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Horror story about a TFP shoot!
Post your horror stories about TFP shoots here. This is good for the NEWBIES to read! Hence the reason I am VERY SELECTIVE on TFP. Over the years I have shot some TFP, especially when I was getting started. I am very open and up front, never have a problem with a model bringing an escort. All in all, very easy going and fun to work with. This biggest problem I have run into is no shows, late and girls that look nothing like the photo I saw of them. After getting totally discouraged, I just said F**K it and stopped shooting TFP. I haven't shot TFP in over 3 years now and have done very good ever since. It's pretty amazing how many people are willing to pay you if you just charge them a fair price. Once one person finds out that you shoot TFP everyone wants it FREE. Not that I'm a money grubbing hound but I make a living as a photographer and it's pretty hard to keep Top Ramen on the table when you work free. Have fun and keep up the AWESOME WORK MMer's Comments are always welcome in my port! Thanks JDS Jul 02 06 12:22 pm Link Why is it valuable to share horror stories? These are generally the exceptions.. And while caution is nice, the fact that EVERYONE likes to share them makes them sound like the rule.. Blow me away.. Someone share a positive story about TFP... (Sorry, OP.. Not ripping on you.. Just a general trend of MM that gets stale after a while..) Jul 02 06 12:25 pm Link WG Rowland wrote: I couldn't agree more! Jul 02 06 12:27 pm Link Pretty much all of my TFP shoots have been positive - in fact, with one exception, I would say that all of the best shots in my port right now were from TFP shoots. (I was paid for "Nude with Parasol.") There's only one I regret, and it's because the photos were bad and therefore my time was wasted, not because anything bad actually happened. Jul 02 06 12:29 pm Link Catriona wrote: That's awesome! great port by the way! Jul 02 06 12:31 pm Link Photos By JDS wrote: Hey....I like money grubbing hounds......WOOF, WOOF...welcome to the pack! Jul 02 06 12:34 pm Link Catriona wrote: Oh man! I saw your name on this thread and I thought I was going to get called out! Whew... Jul 02 06 12:35 pm Link FKVPhotoGraphics wrote: Thank you! Jul 02 06 12:37 pm Link Aside from the flakes, no real horror stories Jul 02 06 12:37 pm Link McMadCow wrote: Yep - you were the bad one! NOT! Jul 02 06 12:38 pm Link I think the worst TFP experience I've ever had was the model not showing up. Other than that they've all been wonderful. Jul 02 06 12:42 pm Link Worst TFP experience I ever had was a ditzy escort who also wanted to model, and ruined a couple shots that would have been.. okay. So not really bad. Jul 02 06 12:48 pm Link I think all agreements have both a negative and positive side. The person who does not see both, is looking at the world through a certain type of glasses (whether it be pessimistic or optimistic). TFP/TFCD/Creatives Negatives: - sometimes people do not send you the pictures - many times you were hoping for something better - may meet the occassional GWC - the payment is not in a currency that you can give your landlord, cable guy, ect. - there is a chance you will get typecasted as a TFP model only - many contracts allow much more rights to the photographer than anyone else involved TFP/TFCD/Creatives Postives: - you can try out a new look, style, idea, ect without doing it on a paying clients time - allows rooms for creative expression and a discovery of your hidden talents or desires - you can save the $$$ you need to give to you bills and pay with your time instead - an excellent way to add new images to your portfolio, since many times paying shoots do not give you any rights (as a model), that is if you even get the pleasure of seeing the images afterwards BUT It is a double edged sword, paying work is in the same boat. Paying Work Negatives: - shut up, do your job and get the shot! There is no time for creative ideas on the models and the photographers parts, what the client wants, you must give (there are exceptions of course, if you have an idea that really works with what they want) - there is always a comprimise in paying work, everyone is there for the money, not for the desire to create something beyond fantastic - paying work seems to lead to laziness, people don't push themselves as hard when they are already garenteed a payout, instead of the payout being based only on their performance Paying Work Postives: - $$$$$$$$$ (as that is why people do paying work) - could lead to future paying work with the same people or people they refer to you - you images are more likely to be used in a way that they general population will seee them, giving you more exposure Hmmm, I could think of more, but there are so many on both sides for both issues. By saying only the negatives, you are going to end up scaring models out of things. Jul 02 06 12:50 pm Link Monika Maple wrote: Well said thank you! Jul 02 06 12:54 pm Link The last 3 TFP shoots I did were AWSOME!! MM members all of them!! Gail # 23558 Jennifer #120880 Aqua Girl # 155701 All were on time, totally professional and worked tirelessly for hours to get the shots we needed. I've still had a couple of cancellations in-between but with enough notice to reschedule. I must be on a hot streak...hope it keeps going!! Jul 02 06 12:55 pm Link Photos By JDS wrote: Your portfolio says: TFP is on a very limited basis. Jul 02 06 12:57 pm Link I think that having a good looking assistant can cover all of the ground of a good tfp. She not only is available when you need her, but her cute girlfiriends are also willing to help out on occasion. I dont really see the value of always having to do tpf;s...... Jul 02 06 12:57 pm Link Just for the record, I have never had anything but bliss on TFP and TFCD shoots, and I do a lot of them. Jul 02 06 12:57 pm Link Fotosbymike wrote: Your on a roll Jul 02 06 12:58 pm Link So far all of the shoots that I've done have been TFCD/TFP and all but one went wonderfully. Jul 02 06 01:03 pm Link My TFP problems have been all leading up the shoot, such as dealing with interested models who then evaporate, models who contact me then stop answering emails and calls, no shows. But for the actual shoots, I've never really had a problem. Of course, some are better than others. I've had a couple of models who really had no personality and I had to give every little detail of direction to, but of the ones I have actually shot - no divas, all show up pretty much on time, don't back out of any idea they originally agreed to do, etc. And I have ended up working some amazing models, who I am sure will be working pros some day very soon, and I will be proud to have worked with them early on. Jul 02 06 03:17 pm Link Catriona wrote: If you got paid for the work, then it doesn't matter how the pictures turn out. At least that is the way that I view it, and I have found that it works for me. Jul 03 06 09:17 am Link Well, I'd love to share, but I have nothing bad to say. All of my experiences have been pretty good. I guess there was one time, where I was meeting a photographer for the first time and I told him I was going to bring someone. At first he said it was cool. Then when it got closer to the date, he acted super wierd about it and thought it was my boyfriend. He said there were no boyfriends allowed. (Which, I could understand that if he were my b.f. but he wasn't.) Well long story short, I didn't go. He said he was going to put me in playboys milf magazine. Turned out he wasn't even who he said he was. Girls, do your research! Be smart and have a good time. Jul 03 06 09:28 am Link I don't have any horror stories. The models I shoot with are prompt, professional, and a pleasure to work with. I'm not sure what valuable insight is to be gained by promoting more negativity. Jul 03 06 10:07 am Link ditto for me, I've never had problems with TFP. Sometimes a model flakes out but then again, I've always got stuff to do around the studio anyways so if they show up, great .. if not then no biggy. Jul 03 06 10:11 am Link I think all the possible horror stories have been done to death here. TFP has an inherent risk of cancellations and no shows. I find it a useful tool to work with models on a collaborative basis to shoot my concepts and ideas. As I've been shooting models less than a year, I'm, always looking to improve my technical and creative sides. TFP has always been a useful tool in that regard. I have had some interesting stories involving escorts.... boyfriend escorts to be precise... but nothing that would even come close to a horror story. Jul 03 06 10:17 am Link the last TFP offer i ever made two and a half years ago..... i went to the bathroom and this chick decides to look at the digital images on my camera's LCD..she mis-judges the weight of a D1X and 28-70 F/2.8 AFS lens.. it rolls out her hands and hits a concrete floor, breaking the lens and smashing the the flash mount and cracking the viewfinder casing.. all together she did $1250.00 worth of damage while i was in the bathroom... i have never again offered anyone TFP... Jul 03 06 10:23 am Link |
Nice port by the way 
