N3 Media wrote:
I recently worked with a model who made a good point that Modeling and Photography are nothing more than varying degrees of Exhibitionism and Voyeurism.  I thought it was a good point that I haven't been able to refute, really... and kind of an interesting perspective, too.

Any thoughts or comments about it?

If you use the word: varying degree ... You can manipulate it into a LOT of other things.. not just exhibitionism and/or voyeurism

N3 Media wrote:
I recently worked with a model who made a good point that Modeling and Photography are nothing more than varying degrees of Exhibitionism and Voyeurism.  I thought it was a good point that I haven't been able to refute, really... and kind of an interesting perspective, too.

Any thoughts or comments about it?

If you do it for free, it's Exhibitionism and Voyeurism. If you receive money Exhibitionisn and Voyeurism are just a perk of the job.

After all, we are professionals here!

FKVPhotoGraphics wrote:
If you do it for free, it's Exhibitionism and Voyeurism. If you receive money Exhibitionisn and Voyeurism are just a perk of the job.

After all, we are professionals here!

Good point! How stupid of me! 

See? 
It's consumate pros like you who have the know how
to delineate such fine nuances!

oldguysrule wrote:
funny i thought they were photography and modelling. isn't that sufficient?

Of course it is, but isn't it fun to explore different interpretations of what we do?

bang bang photo wrote:
I've never known a great model who didn't have some exhibitionistic tendencies; I've never known a great photographer who wasn't a bit of a voyeur.

Right on with this!

bang bang photo wrote:
I've never known a great model who didn't have some exhibitionistic tendencies; I've never known a great photographer who wasn't a bit of a voyeur.

Well said!

N3 Media wrote:
I recently worked with a model who made a good point that Modeling and Photography are nothing more than varying degrees of Exhibitionism and Voyeurism.  I thought it was a good point that I haven't been able to refute, really... and kind of an interesting perspective, too.

Any thoughts or comments about it?

The trouble I have is determining if the model was making a reference to sexually "deviant" behavior.  For example, there are two definitions of exhibitionism... one is the act of drawing attention to one self through egotistical behavior.. the other definition is the act of exposing the genitalia in public. If she was using these terms with a sexual/erotic connotation to them, then I'd have to strongly disagree with her.  I'm a photographer. I, like all photographers, have a strong voyeuristic tendency (in that i have a strong reaction to visual stimuli). If I shoot landscapes, I'm not a voyeur in the sexual sense but I'm still reacting to my voyeuristic tendencies.  A model may or may not do what she does from an egotistical drive.  I would think that, for some, in certain situations, modeling is about obliterating the self and projecting something other.  this could still be feeding a deep egotistical need but it does not always have to be the case.
So, while I feel that the exhibitionist and the voyeur are clearly traits within the model and photographer respectively, the model's comment really doesn't state that much.  I don't think i could have let such a blanket statement go without a response of "how do you mean?" or some other question of that sort.
i think it's an over-simplified statement and there is really so much more to it under the surface.

p.s. i hope this thoughtful reply helps to diminish the negative opinion some (Alan!!) may have of me... just because my penis has accidentally fallen out of my pants at photo shoots and that i've written about such occurances here on the forums.