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Found this just wandering around on FG...then there was a link. This is from a live journal. LOLLERSKATES Jul. 30th, 2005 @ 03:07 pm vulgarcriminal From a photographer's journal: So I go to thru the agencies but those fuckers see the $$ in the client and start raising their prices-greedy motherfuckers- so I start doing web searches, which is the worst place to find models. I also joined that modelmayhem site- I gotta tell you, looking for models on these things is like dumpster diving-you search search search and maybe come out with a half rotten slice of pizza. Current Mood: amused Tags: amusing photographers, hahahhahahahhahaa (Leave a comment) It is from netmodelreview...anyone care to leave a comment? Here is the link. http://www.deadjournal.com/community/ne … hahahhahaa I hate to think of ourselves as half rotten slices of pizza. Although we have nothing to prove to this dipwad, it distresses me a little. Free speech, it is, but there is alot of talent on this site. Either someone was jealous or just picked one of those fake profiles that exist (as they all do) out there somewhere. Oh well. Back to coffee and looking at beautiful pictures of models on MM. Sun Aug 04 05 06:57 am Link Aww just blow it off. who cares what some blog jockey says..... Back in 1990 when I was attending Brooks ( yep I was a Brookie) one of my instructors made the comment to the class that to "make sure your 1st portfolio is made of soft leather with no sharp corners...... The reason is so when you are showing it to some Jr Art Director and they throw it back at you if it hits your chest it wont hurt as much " Of course we all laughed because we knew he was speaking metaphorically about how hard the Advertising industry is to break into. Well after a few years of assisting in NYC and showing my food and still life book around to various ad agencies I came to the conclusion that Damn he was giving practical advice. :-) There is a reason why its called the ugly business of being beautiful. Oh the thing is the better you are the more people will talk shit on you behind your back. It's like they say, If you want a friend in the advertising industry ....get a dog. Besides it sounds like bullshit to me. If he is shooting for big budget clients why is he pissing about the fees. Those are between the client and the agency. Plus for smaller budget jobs almost all agencies will negotiate on price. Sounds like he isn't qualified to get a agency model and is just "pissing in the wind." If he had any sense he would understand the dynamics of web modeling and agency modes. Nope he just sounds like he's some wanker. Aug 04 05 07:15 am Link Yea just blow it off like Dan says, it is not worth it to even read it. (leaving nasty comment on the site) Soooooo like i was saying, its not worth it. (another nasty comment on the site) Have a nice day Aug 04 05 09:28 am Link dont take comments like that seriously, cause those such as that are complete and utter jokes.... Aug 04 05 09:31 am Link first, with attitudes as he portrayed like that, i wouldnt work with him-- because his attitude is as bad as a week old slice of pizza. stale and hard. not to mention ibased on this attitude - he's not a professional. most professionals tend to watch what they say. --his wife needs to REALLY give him some attention. why visit his blog anymore? its not worth it. Here, it is. because everybody is 'for' everyone! have a great one Aug 04 05 09:33 am Link LOL, it was a funny rant. Aug 04 05 09:34 am Link LOL I just found a photo on that site of a girl in black latex with a darth vader mask on. Cool outfit but funny Aug 04 05 09:36 am Link Posted by Sun Karma: This is a funny phrase if you think about it. Aug 04 05 10:28 am Link I agree - ignore him. I don't think any model with good sense would work with a turd like that anyway. Aug 04 05 03:24 pm Link Posted by Dan Hood: I agree...I mean, I'm an average photographer and I find pretty hot girls on a regular basis...so if he's any good, he should have no trouble at all. Either that I have low standards, but I like to think I know a good looking woman when I see one. Aug 04 05 03:49 pm Link Posted by Sun Karma: He's a poser. Think small male parts need big car you understand the tortured boy's plight. Aug 04 05 03:54 pm Link Hmm, you guys are making all these comments about his work and the models he can get or that he shoots, but I don't think anyone followed the link to the full comments to even see who it is! Seems to be that winkytikipinups guy that everyone seemed to praise so highly when his work was shown on a MM thread a while back: http://www.livejournal.com/users/winkyt … /3883.html You may as well read the whole thing in context, "lollerskates" only quoted a portion of the whole thing and the damning commnets: "Damit! its finally done-all three hundred sixty something images for the book. Probably only about half will be used in the edit, but thats the way it goes I guess. Between having one of the busiest shooting months ever and late nights edting- I'm planning on getting outta dodge for a few. Wait, now I gotta find a name for it-who the hell knows...how about just "book", I feel just as retarded as Tarzan naming his kid "boy". I cant even stand looking at my photos. I picked up a new client that will get me consistent work-West Coast Choppers, shooting girlies for their Sites and stuff. PArt of what I do is casting the models, which seems like an easy task at first, specially since the girls get paid somewhat decently for keeping their clothes on. I guess I was wrong- This is turning into a project as Jesse has a particular idea of the kinda models he wants- Confident girls with an attitude, some ink and rock and roll vibe. Kinda like the SG type except better looking plus Im paying more- So I go to thru the agencies but those fuckers see the $$ in the client and start raising their prices-greedy motherfuckers- so I start doing web searches, which is the worst place to find models. I also joined that modelmayhem site- I gotta tell you, looking for models on these things is like dumpster diving-you search search search and maybe come out with a half rotten slice of pizza. Half the girls are dumbass beach bunnies or import models or overweight goth girls- argh...Or when I find the ones that meet the type, theyre a bunch of amateurs and can only shoot evenings and weekends. Like , Im gonna book locations and crew after hours just to accomodate them- goddam biznatch! Fucking amateur hour! First model I book, gorgeous gal-but looked at me dumbfounded when I gave her the 8 am call time (it is a job after all)-the asked me when she gets the pics-how about I give you some pieces of paper with a picture of ben franklin on it, Dumbass... Oh well, Gotta keep looking- Its actually easier for me to find a girl who'll stick a fist up her ass, do it with a smile, get paid and go home- The adult industry is such a comfort zone for me... The civilian world is far too flaky- Off to my morning beer." Aug 04 05 04:50 pm Link Sounds more like sour grapes than rotten pizza. Maybe he really, really sucks. Aug 04 05 08:51 pm Link Posted by Aaron_H: Thank you for posting that... people always do that half posting thing and it drives me nuts. Aug 04 05 09:02 pm Link Lol who cares what this idoit says. Aug 04 05 09:04 pm Link Viva, I agree. You said it very well. Don't take it personally. I went to the page and actually found a link to some of the most incredible body painting I have ever seen. Aug 04 05 09:36 pm Link After all of what I read, I thought it negative, and didn't go any further. Winkitinki goes some awesome shit..maybe it was just frustration (as we all have) but it just startled me that such a general comment was being said. Aug 04 05 10:10 pm Link Posted by Sun Karma: You just don't know him... but trust me.. the five models/or friends on his "personal" journal know that he is a trip and writes things to make them laugh. He sends me funny emails all the time. There are two sides to every story and people dam "jump the gun" way toooo often. He's just ranting in a funny sort of way. I read rants everyday on those journals! Anyways, back to work. Aug 04 05 10:26 pm Link Hey, after a night of beer, the best thing I've ever tasted is the cold, half-eaten slices of pizza I put in the fridge from the night before...I miss college sometimes!!! Aug 04 05 10:30 pm Link I haven't read this thread. Aug 04 05 10:31 pm Link mmmmmm......pizza Aug 04 05 10:35 pm Link Posted by R0nni3: Oh really well he has already worked with every top fetish model, pin-up model, etc. And we really like this Turd!! Ignore him??? She's on his personal space not the other way around? His work ROCKS! Just one very good example here> Aug 04 05 10:42 pm Link Viva- you call THAT a good photo? I hope he didn't lose sleep planning that one out. That retro stuff is so not edgy.. I heard he also got her pregnant just so he can have the exclusive photo op. I read that somewhere on the internet where everything is TRUE. Viva.love ya, come on over and Ill buy you a beer. Aug 04 05 11:49 pm Link ya gotta have thicker skin being in this industry I think! ;-) Aug 05 05 05:52 pm Link I'll shoot a nice naked pizza tomorrow ,, BTW :-) Aug 05 05 05:56 pm Link Posted by winkytiki: Now that is the best prego chic photo I have ever seen. Tats and all. I wonder if they stretched really bad after the baby? Aug 05 05 06:26 pm Link Livejournal is so state of the art y2k. I have made good friend for years around the world on it, that I meet when I travel. but they give you tons & tons of filter options for a reason. Aug 05 05 07:02 pm Link Octavio is actually a really nice guy. I wouldn't take the comment personally (I'm sure he wasn't talking about you specifically). Hell, even I think there is a ton of bad quality stuff here. Everyone's gotta start somewhere, right? Aug 05 05 07:23 pm Link So, I took a look at the website and it's filled with nothing but I HATE YOU kinda stuff. It's kinda funny. Dan's right though, blow it off. Aug 05 05 07:26 pm Link Posted by Louis Braga: Photographers! They'll shoot almost anything naked.....LOL Aug 05 05 07:27 pm Link Posted by DawnElizabeth: Posted by Louis Braga: Photographers! They'll shoot almost anything naked.....LOL I once shot a naked foot on the beach. Mine actually and by accident when I was checking how many frames I had left in the roll of film. Aug 05 05 07:31 pm Link BIG HINT If the GWC who wrote is WAS A PRO he would NOT be looking for models. He would be a HIRED photographer for who ever his Client is. Also you should post the guys ID so all the models would know who NOT to work with. Aug 05 05 07:41 pm Link Just FYI-- Octavio is NOT associated with the netmodelreview thing on deadjournal.com. And personally, I do not consider him to be a GWC. His work is much higher quality than that. (Shrug.) Aug 05 05 07:45 pm Link Yeah, I LOVE his work! He has great photos and composition! He always does over the top things in his photographs. SO yeah. I would work with him over any "hired/nonhired PHOTOGRAPHER/PRO" that has to trash other photographers to make their character look a little better than their talent. Aug 05 05 07:57 pm Link Posted by latex-fashions: BIG HINT, try reading the thread before posting next time! Aug 05 05 10:41 pm Link Lol that is actually funny Aug 05 05 10:57 pm Link Posted by Sun Karma: Lesson to be learned here people⦠read ALL the words before you go off half cocked. Aug 06 05 12:10 am Link Posted by _VICTOR_: Posted by Sun Karma: Lesson to be learned here people⦠read ALL the words before you go off half cocked. I love when he's in the photos....lol Gotta love it! Aug 06 05 08:38 am Link I only know Octavio/winkytiki via mail but he seems like a funny down to earth guy.. Just reading his 'how to become a glamour photographer faq' cracked me up. The few mails we have exchanged, I'd say he's a honest funny guy, and I can't wait to get my chance to meet him Octavio's seems like the kind of guy I'd definitely want to get drunk with..and that's based on internet communication..meaning a lot from me, being miss-ocpd Aug 06 05 08:56 am Link Oh my god! How dare someone get frustrated and blow off steam on a personal blog! The bastard! Burn him! I'll get the torches. Aug 06 05 10:17 am Link |