal for you. This is more along the lines of fumtu - f'd up more than usual  Aug 26 06 08:58 am Link Cyberhawk Studios wrote: ah...i didnt know that one Aug 26 06 09:00 am Link DJ Watts wrote: May God have mercy on you, I'm sure she won't. Aug 26 06 09:13 am Link For situations like these, I recommend bathtub absynth. Aug 26 06 11:16 am Link DJ Watts wrote: You absolutely screwed up by letting it go beyond this stage. Aug 26 06 11:52 am Link I would have been out on Wednesday. I guess the question is: How much do you respect yourself? Aug 26 06 01:03 pm Link Tell her to go home! Aug 26 06 01:06 pm Link Forget it - move on ! Aug 26 06 01:07 pm Link DJ Watts wrote: I'm stunned that you're even asking this question. Aug 26 06 01:47 pm Link Drama, drama, drama...I was talking to a model today that described another model breaking up with her current bf because she enjoyed acting out all the time...aka 'drama queen'...and he wasn't about to put up with it...lol...jezzz...some people screw things up intentionally just to be the center of attention. Aug 26 06 01:59 pm Link some notes i left out.....1 the model is someone i have worked with before and is extremely nice. 2. she really was sick on wednesday 3. she was late on friday due to flash flooding in rockford illinois Aug 26 06 02:22 pm Link DJ Watts wrote: I'm a bit confused by the chronology of events, but along about the 3rd change I would have bowed out. As for the threat, on the coupleof times I received them from sluggos, I usually just email this photo and mention that it's a couple of years old and Thelma and Louise are all grown now. Then I gie my address and comment that 'we' will be waiting for him with baited breath. Aug 26 06 05:22 pm Link reminds me of a shoot in arizona i had set up a couple of weeks ago, 2 models i had worked with once previously, shoot was set for 11.00am, at 10.45am rang the lead models cell, turned off, rang again at 11.00am as models had failed to show,same result, rang again to say i was leaving the premises of the shoot, again cell off, took the crew for a scenic drive up to a local beauty spot took about an hour, driving back past the arranged location [studio] we saw the owner pull in stopped to thank him and advise that shoot did not go thru, this is like 12.25 midday-ish, low and behold another vehicle pulls in behind us out hops one of the booked models , she informs us shes sorry shes late, main model has bailed because her boyfriend does not want her modelling anymore but was to ashamed to call, but she has sent a friend as a replacement, friend has more metal in her face than the average roadside bomb,a tatoo on her leg the size of texas,and wait for it, an armed goddamn escort, now you can guess my response to this one? GET IN YOUR CAR AND SOD OFF FOLKS, if it looks sus and smells sus it usually is sus, and sure as hell not worth the effort. Aug 26 06 05:34 pm Link Another day in the life of a photog dealing with models....... -Glenn Aug 26 06 10:42 pm Link Glenn Francis wrote: no, another day in the life of a photographer dealing with new models who do not take modeling as seriously as their social life, as opposed to models who commit all of their time to different aspects of the industry and therefore it IS the most important thing in their lives. Aug 26 06 10:47 pm Link Very wierd! You went a lot further than I would have. If it was I in that sceaniro the first excuse would have been forgiven. The second excuse and it would have been "don't bother I hate having my time wasted, goodbye." Why do people think their time is worth more than my time??? Or in this case your time! Let me relate a story. I had made a doctors appoint for a specific time. I showed up fifteen minutes early. The doctor had me waiting one half hour past my appointment time. So I informed the secretary I was leaving. A week later I got a bill for $50 for not notifying the doctor of my cancellation. I made out a bill on my own form. Billed the doctor of one hour of my time, $100. End of story. Aug 27 06 12:09 am Link Ok so the saturday shoot. The model Lets call her "A" was actually on time at noon. She brought her friend "B". B is not the same friend as friday night. "B" is actually a rather pretty young lady with stunning bone structure and figure. "A" and "B" settle in read the releases and sign them. "A" runs for food while B works on make-up. A returns shortly(15 mintues) and begins to curl B's hair. By the time the hair is finished it is 3pm....During this 2.5 hour time I play on my laptop and see if any other models care to come over since I have all my gear set up. 2 other models do come over. Models B,C, and D are patient, helpful, and having fun. Model A starts to get tired and crianky. Model A has worked with me before and has shot in most of her outfits with me already. She wants to try a new idea which requires 1. Spray painting then letting dry costume pieces...2. Attaching these pieces with latex paint......3. Long story short a full costume that will take at least 3 hours to build..... Model A then gets very upset because she has run out of time and has to leave but never was able to shoot in her full decked out costume and one outfit on my pool table(this would require moving the backdrop and other furniture for a proper setup). Model A in my opinion is also intimidated by her friend's Model B. Now I explained to model A that while I like both models, Model A is definately more creative, just as pretty, and the model I prefer to work with. Models C and D are in the meanwhile being patient and waiting for me to deal with models A and B who have to leave. Model C's husband who was acting as an escort was wondefully patient and supportive with all this drama going on. So here is my decision as a result. 1. Model A is still welcomed to shoot with me but not with a friend. 2. Model B is more than welcomed back to work with me but not with Model A. 3. Model C and her husband and welcomed back anytime. 4. Model D is a model I have worked with at least a dozen times and will continue to work with. 5. I will no longer shoot any model unless it is clear to them that their parents/spouse/friends do not get into my business.....If they don't like what you are doing....thats your business with them not mine. 6. Models are not allowed to bring their melodrama into my world...you do and you will be asked to leave. 7. I am going to get an online calander for booking shoots....you may readjust a shoot time with notice...but do it two times in a row and you are cut. Aug 27 06 12:48 am Link DJ Watts wrote: And some people wonder why I no longer allow escorts. Never, ever again unless the model is a minor or the person accompanying them is skilled with makeup or styling. Aug 28 06 01:50 pm Link |
