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I'm working with a new model on Saturday, and she wants some sexy photos. It's her first shoot, and I recommended we work on getting her some nice portfolio shots first. We're going to be shooting outdoors along the waterfron in the city park (public places) in the evening during the couple of hours before sunset. Any thoughts on how to break out of my norm and be more creative? Also, how to keep the model feeling relaxed and at ease, and still be able to put in the charm if the time and place permits? Thanks for suggestions and ideas. Jul 12 06 06:42 am Link Francis Moran wrote: Are you trying to photograph her or seduce her??? Jul 12 06 08:02 am Link No, no, no. I understand all that. It's the model that wants the photos to be sexy. She wants sexy photos. This is her idea. Jul 12 06 12:54 pm Link hey, be careful with the outdoors... Jul 12 06 12:59 pm Link FKVPhotoGraphics wrote: LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THIS ALL YOU YOUNGINS! Jul 12 06 12:59 pm Link get some caution tape and sexy schoolgirl outfit. Jul 12 06 01:05 pm Link Jul 12 06 01:26 pm Link No offense taken. Thanks for the advice. My plan, and I told her this - and this is not rocket science - for our first shoot is: let's get some nice portfolio images; some headshots/portraits, three-quarter & full etc., in a few different outfits and poses. That way we get to know each and get comfortable working together. She is totally new, and 20 yrs old. She likes that plan. I'll get a better sense of what she wants and what she means by "sexy photos" by meeting with her in person, and if I would even want to work with her again. She's going to visit the hair & makeup stylist I've used with other models and she'll get some wardrobe ideas from them as well. There are some photogs in my area whose style already encompases nudes, but I haven't met them yet, don't know their reps, and wouldn;t want to steer her in the wrong direction. (yet!) justkidding Jul 12 06 01:39 pm Link Jul 12 06 02:55 pm Link There is big difference between 'sexy' and 'slutty'... Your kitty shot would be really sexy with a slightly dropped chin, eyes looking slightly up to you, and framed much tighter (but leave at least part of the ears in it). What I usually get from a rookie is NOT a sexy look the first time around... it usually comes off looking either bored or pissed. When I say that to them it usually helps loosen things up a bit. Jul 12 06 03:04 pm Link FKVPhotoGraphics wrote: Maybe we're intrepretting things differently but I think it depends. Sometimes it's better to "evoke" the look you want than just saying "now be sexy". It's possible to do that and still be clean a professional. The clinical approach doesn't work for everyone. Jul 12 06 03:11 pm Link Before you start your shoot, tell the model that if you ask or direct her to do anything that feels uncomfortable, that she can tell you and you guys can go in another direction. Models feel comfortable doing things in an atmosphere of trust. Also, first see what poses the model does on her own before you start directing her. Even though she is a newbie, posing sexy might come natural to her. Everyone has an different idea of what sexy is...so as her photographer, you can ask her to define what sexy is, and have her show you images/tearsheets she would like to "re-create". Then you can get more of an idea of what she wants. -YUMYUM Jul 12 06 03:13 pm Link Francis Moran wrote: Collect up a wide variety of clips in a folder of images you think she might be interested in trying. Then use your Windows Print Wizard to print them out 9 to a page. Jul 12 06 04:53 pm Link Here are some more ideas to help you ... Sit down at your keyboard, pour a nice glass of wine or a cool beer, or any favorite beverage, and surf ... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=I … instorming http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& … tnG=Search See if you can look up a guy named Michael Vance and his formerly famous "Five Sensing Techniques" -- in the late 60's and 70's he was the Creative Director for Disneyland. If you can get ahold of his old tape sets, they are fantastic for learning how the ideas flow using storeyboards at the Disney think tanks. Surf around. Go any direction that inspires you. Find your edge and push it. Study classic art, deconstruct what you see and develop your own list of techniques to find your own best style. Go to the bookstore and look at slick expensive ads in racy popular magazines. Analyze and deconstruct. Take notes. Sketch thumbnails. Bring it from the inside out. Take your camera and photograph the ads you like so you can organize your thoughts on your computer. Have fun. Let the good times roll.  From PALINDROMES http://www.pbase.com/click_hamilton/palindromes Jul 12 06 05:07 pm Link Solid post Click! Solid advice. Jul 12 06 05:11 pm Link Wow! This has all been great advice & comments. Thanks Very nice idea to do the print out and let the model circle the images she likes (as opposed to me showing her a bunch of photos and telling her this is what I'd like to do one day). Nice comment from the model's perspective about letting her chime in when she feels anything uncomfortable. And great advice about letting the model just work her own natural magic at first, without any direction from me, see how that goes, and then take it from there. And yes, definately, working with an experienced glamour model is going to be key. Jul 12 06 05:29 pm Link I just got home from dinner, music and carousing, and I'm still thinking about your question. I love the whole process of brainstorming. I surfed a little about those old tapes I mentioned above, and the set I was thinking about is called Creative Thinking by Mike Vance. Not Michael. His technique is called 5-sensing, but it's under the title Creative Thinking. It's 6 tapes that were published in 1987. It's not about photography ... it's about creative thinking to develop ideas. It's what he lead people to do in the creative department at Disney for many years. It works for developing photo theme ideas as well. For example, one example (from my foggy memory many years ago) was that they were making film themes and they wanted to brainstorm Christmas as a theme. The 5-sensing idea is basically to start casting ideas onto the storyboard about how we can smell christmas, hear christmas, feel christmas, etc. ... then how to translate those into images the viewer can feel in all those senses. I thought it was quite nice for thinking of ways to make our photos more multi-dimensional and detailed. Some photographers try to make "three levels" or "five levels" of contrast or ideas or graphic layout working together to guarantee an interesting photo. Add to that the look of smell, or the look of sound, or the look of touch, etc., and the image becomes more powerful. I saw another book at the bookstore once called "Sensual Living" and the author did something similar with photo images for several sensations. Indeed, it was a very sensual book. She made images for touch, feel, etc., and they were more a matter of textures, colors and shapes, but if you apply that process to a beautiful girl who wants to model "sexy" for you, you will have some awesome gallery photos. Let me search it for you now .... Yep, found it: Sensual Living by Claire Lloyd http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/184091 … 09?ie=UTF8 Haha ... "19 new and used, available from $1.05" .. wow! If we could convey the sensual feeling she does in her book photos (It's basically a photo book), and apply it to a woman as our subject ... it would be just great. Food for thought ::: sipping my beloved ice cold Beck's beer as I decompress at 10 minutes before midnight here tonight::: Life is sweet Click Hamilton San Diego www.pbase.com/click_hamilton  From Banana Happy http://www.pbase.com/click_hamilton/bananahappy Jul 13 06 01:43 am Link Gary Davis wrote: I agree.....but the lines are so thin these days and how often have we heard models complain about photographers coming on to them......just saying one needs to be aware and careful..... Jul 13 06 07:47 am Link When I am working with a model for stuff that is suppose be sexy and seductive, I ask them to simply think of the lens (and not the fat bald disgusting looking behind the camera) and seduce it like they would their lover... 98% of the that works... that other 2% they can't get past that big fat guy with the camera..  Jul 13 06 10:44 am Link "I'm working with a new model on Saturday, and she wants some sexy photos. It's her first shoot, and I recommended we work on getting her some nice portfolio shots first." She wants sexy photos and you suggested head shots? I may well be wrong, but I get the impression you are, for whatever reason, not comfrtable doing "sexy shots". If so, that;s no problem, many are not. If that's the case, my first suggestion would be to refer her to someone who is comfortable with that style of shooting. But if you are interested in going in that direction, just take your lead from her. Every woman knows how to be "sexy", so turn her loose and follow her lead. Refine her poses as needed, but don't try to tell her what "sexy" is. Jul 13 06 06:10 pm Link Good point. I do feel somewhat uncomfortable with the situation. She's inexperienced, 20 yrs old, and we haven't met or worked with each other yet. Good advice to just follow her lead and not direct her. Jul 13 06 08:36 pm Link Had the shoot with the 20-yr-old inexperienced model who wanted "sexy photos" yesterday.. a couple of images are posted. Jul 16 06 06:26 am Link Francis Moran wrote: Is that her in your avatar? Jul 16 06 06:34 am Link |
