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I have received a couple of comments on some of the pics I have taken recently that they are in bad taste. My feelings on this is that every picture that is taken is art in the photographers eye. Everyone has there own style of shooting. Can I get some imput on fetish and horror pictures for portfollio use. Jun 22 06 06:03 am Link Okay, this seems like an easy one. What's the point of your portfolio? To get work? If you're getting negative feedback from potential clients, then your portfolio is obviously on the wrong track. Art for art's sake, beauty in the eye of the beholder? If you're just doing this for yourself, that's fine, but that makes it more of an online gallery or showcase rather than a portfolio. Abels Images wrote: Jun 22 06 06:20 am Link no this was just another photog, the models I have been working with love this style of shoot as do I. Jun 22 06 06:22 am Link Abels Images wrote: And the first finger painting a child does is art to their parents. But it will never be in MoMA. Jun 22 06 06:35 am Link Abels Images wrote: It depends on who you are and why you are doing what you are doing. Horror images aren't for everybody -- no matter how well-executed they are, a certain percentage of the population will tell you they are awful and in bad taste. Jun 22 06 06:46 am Link Coming from a fetish-goth model (however you want to label it)..... I would never do "blood" shoots", unless it will look real. People are drawn in to photos that a realistic... I think you had the right idea, these photos themselves are nice. I would just use a differant approach at making them look more realistic. Jun 22 06 07:01 am Link If you're looking for fashion work....wayy off track....if it's art...heading there....if it's for you own satisfaction....I guess you're there, I think......but you may be get slot in specialing in "sick models"....check my thread in non-tradional models.... Jun 22 06 07:06 am Link Yip, its not everybodies cup of tea... but as an art I would agree it has some merit, a very niche market... and in my eyes... thats a good thing. Jun 22 06 07:07 am Link I love it. My main problem is finding photographers who aren't squeamish in my area. Jun 22 06 10:16 am Link If it's of any coldolance the majorty of MM doesn't understand the whole concept of horror or fetish shooting,most of them don't even know what a Alt Model is.You can ask almost any Alt model on here and they will tell you the same thing,they get negative comments from people who have no clue what is going on,or what you are trying to do. It's one thing if somebody say critiques your way of shooting like say your lighting or composition of the shot.Sometimes that can be really helpful if you are just starting out and are looking for tips. But if you post a shot of say a bloody model and all they can say is "ewww that's gross",and you attempt to tell them that is what you were going of,it normally just confuses and upsets them.Kinda like if you hand a algebra book to a monkey,they don't "get" it so they just sheik at it no matter how much you try and explain it to them. Jun 22 06 10:24 am Link Blood doth not horror make. Spraying blood over a model wont make them look like a goth horror shot. It will make them look like some girl in fake blood amond the army of others in fake blood. Horror is something that should make you stop, shock you, make you think. Spraying blood over a model does none of this, it just looks crappy, and cheap and so, so, over done. To look good, gore needs very well executed SFX, which comes mostly from excellent make up. Jun 22 06 11:15 am Link I don't understand goth. I suspect that it could be a reaction to glamour much in the same way as punk was a reaction to overmelodic rock and roll that featured long guitar solos. Personally since I admire beauty I don't understand this tendency in goth to make the attractive unattractive. But my opinion is based on pure ignorance. Every year I take a halloween cover for a local arts magazine. In the example shown here it was to illustrate an article on small independent film companies that specialized in horror.  Jun 22 06 11:24 am Link Fetish & Horror (In my opinion) are not in bad taste. Its all about how your doing & the concept of it. I am very into the fetish & blood thing so its all good to me. The only problem I have with some of the images in your protfiolo is the well...the tacky way the blood is poured on the model. Its one thing to have a model that looks like she's bleeding, but if you have her just coverd in some fake blood? Where's the body that the blood came from is what I ask myself. Did she sever a limb or bite a neck? Your in the right drection, and what your doing is not "In bad taste" to the alternitive world. Its just you need to work on concept a bit. Jun 22 06 11:31 am Link  in bad taste. who cares? (smirk) Jun 22 06 11:38 am Link ...Stacy wrote: Stacy I live in Canada and having been educated in Texas I have soft spot for the US and many things American. But I do believe that we here in Canada have "progressed" a bit in not showing people and specially women in such poses as this one that you show. I believe that some misguided young people get to see these pictures and then they get this longing to replicate it in real life. Perhaps this is why they may go into schools and shoot people. There is so much violence in American films, in American news (all in living colour) and I cannot understand why the bulk of computer games involves getting rid of people with violent means. Jun 22 06 12:29 pm Link If thatâs the genre that you'd like to be in, then itâs perfect. I am a huge fan of this style, but itâs hard for me to find photographers, that arenât scared away from it. ^v^ Jun 22 06 12:46 pm Link alexwh wrote: Oh good< i finally made it into the porn industry. I was trying so hard!!! Jun 22 06 12:52 pm Link Horror is not for everyone. I personally love it. But I have rules to my images. IOne is to never show the woman as a victim. It is done too often and I find it a "cheap" way out. Most men find strong women scary. Especially if they have just castrated thier best friend. LOL!!!!!!!! Art is all subjective. One man's art is another man's trash. Go with your guts and your opinions, not other peoples'. Get influence and people's perspectives from artist's you admire. They should be able to look at an image subjectively and give you a good critique. Personally I come from 2 schools of thought. You either have an image that communicates a message o you have cool looking picture. One has depth, the other surface. If you are doing art then you need to communicate your ideas effectively. Such as having more real looking blood ( as per a reall splatter pattern fro the weapon) or go more theatrical and fake ( show elelemnts that elude to the more fake aspect of the blood). Either way you have to push at one end or the other. Just another 2 cents. -S Jun 22 06 12:59 pm Link Jun 22 06 01:04 pm Link I have a lot of fun with Horror & know much about the genre. I haven't had any bad remarks yet on what I have done, even if I do at least someone is talking about what me & the crew I work on stuff with are doing which says a lot. However, I understand that some people just don't get it & never will. Good luck with your projects, I know I have plenty more in my head & I hope to make them reality soon. Also we must not forget that people have been violent way before TV, movies and major media was ever around. Jun 22 06 01:05 pm Link Abels Images wrote: Is my avatar in bad taste? Art is meant to disturb at times... Jun 22 06 01:40 pm Link You can please some of the people all of the time.... You can please all of the people some of the time..... But you still can't kill everyone that isn't pleased by you. Unfortunately. Jun 22 06 03:36 pm Link Abels Images wrote: The images that got me into photography (mainly Bourdin) are the ones that influenced most of my portfolio. I really don't use alot of blood since (for me anyway) it takes away from my particular "tragic beauty" theme. Recently I'm starting to get away from the genre but still I stand behind my portfolio. In alot of cases it was a model's idea for a pose or scenario ("I'm glad to do a shoot where I don't have to smile," one model told me.) Jun 22 06 05:29 pm Link Apfel Photography wrote: Kudos. Jun 22 06 09:16 pm Link |
