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Are instant messangers professional?
The way he was talking and writing was definately not professional. but i dont think anything is wrong with contacting through a messenger. i've contacted models through them, models have contacted me through them, etc. maybe it is the way you write and type on them that shows professionalism? Aug 11 06 11:03 am Link I don't even have an IM. When I had one it always caused problems with my internet connection, and I eventually found out from my ISP that AOL Instant Messenger was the problem. Then, I was always getting annoying spam messages, random people messaging me, etc. Even IM's from friends can be impositions if you are in the middle of editing an image or something. Not to mention that I find it difficult to compse my thoughts when "chatting". Then everybody kept switching around - one year they were on AIM, the next on Y! Messenger, ICQ, MSN Messenger. I had to have one of each - and all of them open and running a the same time. What a pain! Someone eventually told me a year or two ago to get "Trillian" some app that consolidates all to one or something. But it didn't and still doesn't (as far as I know) work on Mac! It is all so frustrating. Aug 11 06 11:05 am Link DigitalCMH wrote: Gosh -- I wonder why they don't do it then? (Please don't tell me it's because doctors, etc. hate technology -- I know better). Aug 11 06 11:06 am Link It *can* be professional. If you have your AIM, MSN, Yahoo!, or other chat name included in your MM profile then you can probably expect to be contacted that way. But if it's a true professional contat they will begin by stating who they are, who they work for, and where you can find their work. They will also be happy to give you references of models they have worked for and whose site you can find their images. If you don't get this, post what info you have on them and block them. We don't need another beautiful girl disappearing. Aug 11 06 11:09 am Link Eric Tragedy wrote: another reason those using it look ... not serious Aug 11 06 11:14 am Link bang bang photo wrote: It can be. I work for the best-known software company on the planet and we use an IM platform for about 80% of our 'on-the-fly' communication. Aug 11 06 11:19 am Link bang bang photo wrote: Maybe for the same reason doctors don't set their own appointments. How many times have you called your doctor's office and had the doctor answer the phone? Aug 11 06 11:24 am Link bang bang photo wrote: They don't do it because their jobs don't keep them seated at a desk working on a computer. They don't have time to devote sitting on a computer and answer people's IMs. Aug 11 06 11:24 am Link my opinion on it is no, it's not professional at all. but the reason I wanted to reply to this posting was because I read that he wouldn't tell you where he got your email address or how he knew that you modeled. The other day I got an email at my Yahoo! email address and it was an E-Card from an address I didn't recognize. Normally I would have deleted it (as spam) but I read it and it was a short love note. So I replied to the email address asking who this person was. through a series of emails back and forth (him definitely hitting on me trying to get my phone number to seduce me) I discover that he had found my picture on a motorcycle parts website (for his Ducati) and thought I was stunning so he decided to email me. I have been trying to get the web address out of him but he hasn't revealed it. So I don't know if a photographer sold my pictures and email address to someone?? I would hope that a photographer would have more common sense than to just hand out my email address....I'm still investigating but I am hoping it's just a friend of mine playing a sick joke.... Aug 11 06 11:33 am Link I always have my Yahoo on, and sometimes I start up Trillian which lets me chat with anyone on AIM, Y!, MSN, and ICQ at the same time. I have never experienced any issues with my internet connection, and I rarely get random messages or spam (and the senders get quickly blocked). Eric Tragedy wrote: Aug 11 06 11:35 am Link if you seriously have to ask the question, you should probably be banned from the internet by your mommy, daddy or guardian. use yer fekkin noodle. Aug 11 06 11:39 am Link I took my im off my portfolio. I like to discuss business using business communication tools, the phone being my least favorite, as it's a pain to record and type everything said in a convo and I like to have a copy of what's discussed saved in case anything goes differently but mostly to help me remember what I am supposed to do, where, how I am to prepare, and what to bring/wear. If you tell me this over the phone or instant messenger, and expect me to remember, I'm probably gonna end up messing something or everything up. I hate when photographers force me to plan over aim or the phone, and will soon stop working with those that do. I've taken college courses on business communication, they do not cover instant messaging. I am not a fan of instant communication, and hate to try to use them for business. Aug 11 06 12:55 pm Link It's a shame that in this day and age of modern technology we scorn certain avenues in which people choose to communicate with one another on a "professional" level. Especially when one has the option of listing it (IM) as a source of contact through a website such as this. I too would probably think it unprofessional if someone's only initial contact with me was through an IM, however this is because this is the stigma or taboo that is placed on these means of communication. Understandably so, since yes, there are a lot of scammers out there that find this method of communication a convenient way of keeping ones anonymity. That said, this site does offer it as a source of communication so 'don't shoot the messenger', so to speak, just yet. Hopefully one day the marvels of modern technology will actually make our lives a little more convenient instead of creating such cynical stereotypes. I mean hey, when Henry Ford starting developing the automobile people thought he was a fool and noone would ever travel by those means. So the next time you want to possibly book a model that might be out of state, hop on your horse and make the journey to talk to the model in person because then he/she will know that your sincere and professional! Or just use common sense and go with your gut and experience. ![]() Aug 11 06 01:12 pm Link Oh well, thanks all for the feedback, I mainly wanted to know if any professionals talk like people on aim do (not everybody)Ill post back if her ever signs on again. u guys r 2 cool. k thnx bye. Aug 11 06 01:21 pm Link I'm curious - how many models here have actually received legitimate, followed-through work offers through IM? I'm not talking about someone who e-mailed you first, but someone who initially contacted you through IM and ended up having a real-life photoshoot with you. I'm suspecting there won't be a lot of people who answer in the affirmative... Considering that it seems like every other day models are on here complaining that some random creep tried to scam them/harass them/get them to do "webcam auditions" (i.e. free porn shows) over IM, I'm frankly amazed that anyone still lists their IM contact info on their profile. Aug 11 06 01:25 pm Link It's possible to use an instant messenger program in a very professional manner, and it can have lots of real advantages: no long distance charges, easy file sharing, conferencing, voice communication, photo sharing, automatic logging of the conversation, etc... I used to do some work for a small software company in Scotland (from my location in the USA), and we used Yahoo Instant Messenger all the time. It saved a huge amount of time, compared to emails. It also saved a lot of money, compared to a telephone. Being able to send photos and software back and forth, and do conferences was the icing on the cake. However, the person described in the original post is NOT acting professionally. It's not a problem with instant messaging. It's a problem with the that person. Unfortunately, there are too many other out there like him. Instant messaging is good. Unprofessional idiots are badâno matter what means they use to communicate with you. take care, Glen Aug 11 06 01:31 pm Link Catriona wrote: NONE right here. Aug 11 06 01:34 pm Link AIM= FitDist ;-) and I guess smilies are bad too right? Just connect people and never waste anyone's time while you do it. Not responding to an IM is the same as hanging up a phone on that person, so ultimately there is always a person on the other end of whatever. Manners are far more important then what text book professionalism is. SPAM or Cons are not what this post was about right? Aug 11 06 01:40 pm Link Glen Berry wrote: Wonderful, thank you. Aug 11 06 01:41 pm Link i think it is just another form of communication. just a tool. it is all about how that communication transpires. if he can;t follow up to you with any direct contact info or seems to be talking in a decietful manner, go with your gut Aug 11 06 01:45 pm Link Yahoo! messenger can save all your conversations with date/time stamp so you know when and how long you spoke to someone. I have all conversations I've had with models online when setting up shoots or meetings. Tara Jane wrote: Aug 12 06 02:21 am Link oldguysrule wrote: ...sage words. Aug 12 06 09:32 am Link Anjel Britt wrote: Just for the technolgy view, IMs create the same electronic trails that emails do and they are harder to spoof (fake) than emails. IM is used by EVERY Fortune 500 company in some form to support their business mission. Aug 12 06 10:10 am Link I don't use or have any messengers - would prevent me from getting my work done. Just my 2cents. Aug 12 06 02:03 pm Link Exercise self control and work when you're supposed to, and chat only during breaks. 00Philip00 wrote: Aug 13 06 12:02 pm Link The US Military has an extensive CHAT network, believe it or not...it has better encryption than voice nets... You can chat from a fox-hole in Iraq with a ship in the Med...or anywhere else in the world.. IM is just another form of communication that will soon be used world-wide everywhere at all levels of gov't and society...I really doubt its going away. THAT BEING SAID, nothing beats meeting someone in person, shaking their hands, and looking them in the eye to square them out. Aug 13 06 12:26 pm Link Tikal wrote: IM is not a "professional" way to make initial contact with some one. Send an e-mail with a link to examples of your work. Write a professional e-mail with CORRECT GRAMMAR. Aug 13 06 12:29 pm Link No it's absolutely not professional. And the spelling errors (not just "u" for "you") is appalling anyway. Aug 13 06 12:33 pm Link I'm a 47 year-old male who takes pride in my online savvy in terms of website creation, online forums and portfolios, MySpace, and e-mail communications. A big exception is chat and other forms of instant communication, towards which I have a more "old fart" attitude. I don't like 'em! Aug 13 06 12:40 pm Link Robert_Vega wrote: I agree with this. I think any form of communication can be turned "professional." The most important factors are of course to establish the validity and identity of the people in the IM conference, and that they have the same agenda or purpose for the chat. Aug 13 06 12:46 pm Link I have used it once I have established the contact via email with models... I have a shoot coming up that the only way I could get the model to set a date to shoot with me was to catch her on AIM and say Hey when are you going to book that shoot we have been talking about for 3 months. Aug 13 06 01:46 pm Link PPRO Analyst wrote: yikes! Aug 13 06 05:44 pm Link umm that's just wierd. Aug 13 06 07:09 pm Link |