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Under age Implieds!!
I just saw a picture that was quickly taken down after a complaint to the model on another site that made me ill!! This model, female, 17 had a topless, back to the camera shot up and she didnt think it was an implied. Now I know there are some of you that wont see anything wrong with this, You'll make yourself known as you comment to my rant. But as it is, it is illeagal and rightfully so! It is wrong and discusting. I can not believe that there would be a photographer that would do such a thing and makes me just sick!! So what was the female models comment? Oh I'll be 18 in 14 days and I'll just put it up then. IT WONT MATTER!!! IT WAS STILL TAKEN AS A MINOR!!! So where will it stop? implieds with 16? 15? Is this where our profession is heading??? Go ahead, make yourself known. I just dare someone to comment saying this action is ok, artistic and I'm making too much out of nothing. Jun 26 06 07:22 pm Link That is not news! 16 and 17 year old shoot topless all the time in the fashion industry. Why are you so socked? Jun 26 06 07:24 pm Link It's not illegal, but it isn't something we allow on this site because so many people mistakenly assume it's illegal and throw a big, hairy fit and we're too lazy to deal with your big, hairy fits. theda, MM MOD And yes, this action is okay, artistic and you're making too big a deal out of it. Frankly, it's tiring reading all these woefully misinformed rants on underaged not-quite nudity. Jun 26 06 07:24 pm Link theda wrote: Oregon statute makes it illegal in this state. So yes, if the model is from here and she is doing it, it is Jun 26 06 07:26 pm Link TMShots Photo wrote: Please cite that statute. I very seriously doubt that is the case. Jun 26 06 07:27 pm Link TMShots Photo wrote: Sure it's OK, what are some kind of prude. I bet you go to church and eat from clean plates. Did you brush your teeth this morning? What about your underwear, you never know if you're going to wind up in the emergency room and you need clean underwear or you might get laughed at. Did you use Tide or those funny little blue spuds that look like giant aspirin. What ever happened to those any how? Used to see them on grocery store shelves all over the country, but like everything seems to change when you least expect it to. Jun 26 06 07:28 pm Link TMShots Photo wrote: Methinks...doth protest loudly....almost too loudly!.....I've seen more revealing minors on TV.....a back!!!.....next is a leg, a foot, a barehand....yes, you're right where does it stop!! Jun 26 06 07:37 pm Link TMShots Photo wrote: It is not illegal, it is ok it is artistic and you're making much too big a deal about nothing. Jun 26 06 07:39 pm Link theda wrote: I smell a run in with TX over this one, sharpen your pecils everyone. Jun 26 06 07:42 pm Link I agree with Giuliana. don't be so shocked to know that it happens all over. It seems to be it be best you stay in the confines of your state so it makes life easier for everyone else. This country is somewhat hypocritical when it comes to these things especially when it comes to underage drinking and what have you. It would be great if people would spend their energy on those things that really hampers today's youth as opposed to someone who is just modeling. My point is, don't bark before you bite. Find out what is right and wrong in your own backyard before attacking someone when you have no clue of their lifestyle. Jun 26 06 07:42 pm Link Gilbert Echeverria wrote: What did you say? Jun 26 06 07:43 pm Link Bob in simple terms mind your own business and move on. get it ! Jun 26 06 07:46 pm Link TMShots Photo wrote: Everyone with any knowledge of the statutes would say it's legal. And when she does turn 18, she can repost the photos and they will be even more legal Jun 26 06 07:48 pm Link TMShots Photo wrote: Have you looked at any fashion magazines lately? Most of those models are underage and do implied nudity all the time. Besides, it was just her back, if you photoshopped out the strings of a bikini top, you would have the same thing. Jun 26 06 07:51 pm Link Just curious. If the legal age were 16, would you shoot it then? Would it still be "sick"? Or have you just been groomed to accept 18 as the cut-off? Jun 26 06 07:53 pm Link Nude, or implied nude, neither are illegal regardless of age. I see no problem with this type of shot. Jun 26 06 07:57 pm Link OP - Next time you fly, help yourself to that little bag in the seat pocket in front of you. You'll feel better and tend not to annoy any of us who think otherwise. bt Jun 26 06 07:57 pm Link theda wrote: Hey, I'm from Oregon, and have never heard of this activity being 'illegal'. Jun 26 06 07:59 pm Link TMShots Photo wrote: It's NOT illegal for a 17 year old to do an implied. Being "disgusted" by it is only an opinion. Jun 26 06 08:06 pm Link theda wrote: Now that you've said this, you'll never hear from him again.... Jun 26 06 08:07 pm Link does anyone remember Jessica Biels picture spread when she was 17 ? Jun 26 06 08:12 pm Link Um...that same model has a photo with clear erect nipples in her port. Which was is more explicit? I don't think there was anything wrong with the one that was removed. Granted, I would not have taken it, just because I don't need the hassle of proving my innocence, but most fashion mags are far more revealing. Jun 26 06 08:14 pm Link Models should only be photographed if wearing long pants and turtlenecks, and should all be over 25. Jun 26 06 08:15 pm Link There are greater pornographic things happening in our (and your) own backyard...Homelessness, poverty, abandonment of our seniors, Enron, etc., etc. We all know what the 'etc.' are. A young woman with a bare back is the LEAST obscene thing I can think of. Just for the record...the biggest sexual organ in a human being is their brain. If you equate what you posted with obscenity then I think you'd be one to find pornography everywhere. Jun 26 06 08:16 pm Link Vito wrote: What he said ! Jun 26 06 08:20 pm Link Cyberhawk Studios wrote: Um...how do you know what model it is? He never said it here. Jun 26 06 08:20 pm Link NC-17...how funny. They can view all the sexual activity and gore...the films can throw at us... but artistic is dirty Jun 26 06 08:20 pm Link John Jebbia wrote: What he said also... Jun 26 06 08:22 pm Link Bob Randall Photography wrote: No, I've been down that road already, and I know where it leads. Some ignorant person comes on the forum with a holier-than-thou rant, claims something that is perfectly legal is not, and is challenged to prove it. Jun 26 06 08:24 pm Link Come to Finland! We are all together naked here from the age 0 all the way up to 120 years! Well, at least when in Sauna... ![]() But seriously... as said here earlier... doing porn is illegal under 18. Nudity isn't porn! Everyone, everywhere does it! (Well, except in those countries, in where women can't even show their bare legs or bare arms outside their homes. I hope we are not in there yet? Nope, we aren't.) Jun 26 06 08:25 pm Link TMShots Photo wrote: Is it just me....or has MM been invaded by do-gooders trying to save the world lately? Jun 26 06 08:39 pm Link Well I for one saw the image. She simply had her back to the camera with her bikini bottoms on and her bikini top presumeably removed. Nothing was even close to showing anywhere. Had she tied a string around her rib cage, with the bow at the back you would not have even known any different. For all we know, the bikini top was still on as her hair was covering any potential neck strap. Her back string could simply have been moved to the front, similar to countless sunbathers on the beach. For what it is worth, she has some other very nice images in her portfolio and her whole collection shows a very good balance. Jun 26 06 08:50 pm Link How sad! I veiwed this same image and have been chatting with the model in question for several years. Disgusting? you bet it is! Its disgusting that a young woman who has been hard at work on her chosen career for a good portion of her life already, someone who takes pride in the hard work she obviously puts into her shoots to be subjected to such redicule! That shot was tastefull, beautifully done and something that she posted non doudt because she was proud of it. The photographer did a wonderful job on the image, the model, i'm looking forward to shooting myself in just a few months and i hope to be able to create work with her just as good! In case the model in question reads this, worry not, you're a well liked and respected person in this little community of ours! If some huge sin was committed on your part, then i'm offering myself to burn in hell forever in your place, LOL! Best of luck to ya and dont forget, there be freid oysters waiting for you! Jun 26 06 09:31 pm Link Right now OMP has a minor with a bad picture. The way it is being handled it really looks like a sting between law enforcement and OMP. It may not be. It may be. If it is good. Too many pervs taking advantage of minors. If it is not then child protective services should be called. In this day and age everyone should be cautious of posting images of minor that are on the line. Release or parents are no safety guard. -Beebe Jun 26 06 11:40 pm Link Makes me think a few years back when Brooke Shields was just a mere pre teen and how she starred in "The Blue Lagoon " and "Pretty Baby" for all the USA and ...GULP, world to see! Acting in semi nude scenes and being portrayed in a house of ill repute! It blew over. Made her more of star and most people have forgotten about it ! I'm having another glass of wine! Is there something else more interesting and pertinent to talk about? Jun 26 06 11:48 pm Link The defination of "implied" is emotionally loaded. I've had people snort down their nose at me with some lame excuse like "yeah, but she was nude in the photo, even if you can't see anything, so that's nude. I personally think it's not proper or in good taste to shoot children in sexy or suggestive poses. But hey, that's just me. People become mature and emancipated adults at various ages. It's more a matter of emotional and character maturity than anything. Legal is only for legal. Legal does not fit too close with what's right or wrong. For most people, adulthood happens around 20, sometimes earlier, and sometimes later. Some people never mature. Some people are mature at any age. Most people start having sex when they are 15 or 16 now. So what? I personally find busybodies who rant and poke their nose into other peoples personal affairs to be offensive. So what? If someone pokes their nose too far over MY fence, I'll cut it off. Jun 27 06 12:39 am Link Wasn't Thora Birch 17 in 'American Beauty?' Jun 27 06 01:11 am Link DAntony wrote: Bad example. She had a body double. Jun 27 06 01:25 am Link Christopher Ambler wrote: Milla Jovovich didn't use a body double in the sequel. She was 15 when filming began. Jun 27 06 01:32 am Link everybodys talkin all this stuff about me..why cant they let me live? thats my prerogative...hehe Jun 27 06 01:38 am Link |