rickspix wrote:
this reminds me of an experience i had many years ago. i was asked to take a portrait of the mayor of san francisco and his family for their christmas card in the mayors office at city hall. i did it on a sunday and the mayor and his wife and six kids and dog were there and i had to pose the shot and organize them and of course light the scene etc. the mayors wife had a friend at the shoot and she asked if she could take a snap of the set up i did. she had a 35mm camera with built in flash and was about to take a snap and i decided to let her plug into my studio strobes i had set up so i asked her what her asa was so i could tell her what f stop to use. she fired off a few shots and i didnt think anything of it. later that week the mayor was assassinated so this was the final portrait. i was kind of in shock as he was someone i knew and the following week i ended up picking up a time magazine to read the article about the tragedy when i came across my portrait. i wondered how time magazine got the photo and then i saw the photo credit and of course it was the mayors wifes friend. talk about being one upped. she would have never gotten a decent photograph without my set up and of course my lighting as she just had a built in flash. anyway i eventually called her to set the record straight and she didnt even blink an eye.
arrrrrggghhhhhh, but since then i have never allowed anyone to ever use my set up or shoot in my studio with my lights ever again. so beware of supposedly amature photographers.

The mayor was assasinated, and you were upset that someone got credit for your picture....

rickspix wrote:
well i still cry about it when reminded of it as that was a terrible thing. i cried for weeks. it was an amazing thing in the history of our city and it shaped politics in san francisco for many years after. mayor moscone was a friend and supervisor harvey milk was also killed that same day.

i was just commenting on the thread as it reminded me of it. i am not a cold hearted bastard which is why i didnt even think of selling that shot to the press. i am not an ambulance chaser.

I was joking..remember...I'm trying to cause useless drama?

rickspix wrote:
well i still cry about it when reminded of it as that was a terrible thing. i cried for weeks. it was an amazing thing in the history of our city and it shaped politics in san francisco for many years after. mayor moscone was a friend and supervisor harvey milk was also killed that same day.

i was just commenting on the thread as it reminded me of it. i am not a cold hearted bastard which is why i didnt even think of selling that shot to the press. i am not an ambulance chaser.

Yeah and Dan White got away with murder.   I wonder too how different SF would have been had those two lived.   And I kinda doubt that Diane F. would be our Senator.

It's an all around crappy story.

KM von Seidl wrote:
Can someone tell me why people don't have control over their shoots/sets?

You let people into your house so they can rummage through your underwear drawer and refrigerator as well?

You keep your underwear in a drawer?
Wow

SLE Photography wrote:

You keep your underwear in a drawer?
Wow

For shoots, shouldn't you have them hanging on the wardrobe rack?

SLE Photography wrote:

You keep your underwear in a drawer?
Wow

Actually many drawers....

KM von Seidl wrote:
Actually many drawers....

*looks at the "CLEAN" laundry basket and the pairs without too many holes"

You women & your funny ideas! 

Iris Swope wrote:

For shoots, shouldn't you have them hanging on the wardrobe rack?

No.  I invite escorts and homeless people off the street to come into my house and add their underwear to my private collection.  And they can eat all my food too.   I also let them have sex with the model.  And they can take photos too.  The homeless guy gets a full release.  The escort gets an immediately burned CD.   The model can sit down at my computer and start altering the the shots from the shoot and everyone can put their own copyright on the shots.

SLE Photography wrote:
You keep your underwear in a drawer?
Wow

Iris Swope wrote:
For shoots, shouldn't you have them hanging on the wardrobe rack?

Oh, I avoid that by not letting models wear panties while I shoot them 

SLE Photography wrote:

*looks at the "CLEAN" laundry basket and the pairs without too many holes"

You women & your funny ideas! 

Sad but true!  What's worse is I'm needing more space for clothing for other people or projects rather than myself.

SLE Photography wrote:
*looks at the "CLEAN" laundry basket and the pairs without too many holes"

You women & your funny ideas! 

KM von Seidl wrote:
Sad but true!  What's worse is I'm needing more space for clothing for other people or projects rather than myself.

Heh, I make it a point not to keep lingerie or swimsuits for the models.  Other items, yes (I have a BOX full of basic 3 " heels since so many models don't OWN any normal heels) but if I get them lingerie or swimsuits that touch private bits, they keep them as part of their compensation.  So no panty storage!

rickspix wrote:
that was the jump dianne f got as she became mayor. she ran for mayor a few times and always lost so she would have never gotten a higher office until it fell in her lap so to speak. now she is one of the most powerful woman in america.

the movie "the times of harvey milk" is a documentary about those days and it is an amazing film, it won an academy award for best documentary when it came out.  check it out

That documentary rocked.  I saw it while they were still editing it.

The book is good too.   Both are inspirational.

SLE Photography wrote:

SLE Photography wrote:
You keep your underwear in a drawer?
Wow

Oh, I avoid that by not letting models wear panties while I shoot them 

No, no, no. You hang yours on the rack, so you appear more professional. It looks like you have complete wardrobe, and you make up pretensious lies about what\who you are shooting later today....

When they ask why there are holes in the underwear...you tell them it's the vintage look!


(this is in no way is affiliated to the hijacked shoot earlier today)

SLE Photography wrote:

SLE Photography wrote:
*looks at the "CLEAN" laundry basket and the pairs without too many holes"

You women & your funny ideas! 

Heh, I make it a point not to keep lingerie or swimsuits for the models.  Other items, yes (I have a BOX full of basic 3 " heels since so many models don't OWN any normal heels) but if I get them lingerie or swimsuits that touch private bits, they keep them as part of their compensation.  So no panty storage!

Oh see, that's the problem.  None of the clothing I have my models wear have crotches in them!

KM von Seidl wrote:
Can someone tell me why people don't have control over their shoots/sets?

You let people into your house so they can rummage through your underwear drawer and refrigerator as well?

Very well put  Bravo!

Farenell Photography wrote:
No, its not normal. But the photographer did invite another person to shoot. So what's the problem?

My husband, who is also my escort, who is also a photographer has also done this.  In cases where the shoot is in a studio and the flashes are synchro of course not, but in same cases when they are outdoors he will take some pics from a distance of course, and he is very sure he doesn't bother the photographer, who always give permission of course.

In some cases, when the photographer has more than 1 camera, they sometimes give the spare to him, to shoot from a different angle, just for fun.  Below is our last shoot!



Here is the pic my husband took with Joe Abejon's Canon 30D.  Ana Abejon was shooting with a Canon 5D but wouldn't let John or Joe play with that one!!! 

BY THE WAY, I KNOW THIS IS AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT ALL MY SHOOTS PLZ DON'T THINK THAT!!!!  This is every once in awile and only with photographers we know well, and at TFP/CD type shoots, we would never do this at a paid shoot of course!!!!

rickspix wrote:
this reminds me of an experience i had many years ago. i was asked to take a portrait of the mayor of san francisco and his family for their christmas card in the mayors office at city hall. i did it on a sunday and the mayor and his wife and six kids and dog were there and i had to pose the shot and organize them and of course light the scene etc. the mayors wife had a friend at the shoot and she asked if she could take a snap of the set up i did. she had a 35mm camera with built in flash and was about to take a snap and i decided to let her plug into my studio strobes i had set up so i asked her what her asa was so i could tell her what f stop to use. she fired off a few shots and i didnt think anything of it. later that week the mayor was assassinated so this was the final portrait. i was kind of in shock as he was someone i knew and the following week i ended up picking up a time magazine to read the article about the tragedy when i came across my portrait. i wondered how time magazine got the photo and then i saw the photo credit and of course it was the mayors wifes friend. talk about being one upped. she would have never gotten a decent photograph without my set up and of course my lighting as she just had a built in flash. anyway i eventually called her to set the record straight and she didnt even blink an eye.
arrrrrggghhhhhh, but since then i have never allowed anyone to ever use my set up or shoot in my studio with my lights ever again. so beware of supposedly amature photographers.

Opps, double post.....This is an amazing story and lesson.....won't forget it.  Thanks

Ximena Bright wrote:
My husband, who is also my escort, who is also a photographer has also done this.  In cases where the shoot is in a studio and the flashes are synchro of course not, but in same cases when they are outdoors he will take some pics from a distance of course, and he is very sure he doesn't bother the photographer, who always give permission of course.

Umm yeah... as apposed to them saying NO... and then him leaving with you!  Be assured... it is NEVER REALLY okay.  If you so badly need your driver to take your picture... have the shoot with him!

Steven Bigler wrote:
Umm yeah... as apposed to them saying NO... and then him leaving with you!  Be assured... it is NEVER REALLY okay.  If you so badly need your driver to take your picture... have the shoot with him!

Yeah, if you need your driver to shoot...you want until you're done with the shoot, and then reshoot in the same spot!
After the photographer is gone of course...

Steven Bigler wrote:

Umm yeah... as apposed to them saying NO... and then him leaving with you!  Be assured... it is NEVER REALLY okay.  If you so badly need your driver to take your picture... have the shoot with him!

Well last time, we were at a lighthouse he had never been at before, and wasn't planning on shooting, because we already had 2 photographers...so he was off doing his own scene taking pics of the lighthouse when one of them who was holding the reflector asked him if he wanted to shoot with his.

And if its in a studio or outside with low light and the photographer is using flashes he NEVER even asks, and lets the togs do their job.  Anyway, like I said, it doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes.

Iris Swope wrote:

Yeah, if you need your driver to shoot...you want until you're done with the shoot, and then reshoot in the same spot!
After the photographer is gone of course...

but by then the sun has already set!  Just kidding....

megafunk wrote:
So if the escort morphed into a photographer, how on EaRFFF did the model feel safe?!?!?!!

lol!!!!
big time LOL!!!!!!!!!
hahahahaha

Ximena Bright wrote:

but by then the sun has already set!  Just kidding....

Isn't setting sun some of the best light?

Iris Swope wrote:

Isn't setting sun some of the best light?

I mean set, as in way too dark, the real photographers already used up the good light and my husband has a POS camera (piece of sh*t) with no good flash