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Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

I have been wanting to do a cemetery shoot for a while now and found what I thought would be a great location. Went there today to spend some time looking around and just take some pictures of the area. I was there alone with a DSLR just shooting headstones when I was confronted by two very large and angy men who wanted to know what I was up to. I told them I was just taking pictures of headstones but they seemed to have a problem with that and informed me that I was tresspassing. I had no idea it was a private family cemetery, so I just left, I don't like conflict. Does anyone have any experience in securing permission to shoot at a cemetery you can pass on? I want to do this shoot but I don't want to to get into any trouble.

Jul 08 06 11:37 pm Link

Photographer

Earth Wind and Water

Posts: 29

Seattle, Washington, US

I've shot in a few, but my experience is that it is VERY hard to get permission to shoot. 

I've shot w/o permission and when no ones around, staying away from the grave stones.

In Texas there are A LOT of abandon graveyards. 

To answer your question, you have to talk to the management group that administers the location.  Try searching on the web to see who's in charge. 

Best if you have your information in written form with examples of your work when you go in to talk to them.  Pray for the best and expect the worst.

Jul 09 06 12:04 am Link

Photographer

Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

bump

Jul 09 06 09:09 am Link

Photographer

HarveyT

Posts: 491

Sacramento, California, US

The cementary in Sacramento encourages photos because it documents the history of the place.  The city college actually does a yearly photo contest that is of cementary shots (at least when I went there).  I have also shoot at other cementaries in CA and have never encountered problems.  However, the cementaries are usually fairly large and in or around large cities.  One time I was shooting a model, and the guys who were working there came up and started talking with us.  On of them actually creates medeival wardrobes and was trying to recruit the model.
So, don't be discouraged, just move on to the next cementary...

Jul 09 06 09:19 am Link

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HarveyT

Posts: 491

Sacramento, California, US

I meant cemetery.  I just haven't had my coffee yet 8-)

Jul 09 06 09:21 am Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

HarveyT wrote:
The cementary in Sacramento encourages photos because it documents the history of the place.

If only more places had that forward-thinking mentality! Every place that is photographer-unfriendly is losing out on creating a legacy for future generations.

Hats off to the Sacramento cemetary!

Jul 09 06 09:22 am Link

Photographer

Greg Kolack

Posts: 18392

Elmhurst, Illinois, US

I actually shot a nude in a cemetary. We shot at 2:00 a.m. We were just going to run in and do a few quick shots, but ended up shooting for over an hour. It was March, and it actually started to flurry. To say the model was a trouper is an understatement. And I was using a flash - obviously no one saw the flash, which I'm sure you could see from quite a distance.

My guess is, if you ask for permission in a cemetary, you will get turned down. It is probably best to find an old, small, secluded cemetary. Chances are very little anyone would see you. If someone does question, play dumb and say you didn't know permission was needed. As long as you aren't causing any destruction, chances are no one would go thru the hassle of any legalities.

Jul 09 06 10:24 am Link

Photographer

vanWingo

Posts: 177

Lawrenceville, Georgia, US

Bonaventure Cemetary in Savannah, Georgia, is a wonderfully historic location.  It's open to the public, so one encounters grounds keepers and tourists, as well as descendants.  We were respectful of the place and no one seemed to mind our being there.

https://img4.modelmayhem.com/060408/17/44383d932f7af.jpg

Jul 09 06 10:40 am Link

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Done and Gone

Posts: 7650

Chiredzi, Masvingo, Zimbabwe

Don't ask for permission, you won't get it. I have done 3 shoots in the cemetary, 2 of these were nude shoots. Do a scouting run to try and figure out how them fellers spotted you then avoid them. Dress in black and take flowers. If you are alert and don't have too much camera gear you may pass as mourners. Early in the morning is a good bet, although I did have a nude model climb up a monument and pose!! She said she could see all the cars on the road from there.

Jul 09 06 12:46 pm Link

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Greg Kolack

Posts: 18392

Elmhurst, Illinois, US

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … ad6638f691

This is one of the photos I shot I mentioned in my earlier post/

Jul 09 06 02:29 pm Link

Model

Cynthia Leigh

Posts: 799

Orlando, Florida, US

The major cemetaries in New Orleans are soo used to tourists, that when I went there 2 yrs ago to shoot on Halloween with a photographer, we had to move away from one crypt because there was a walking tour coming through.

Other than the grounds keepers circling around in a car (probably staring at the vinyl bodysuit I had on), we weren't told to leave or anything.

Jul 12 06 02:36 am Link

Model

Manda Mercure

Posts: 506

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

it's cemetEry, please.


i've shot in several cemeteries, usually just for fun with friends. never had a problem.

Jul 12 06 08:16 am Link

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Analog Nomad

Posts: 4097

Pattaya, Central, Thailand

Tim Little Photography wrote:
I have been wanting to do a cemetery shoot for a while now and found what I thought would be a great location. Went there today to spend some time looking around and just take some pictures of the area. I was there alone with a DSLR just shooting headstones when I was confronted by two very large and angy men who wanted to know what I was up to. I told them I was just taking pictures of headstones but they seemed to have a problem with that and informed me that I was tresspassing. I had no idea it was a private family cemetery, so I just left, I don't like conflict. Does anyone have any experience in securing permission to shoot at a cemetery you can pass on? I want to do this shoot but I don't want to to get into any trouble.

For me personally, this would fall under the "better to ask forgiveness than permission rule." Technically wrong, yes, but it reminds me of the following quote:

"Do not be too moral. You may cheat yourself out of much life so. Aim above morality. Be not simply good; be good for something."
Henry David Thoreau

I think this applies pretty well here. . .

Regards,
Paul

Jul 12 06 08:22 am Link

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Fotographia Fantastique

Posts: 17339

White River Junction, Vermont, US

It all depends on the graveyard. I do a lot of photography at Spring Grove Cemetery (the second largest cemetery in the U.S.). No special permission is required there - in fact they welcome photographers. The last few times I've been there, I have run into other photographers there. Last time, in fact there was a guy setting up an large old fashioned medium format camera on a tripod in the road. Groundskeepers will even wave to you when they drive by.

Jul 12 06 08:32 am Link

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Carpe Imago Photography

Posts: 1757

Dousman, Wisconsin, US

Michael Longeneker wrote:
Don't ask for permission, you won't get it. I have done 3 shoots in the cemetary, 2 of these were nude shoots. Do a scouting run to try and figure out how them fellers spotted you then avoid them. Dress in black and take flowers. If you are alert and don't have too much camera gear you may pass as mourners. Early in the morning is a good bet, although I did have a nude model climb up a monument and pose!! She said she could see all the cars on the road from there.

Hmmmm...this strikes me as wrong in a few ways.  I don't mean to be critical Michael, but this seems quite unprofessional.

First.."don't ask for permission."  It's this type of attitude that makes it hard on those of us that try to do things the right way.  If you ask and they turn you down, well that's their right and you're trespassing.  If they just sort of "borrowed" your images to run in their ads, that wouldn't really be like stealing, would it?

Second, "I did have a nude model climb up a monument and pose!!"  Gee, why won't they let photographers in?  Maybe it's because they've got people coming in (without permission) and acting in a manner that is completely disrepectful.  Again, it's their property and you don't have the right to come in and act in any manner that you choose just because you're a photographer. 

Asking for permission is always a good idea (so that you don't get ticketed for trespassing), and common decency dictates that you utilize a shred of respect for the spirit of the place.  If you show the administrator your work, explain your project, and they don't believe that it's appropriate just move along to the next cemetery or find a different project to work on.

Jul 12 06 08:44 am Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 13020

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

My Studio sits in a small (1+ acre) cemetery,
https://www.chrismacan.com/lj/front1-s.jpg
Cool little graveyard,
Most of the stones were placed between 1835 and 1910,
I'm on good terms with the owners,
so in theory I just need to walk out the side door and start shooting,
But I never have,
The graveyard with models thing just does not really appeal to me that much.

Jul 12 06 09:55 am Link

Photographer

ward

Posts: 6142

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

If it's a cemetary, and it's not locked at the gate, who you gonna bother ? Just do it !... smile

Jul 12 06 09:56 am Link

Photographer

lightsandshadow

Posts: 2200

New York, New York, US

I think older historic cemeteries are ok.  European ones are great.  No one says anything.  Here in the states I've had someone question me when I went to take photos of my grandmothers headstone.  The said that was ok since I was a relative but otherwise, they didn't like photographers showing the names on the headstones or tombs.

Jul 12 06 10:06 am Link

Photographer

Analog Nomad

Posts: 4097

Pattaya, Central, Thailand

Carpe Imago Photography wrote:
Hmmmm...this strikes me as wrong in a few ways.  I don't mean to be critical Michael, but this seems quite unprofessional.

First.."don't ask for permission."  It's this type of attitude that makes it hard on those of us that try to do things the right way.  If you ask and they turn you down, well that's their right and you're trespassing.  If they just sort of "borrowed" your images to run in their ads, that wouldn't really be like stealing, would it?

Second, "I did have a nude model climb up a monument and pose!!"  Gee, why won't they let photographers in?  Maybe it's because they've got people coming in (without permission) and acting in a manner that is completely disrepectful.  Again, it's their property and you don't have the right to come in and act in any manner that you choose just because you're a photographer. 

Asking for permission is always a good idea (so that you don't get ticketed for trespassing), and common decency dictates that you utilize a shred of respect for the spirit of the place.  If you show the administrator your work, explain your project, and they don't believe that it's appropriate just move along to the next cemetery or find a different project to work on.

So I take it that you would consider the work of Henri Cartier Bresson, who almost never asked permission before or after shooting pretty much anybody or anywhere, to be "unprofessional," "completely disrespectful," lacking in "common decency," and "stealing?" Just IMAGINE the damage that HCB did to the rest of us photographers with his life's disrepectful work. The SHAME!

Paul

Jul 12 06 10:18 am Link