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If no one presses the shutter, who owns copyright
It has often been said that the person who presses the shutter owns the copyright so: You set up the camera pointing at something, the street a bird table, whatever. And use a radioactive decay device to trigger the shutter (sound better than a random number generator). Does the owner of the camera own the copyright or does the lump of uranium, or for that matter does god  If I set up a camera with a pressure pad on a bird table and bird lands on it to trigger the shutter, does the bird own the copyright If my camera is in the hold of a plane and is triggered by turbulence, does the airline hold the copyright for the images Have fun Aug 17 06 03:41 am Link Fluffytek wrote: Who ever set up the camera or the pressure pad. You know it. Aug 17 06 03:52 am Link I would say that in all cases you would still own the copyright. In all of your examples you are still intrumental in setting the camera up to take the actual shot, therefore you are the owner of the shot produced by the equipment that you have prepared to capture the image. In the case of the turbulance, you're still the owner of the image, as you had to either load the camera with film, or turn it on, thu you prepared the equipment to capture the image. btw, using trip lines, wires, and other forms of enabling the subject to trip the shutter are accepted standard methods in many types of wildlife photography. In all cases the photographer who owns the equipment and who prepares it to capture the image owns the copyright. Aug 17 06 03:53 am Link Jean-Philippe Martin wrote: Thats not entering into the spirit of things really. Aug 17 06 03:54 am Link That is NOT a complex or arcane situation... the answer is easy and straightforward... the person who sets up the apparatus to capture the image owns the copyright. Studio36 Aug 17 06 03:54 am Link Now if person A and B press the release at the same time... who owns the right? Both. That's it. Aug 17 06 03:54 am Link Fluffytek wrote: There is maybe no such a thing as the spirit of things Aug 17 06 03:56 am Link Jean-Philippe Martin wrote: Not according to Obe-Wan. Use the force Luke ! Aug 17 06 03:58 am Link Fluffytek wrote: Aug 17 06 03:58 am Link Fluffytek wrote: LOL! Then only Obe-Wan will be able to help you in the quest of the truth. Aug 17 06 03:59 am Link Fluffytek wrote: Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Aug 17 06 04:03 am Link Copyright is the intelectual property of the person who creates the image by any means,it is not about camera or shutter or any physical device,it is about imagination and mind of the artist,or creator. Aug 17 06 04:10 am Link What if you drop your camera off a 2nd story balcony which hits the 1st floor fence, triggering the shutter and capturing an outrageous shot of a famous hot model coming out of the pool -- you know those sexy shots where they have that hot look and water is just smoothly flowing over their body. The camera is destroyed but the image is recoverable off the flash. Oh yeah, and the reason you dropped the camera was to shake on the deal to sell it to someone else. Who owns the copyright then? Aug 17 06 05:57 am Link Avanti Photography wrote: Doh, how about this then. Aug 17 06 06:17 am Link I guess the camera appeared by divine providence. Please not a very good question is it? Aug 17 06 06:26 am Link Try dropping your camera Hope that works out for you. Its all good. Aug 17 06 06:31 am Link This is supposed to be a silly, fun thread. Hence all the smilies in the OP. Aug 17 06 06:39 am Link I own it. Quit stealing my photos. Aug 17 06 11:05 am Link DarioImpiniPhotography wrote: what shutter speed are you gonna use for that?? Aug 17 06 11:30 am Link US law does not say "He who presses the button owns the copyright." This is a general guideline, and does not apply in certain circumstances. Copyright provides protection for the creative process. According to the US copyright office (www.copyright.gov) "The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work. Only the author or those deriving their rights through the author can rightfully claim copyright." In other words, copyright belongs to the person(s) who created (authored) the intellectual property. In many situations, the photographer sets the lights, chooses the models, the poses, camera positions, etc. and presses the button. In such a case, the photographer, as the author of the work, owns the copyright. If another person 'presses the button' without providing any creative input, they do not have a valid claim to copyright. In a situation where the photography is purely mechanical, and absolutely NO creative input is involved, then the image may not be protected by copyright. If you claim there is something protectable about the image, you are claiming that some creativity was required to take the image. The person who came up with the creativity is the natural copyright holder. Aug 17 06 01:16 pm Link I would say that if you have to ask... you don't deserve the copyright. Aug 17 06 01:19 pm Link Jean-Philippe Martin wrote: If it was done like a firing squad, A, B, and C would each press a shutter, one of which would not be active. Therefore, it would not be known who held the copyright. Aug 17 06 01:25 pm Link Well..............The bird owns the copyright, the turbulence that set the camera off owns the copyright, the radioactive material owns the copyright.......... After all this, you can be a manager..........hell this even qualififies you as a MM manager.....actualy you may be overqualified after all this. LOL Aug 17 06 02:12 pm Link Jean-Philippe Martin wrote: rp_photo wrote: Whoever's fingers are still intact after the debate Aug 17 06 02:51 pm Link me, of course, because i own the woodchipper Aug 17 06 02:56 pm Link DarioImpiniPhotography wrote: Sorry, this belongs in the "Tilted" thread. Aug 17 06 03:05 pm Link If the shot came out tilted I would put it up for critique and check opinion if the model's head was tilted correctly or not. My assumption is that the shot came out upright, or correctly tilted. In either case, the shutter speed is at 1/1000. Aug 17 06 03:09 pm Link In that case the copyright would belong to the little weasel who picked up the pieces, ripped off the flash card and ran off like a bat out of hell. Aug 17 06 03:14 pm Link The person who was smoking more pot when the photo was taken definitely owns the copyright. If they were both high, the person who passed out last and can still remember he had a radioactive device. Aug 17 06 04:30 pm Link |
