SKPhoto wrote:

Yeah, same thing for photographers...models who require escorts seem unprofessional and unstable, and screams "paranoid whackjob"!!!

wOw.  interesting comment (2nd quote)

i believe that if a model feels that she NEEDS an escort, then she should not shoot with the photographer PERIOD.  but if she is bringing an escort just to be safe, then i believe that is smart and there shouldn't be a problem.  it is not unprofessional @ at all.  your comment itself is EXTREMELY unprofessional and speaks volumes.

it is so true that when you just listen, people tell you who they are in minutes.  in your case, you screamed "INSECURE GWC"

-J

oOoJESSICAoOo wrote:
wOw.  interesting comment (2nd quote)

i believe that if a model feels that she NEEDS an escort, then she should not shoot with the photographer PERIOD.  but if she is bringing an escort just to be safe, then i believe that is smart and there shouldn't be a problem.  it is not unprofessional @ at all.  your comment itself is EXTREMELY unprofessional and speaks volumes.

it is so true that when you just listen, people tell you who they are in minutes.  in your case, you screamed "INSECURE GWC"

-J

They don't teach editorial satire or analogy in school anymore do they?

Google logical fallacies before attempting to argue against satirical rebuttal let alone things in reality.

By the way, you just screamed "unable to recognize sarcasm, humor, and I'm a name caller".  Next photogapher to work with you will wonder if he'll be accused of something because you missed a sarcastic cue, or misinterpreted something he said because of your mindset.

Wonder how many doors that just closed?

RedHeadPrincess wrote:
Go ahead and tell the model that your studio is in your home that way she knows.

......and starts imagining every horror story and headline she’s ever seen or read.

-Glenn

SKPhoto wrote:

They don't teach editorial satire or analogy in school anymore do they?

Google logical fallacies before attempting to argue against satirical rebuttal let alone things in reality.

By the way, you just screamed "unable to recognize sarcasm, humor, and I'm a name caller".  Next photogapher to work with you will wonder if he'll be accused of something because you missed a sarcastic cue, or misinterpreted something he said because of your mindset.

Wonder how many doors that just closed?

OoOops.....forgot to laugh. HaHa.

You are absolutely right about me not recognizing the humor & smart ass sarcasm in your post.  And you are damn right I'm a name-caller, but so are you....so who are you to point it out like it's such an awful thing?   (("paranoid whackjob"!!!))

I love how you also attempted to tie the "not getting your SARCASM" into my work.  VERY interesting and absolutely hilarious...nice try.

Why don't you just start throwing "Yo MaMa" jokes @ me? HaHa.

Throw me another! You are fun....WoOoO!! it's getting nice & feisty in here

-J

SKPhoto wrote:
They don't teach editorial satire or analogy in school anymore do they?

Google logical fallacies before attempting to argue against satirical rebuttal let alone things in reality.

By the way, you just screamed "unable to recognize sarcasm, humor, and I'm a name caller".  Next photogapher to work with you will wonder if he'll be accused of something because you missed a sarcastic cue, or misinterpreted something he said because of your mindset.

Wonder how many doors that just closed?

They don't teach grammar or spelling either.


I include a link to a picture of my location in my email correspondence with models.

oOoJESSICAoOo wrote:
wOw.  interesting comment (2nd quote)

SKPhoto wrote:
They don't teach editorial satire or analogy in school anymore do they?

By the way, you just screamed "unable to recognize sarcasm, humor, and I'm a name caller". 

Next photogapher to work with you will wonder if he'll be accused of something because you missed a sarcastic cue, or misinterpreted something he said because of your mindset.

Wonder how many doors that just closed?

Since you are wondering, I'll tell you.  Not a single door just closed.  She is an amazing model, an absolute pro, and has more offers to shoot than days to fulfill them.  She probably turns down more shoots than you offer.

She is also a very gifter photographer.  Be careful of this one...

Daguerre wrote:
I have 2 studios, and sometimes shoot out of my house.  I don't believe that the studio location is important.  If a model asks me where I intend to photgraph her, I will tell her. Eventually. But I believe it is foolish to apologize for where your studio is set up.  I never bring it up.

"By the way, I shoot out of my living room. Ah-- you got a problem with that?"  Why would I care, as a model, where you create your world acclaimed pulitzer prize winning art?  And why would you apologize for it?

Instead, I'd rather talk about concept and styling.  To me, much more important than where we shoot.  If a model looks at my book and my client list and worries about where we are going to shoot, then we probably won't...

And no, that wasn't attitude, in case anyone was wondering...

THAT's my position on the whole matter - exactly.  Glad to hear someone else agrees.  Couldn't have said it better.

-Glenn

Lexi Evans wrote:
as long as your lamp shades were not designed by Ed gein, its not a big deal. just tell them.

wow...that's funny!

I use a home set up too...I tell them it's in my apartment...i figure, if that made any difference, my work would look a lot shittier than it is...But, it looks fine...and any model who thinks it does make a difference, they're nutso and have no clue.

(female photographer with a "townhouse" apartment studio)

Daguerre wrote:
I have 2 studios, and sometimes shoot out of my house.  I don't believe that the studio location is important.  If a model asks me where I intend to photgraph her, I will tell her. Eventually. But I believe it is foolish to apologize for where your studio is set up.  I never bring it up.

"By the way, I shoot out of my living room. Ah-- you got a problem with that?"  Why would I care, as a model, where you create your world acclaimed pulitzer prize winning art?  And why would you apologize for it?

Instead, I'd rather talk about concept and styling.  To me, much more important than where we shoot.  If a model looks at my book and my client list and worries about where we are going to shoot, then we probably won't...

And no, that wasn't attitude, in case anyone was wondering...

I didn't read it as attitude, I just read it as a reflection of someone who is in a different reality.

You see, you "test" you don't do tfp do you?  You have a client list that is admirable.  You have even digitally fixed the work of some big name photogaphers.  You don't have to solicit models I bet, you get the option of turning them down in droves. 

Different reality than a no-name art photographer.

I don't dwell on where a model and I will be working but I let them know.  I don't have a special non-home studio, mine is a converted garage.  Does this matter?  Well if a model is thinking of the images of studios they've seen on ANTM, yeah.  And speaking of which I warn models in passing that I use "funky gear," as well.  Cameras that might look as toys to them, and non-digital so that I can't instantly burn them a CD while they're waiting.   I think this is one of the reasons why I like working with art models (young or old) or older models (ones without visions of becoming the next IT girl and who just is serious about their craft)...there's just a lot of focus on getting the image and not worries about the photographers studio etc.

Peter Dattolo wrote:
Model: Your studio is in your house?
Photog: Yea, i can show you.....come on
~Model and Photog walk down the hall to the master bedroom~
Model: This is your studio?
Photog: Yea it works good, the bed is close by for those intimate shots, the bathroom is right over there for the shower and bathtub type shots....
Model: But this is your closet!?!?!?
Photog: It's my Studio....It just looks like a closet........The lights are not on right now.
Model: Why do you have that big flashlight on the floor there?
Photog: Oh that.........Thats my lighting.........The cardboard painted silver i use as my reflector...........can you pose and hold the reflector when we shoot?

That b*tch swore to me that she wouldn't tell a soul!  NEVER trust a model!!!

Daguerre wrote:
I have 2 studios, and sometimes shoot out of my house.  I don't believe that the studio location is important.  If a model asks me where I intend to photgraph her, I will tell her. Eventually. But I believe it is foolish to apologize for where your studio is set up.  I never bring it up.

"By the way, I shoot out of my living room. Ah-- you got a problem with that?"  Why would I care, as a model, where you create your world acclaimed pulitzer prize winning art?  And why would you apologize for it?

Instead, I'd rather talk about concept and styling.  To me, much more important than where we shoot.  If a model looks at my book and my client list and worries about where we are going to shoot, then we probably won't...

And no, that wasn't attitude, in case anyone was wondering...

KM von Seidl wrote:
I didn't read it as attitude, I just read it as a reflection of someone who is in a different reality.

You see, you "test" you don't do tfp do you?  You have a client list that is admirable.  You have even digitally fixed the work of some big name photogaphers.  You don't have to solicit models I bet, you get the option of turning them down in droves. 

Different reality than a no-name art photographer.

I don't dwell on where a model and I will be working but I let them know.  I don't have a special non-home studio, mine is a converted garage.  Does this matter?  Well if a model is thinking of the images of studios they've seen on ANTM, yeah.  And speaking of which I warn models in passing that I use "funky gear," as well.  Cameras that might look as toys to them, and non-digital so that I can't instantly burn them a CD while they're waiting.   I think this is one of the reasons why I like working with art models (young or old) or older models (ones without visions of becoming the next IT girl and who just is serious about their craft)...there's just a lot of focus on getting the image and not worries about the photographers studio etc.

Kim, I swear to you that what I am about to say is a lesson that repeats itself as truth to me every time:  Our attitude IS our reality.

I have not changed my persective, or the way I approach models since the days when I had no studio, no clients, no portfolio.  When I was just a wee lad with a dream, a very wise photographer gave me advice I carry to this day:  Live as if.

Live as if shooting your unorthodox fashion is perfectly normal.  If you act spooked, so will be the model.

I've never done tfp.  I've always tested.  Even when I had no book.