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When does it become pathetic?
There's a model here on MM that lives close to me. That is actually unusual. My home/studio is in the boondock outskirts of Atlanta. To find a model less than 45 minutes from me is a treat! According to the zip code search, she's less than 15 miles from me! She has some okay work - not great - not horrible, and I am very confident I could get some better work with her. I have made two attempts to contact her via MM - even with her IM (she has her AIM name listed in her profile) - but she has ignored me. Not even a "thanks but no thanks". Now I am tempted to send her a third request, but I'm thinking the resounding silence from her is not an indication that she hasn't received my emails, but an answer to my previous requests. On the other hand, I have worked with two models who, after a third email, said they never received any prior contacts, and I've had good working relationships with them. So, your input. Do I let it go, or try one more time? Aug 22 06 08:50 am Link Let it go. Either she's not interested (most likely) or not committed enough to modeling to be reliable (also pretty likely). Aug 22 06 08:52 am Link Two requests should be plenty. Have you posted for models at the community college? Try the theater or dance depts. Also the photography dept., I used to lab assist and a remarkable number of students were also modeling. Aug 22 06 08:54 am Link Sounds fruitless my man. Move on. Aug 22 06 08:55 am Link I would let it go. There are some models in my area who have horrible work on their ports....some with mainly snapshots.....and they ignore requests or decline. Not just me, but other photographers too considering they have shot with like one or two people in the six months I've been on here. Remember...some of them are just flaky. Aug 22 06 08:57 am Link Ed Selby wrote: Purely because the other two models said they did not recieve prior mails I would try one last time. Aug 22 06 08:58 am Link Take the hint. Aug 22 06 09:01 am Link One request is all they get... Aug 22 06 09:04 am Link Kristen Holden wrote: a pretty rude hint. Aug 22 06 09:05 am Link I get several emails a day from models wanting sessions with me and only have time to respond to the one's I want to see. It's a numbers game, move on and email some others until you get some interest. If you are just starting out you may want to consider paying a good professional model instead rather than waste time on flakey wannabes. Aug 22 06 09:06 am Link Does her site say that her activity is current? I only say this because a bunch of my friends are on vacation without the internet with their families. If her activity is current, you can tell she's seen the requests. If its like 5 weeks since she logged in, you might want to give her the benefit of the doubt. That said, I respond to every email because it gets notified through my gmail and I have gmail notifier. I try to be punctual in general, but sometimes its just not available. Aug 22 06 09:11 am Link Ed Selby wrote: it's been said, but i have to agree... since you've had techno demons eat your messages before, it's always worth at least one last try... but when you do, ask her to respond to at least say if she recieved the message or not. Aug 22 06 09:14 am Link Lightwave Photography wrote: Oh, I'm not just starting out. Not at all. I know alllll about the net flakes. I know all too well. Aug 22 06 09:30 am Link Find out where she lives & lie down in a sleeping bag on her front door. Then, if she drives off, be sure to follow her. Call her family & ask them why she doesn't respond to your calls. Photoshop a picture of yourself & her into a single image, making it look like a boyfriend-girlfriend couple; then send her that picture. Find out where she works, and confront her there. Write a poem or two, naming the eight children you two will have together. Or, you can give it up & move on. Aug 22 06 09:48 am Link Looknsee Photography wrote: ooo - great ideas!! Aug 22 06 09:51 am Link First email = interest, second email = professional follow-up, third email = stalking! Dude, don't be a stalker  Aug 22 06 09:54 am Link Check her last update ect...... One last contact if no response let it go ! Silly girl Aug 22 06 09:56 am Link When I first got on MM I thought things were going to be one way and after time I learned that they are completely different. My opinion of what I should have done completely changed. If she is new she may be in her own reality. Your requests alone may have got her thinking she is a hot commodity. Go ahead ask her again... like you said it has happened before. After two months ask her again. If you are still interested in five months ask her again in time she may find the real world again if she is even real herself. It becomes pathetic when she says leave me alone and you persist... silence isn't an answer to anything. (If she is too busy to answer an email you will see it in her ever growing portfolio) We are on MM to set up shoots. As far as wasting time goes you wasted far more time listening to us than you would have writing her a third email. Aug 22 06 10:27 am Link I have given up on models that wouldn't respond but sometimes three or four weeks latet I get a message they are intersted. Hard to figure and may drive you nuts if you try. Aug 22 06 10:33 am Link She probably hasn't answered b/c she's freaked out that you do fetish stuff and she's not at all into that. I've ignored requests after looking at ports w/ lots of nudes. But then again it was a lil' different than the stuff in your port, his had a LOT of bondage. Aug 22 06 10:36 am Link There was a thread here a while ago where the poster was keeping stats on just how many requests were sent out and how many were answered plus how many actually evolved into a shoot. The numbers were dismal. One could only assume that either the models were not very serious about modeling, really disliked the photographer's work, or were actually not available at all. I noticed that there are a lot of inactive model accounts that go way back on this site. You'd thnk they would remove their profiles but mabey they're hoping...just hoping that some big agency will call them and make them rich rather than the little GWC who's just trying to get started because he loves photography. Aug 22 06 10:38 am Link I'm in Atlanta too and there is so many GREAT models around this area, that I would say don't even bother to try again. Rocke Aug 22 06 10:42 am Link Leave her a tag?? Aug 22 06 11:53 pm Link I agree, let it go. Out of every 10 contacts I try to make, I hear back from 3 or 4. The rest I guess are claiming to want to get more experience or have none and want to build a port, but yet won't reply. If they did they might even find out that after a preliminary shoot, if we work well together I would be willing to pay them something for their time. Go figure? Aug 23 06 08:30 am Link I respond to every message I get, I get about 5-10 a day. I send out maybe 4-5 new messages a day and maybe get back 2-3 of them. some people are genuinely busy and some people are genuinely stuck up. Aug 23 06 08:37 am Link Unless the model is absolutely exceptional, one contact. If he/she is exceptional, two attempts and that's it. Aug 23 06 08:44 am Link Hey Ed, Let it go. If she was on vacation, as someone wrote, then she will answer when she gets through her mail. If she doesn't answer then it's her loss, not yours. You are just up the road from me by about 20 minutes or so and there are tons of models in the Atlanta area that are willing to drive a bit for a good shoot. So again, let it go.  Aug 23 06 09:03 am Link |
