Photographer
Tog
Posts: 55204
Birmingham, Alabama, US
Jaedyn wrote:
Can I just say to the idiot who mentioned my comment *we only bite if you want us to*... you are in the US.. and alot of people over there do not understand one liners and such from the UK.
Over here, that comment would have been seen as a joke - any idiot would see that. But if you are suggesting that a simple comment like that, opens up the door for any sick pervert to suggest I am willing to accept payment for someone shooting their load on me.. then you really are a wonder! What's so odd about the fact that when you take a local joke and put it out in a space that literally spans the globe that someone might take it the wrong way? I'm pretty sure there are some hysterical Japanese jokes I'm just not going to get.. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be put out there.. But you've got to be prepared for people NOT TO GET IT! You've also got to be prepared for double meanings.. xXx = kisses.. xoxo = kisses and hugs... XXX = a porn rating..
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Mandie
Posts: 348
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US
First of all, to the OP.... The way you've changed your bio, in my opinion, is kind of childish.
Second, I think I agree with Click and WG and such... While it might be disturbing to receive such filth in your inbox, it's really not the world's biggest deal. I could see you being upset had you gone to a shoot with say, a fashion/casual wardobe planned, and out of nowhere the photographer wants to do things to your feet for personal use, or holds you down and lets go on your tootsies... But that's not the case.
Also, I don't really see your point on us American's not understanding that your biting comment was a joke. Of course we know it is a joke. But it is certainly a sexually charged and flirtatious joke. Or a cannibalistic one, I guess.
I will end this post with a poignant quote from Dave Chappelle's standup...
"You may not be a whore, but you're wearing a whore's uniform... And that shit's confusing!"
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Mike Cummings
Posts: 5896
LAKE COMO, Florida, US
You can't paint yourself as a "goodtime girl" and expect to be treated like lady. Poledance = whore in a lot of people's mind. Do I think the perv was right in what he did, no of course not but it was to be expected.
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Mike Cummings
Posts: 5896
LAKE COMO, Florida, US
One more thing, take that silly crap you have up for your bio down. Makes you look like a childish bitch, and nobody wants to work with that. Just make your bio honest but don't include any sexual or flit talk. It may sound cute but it will give the wrong impression.
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Al of Avalon
Posts: 413
San Antonio, Texas, US
Man I hate when they do that!
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Jaedyn
Posts: 56
York, England, United Kingdom
My final note on this post and to this site before I leave..
People shouldnt judge someone by their job.
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Tom Sullivan
Posts: 210
Only the Americans and weirdos will be left soon...
Photographer
Vivus Hussein Denuo
Posts: 64211
New York, New York, US
Jaedyn wrote:
I asked for it?? And I am fishing for it??? LMAO.. You are so wrong fella it makes me laugh.
Spearmint Rhino in the US may be fulla hookers.. but in the UK, the men cannot touch you, even when you give them a private dance they have to sit on their hands and there is also a bouncer present. You are also not allowed to take mens phone numbers, and the bouncers will make sure you get home safely (ie/ walk you to your car, order you a taxi and wait with you til it comes, or take you to the station and wait with you for your train).
I really dont see how I can anyway be seen as 'fishing for it' or anything similar. I dont have any porn like images on my port, or have ever advertised as a porn model.
Yes I do poledancing. And its shown on my site as in the UK, poledancers are used for runway shows, promotional shows, etc. NOT AS HOOKERS. You give private dances? And you do poledancing? In the USA, to the religious right, you're already a whore. No insult intended. 
Edit: I just read Mike's post above. Sorry, mine is somewhat of a duplication.
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Vivus Hussein Denuo
Posts: 64211
New York, New York, US
Tom Sullivan wrote:
Only the Americans and weirdos will be left soon... That's redundant.
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Sirensong
Posts: 2173
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
Tom Sullivan wrote:
Only the Americans and weirdos will be left soon... lmao..
harsh!
Oh and to the OP.
The guy has a foot fetish...it happens.
We all have our little kinks in one shape or form.
You have a sexually provocative job and he chanced his arm on you perhaps saying yes.
Was it because of your job? Possibly.. but I expect he mailed a few more girls with the same proposition who dont work in what is in reality the lesser end of the sex industry.
A simple thanks but no thanks would suffice and just dont reply to him thereafter or block his mails.
The way you have changed your ports write up isnt going to do you ANY favours workwise and I would reconsider that action pretty quickly as it smacks of a tantruming child.
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Al of Avalon
Posts: 413
San Antonio, Texas, US
Hey! I resemble that remark!!!
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Lens N Light
Posts: 16341
Bradford, Vermont, US
What do Americans have to do with this tjhread (except comment of course)? The Photographer is from London and the OP is from North Yorkshire.
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MMDesign
Posts: 18647
Louisville, Kentucky, US
I just read your bio.
*Casting for Nuts Mag (uk mag) (2005)
I'm sorry, that's just too funny to leave lying there.
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hallopino
Posts: 666
Palatine, Illinois, US
Was gonna mention that as a photographer, that even I get filth in my inbox.
I got women, offering to be naked, and sending pictures, when it's something that I clearly don't shoot.
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Benjamen McGuire
Posts: 3991
Portland, Oregon, US
Well you rub your naked ass on guys laps for a living so I don't think it was out of line for him to politely ask if you were interested in that but him trying to pass it off as a legitimate photo shoot and that he wants to use his penis because he can't afford a male model? THAT is where I get offended. His attempt at being deceptive and contacting a model as a 'photographer' and pretending his request is something it's not is creepy/pervy.
btw, when I saw the xXx I thought of the Vin Diesel movie, not porn or kisses.
=edit= I'm assuming you were contacted through your website or personal email, if you were contacted through MM or a similar website specific to modeling/photography then I think it was grossly inapropriate to even ask.
Photographer
Emeritus
Posts: 22000
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Jaedyn wrote:
Mucky Ol' Men.. Not to derail a perfectly good rant, but is there a reason why you specified old?
Geriatric Pride, Baby!
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Jay Bowman
Posts: 6511
Los Angeles, California, US
Okay, let me see if I get this straight...
A "photographer" has an idea in mind. He sees the profile of a "model" who he thinks would fit the project. He contacts her politely, giving her a description of the gig without threats etc and completely leaves the door open for her to politely decline, accept or not respond at all... did I get that right?
The nature of the email is just a detail. He seemed straightforward and polite. While you were not okay with the terms, surely there are women who would be.
Not that I ::ahem:: have even seen photos like them on the net or anything. Just, you know, speaking hypothetically...
Delete it and continue...
Photographer
Click Hamilton
Posts: 36555
San Diego, California, US
Jaedyn wrote:
Can I just say to the idiot who mentioned my comment *we only bite if you want us to*... you are in the US.. and alot of people over there do not understand one liners and such from the UK. That would be me, Click Hamilton, at your service.
English are certainly at least as smart and witty and dry in their humor as anyone else.
Jaedyn wrote:
If I go for a drink with a man, as friends, and it even being stated that we're just friends, does that give him the right to demand sex and forcefully put that demand into action?? NO it doesnt.. but it happens. So what does this have to do with anything? It's not part of your opening rant or anything else that's transpired here. It's a brand new rant, on a new tangent.
The guy who drew your ire sent you a proposition, and he signed it politely. I don't see any malice it at all. If he knew you were going to reject him, he probably would not have sent it in the first place. Because of they way you present yourself, you might be a candidate, so the guy took a chance to ask you.
There is nothing about drinks as friends, or rights for demands of sex or anything forceful to put demands into action ... sheesh. What a paranoid and fanciful imagination you have. None of this is part of your first post. You are fabricating all this stuff in an overdramatic way out of nothing to try to prove your point.
Jaedyn wrote:
I really dont see how anything like a simple one liner joke could leave me to be seen as "fishing for it" OR "asking for it". People who say stupid things like that remind me of the discusting people who commit the minging crimes we're discussing.... small minded. No luv, it's a number of things. It's your entire presentation. Scroll up. It starts with the XXX in the first paragraph of your intro, to the nude photos, to the bed photos, to the lap dancing, to the pole dancing, and to all your soul searching about your mental illness that you tell the world about in your general description.
I told you I mean no disrespect, but you seem to want to slam someone just because you have some pent up hatred for men and you expect them all to be disgusting perverts. Personally, I find the whole idea of lap dances to be pretty perverted myself, but it doesn't matter to me at all if that's the way you want to work and express yourself.
You are overdramatic and untethered. I didn't say anything to insult you. I'm responding to the illogic of your post and I'm simply showing you the multiple points of your hipocricy and your bigoted thought process. You want to slam someone with an "all men are assholes" kind of attitude. That's why I jumped in to deconstruct the situation for you and the other people enjoying this thread. I don't see any malice in the original letter from the pervert you showed us.
Jaedyn wrote:
You seem to be condoning what this perv has written. So what if I was a 15 year old model, just starting out and not knowing much about the industry.. does that give him the right to send me such rubbish? And if I was that 15yr old naive model and went to the job, only thinking of the money as some new models do.. does that give him the right to do as he pleases with me? Because I was naive enough to turn up?? Again... I THINK NOT!
Things like this are taken too lightly these days. So many women (and men) get attacked these days and raped, etc.. that we should be taking note of things.. rather than having a laugh and joke about it. See? There you go again, LOL. Who said anything about a 15 year old? Who said anything about rape? Keep your feet on the ground my dear, or you might blow a gasket. Why are you making all this stuff up?
Photographer
Click Hamilton
Posts: 36555
San Diego, California, US
Mandie wrote:
First of all, to the OP.... The way you've changed your bio, in my opinion, is kind of childish.
"You may not be a whore, but you're wearing a whore's uniform... And that shit's confusing!" Haha ... Jaedyn, .. you know what? I had a funny feeling in the pit of my stomach that you would change and sterilize your MM portfolio and pictures to support your "poor little me" argument here and in an attempt to try to make me look like a fool talking about nothing and that you would say that it's me who is making things up.
So, I copied the whole page.
Would you like me to paste it back in here so people know what we are talking about?
I'm happy to be of service.
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La Seine by the Hudson
Posts: 8587
New York, New York, US
Does anybody ever stop to think how many people read this who are not necessarily posting? And that some really bad first impressions might result from it?
(If you don't care, disregard.)
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Tryingreallyhard Delete
Posts: 122
Dallas, Texas, US
Tell him: "Sure...as long as you don't mind the corn-pads and athelete's foot powder!!!" :-P
Brian
Model
Idaho
Posts: 1271
Colorado Springs, Colorado, US
Tom Sullivan wrote:
Okay it is gross but you couldve tried negotiating a price with him just to see how much he would be prepared to pay. Some of these guys have got a lot of money and you might be surprised at how much he might offer you. Uhh, What is the matter with you? If you have morals or standards or whatever you chose to call them, than money shouldn't change that.
That said I have (almost) none. Feel free to send all your pervy email to me!
Model
Idaho
Posts: 1271
Colorado Springs, Colorado, US
Click Hamilton wrote:
Jaedyn, I mean no disrespect, luv, but you also say you were a
"*Dancer for Spearmint Rhino (2003)."
I don't know what the Spearmint Rhino is in England, but here in California the Spearmint Rhino is a trademark name for a place with strippers and erotic dancers.
Are you advertising that you were a stripper or erotic dancer? Lots of strippers are also hookers, so there's another suggestion you've made to solicit propositions.
And again, you say nowhere in your portfolio about the limits you stated in your rant at the beginning of this thread.
By the way you present yourself, I'm not surprised you got that letter. It looks like you are fishing, and it looks like that guy sent you a fishing letter as well.
He even signed his proposition politely.
Cool your jets. You asked for it. There is no harm done. You just like the drama of complaining about men who are jerks and talking about putting some guys penis in a cheese shredder. I am sorry but a women is never "asking for it" unless she really asks for it. I don't know of a good way to ask a woman if one can jerk off on her feet but he obviously didn't do it that well.
Photographer
Dave Krueger
Posts: 2851
Huntsville, Alabama, US
Ah, the moral indignation...
Photographer
Jim Ball
Posts: 17632
Frontenac, Kansas, US
so, did Jaedyn yank her port off MM and go away. I click on her port and get the "not a member." message.
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Arizona Shoots
Posts: 28821
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Jaedyn wrote:
My final note on this post and to this site before I leave..
People shouldnt judge someone by their job. If that is the case then the photographer in question shouldn't be judged for offering you a job.
Photographer
Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Idaho Edokpayi wrote:
I am sorry but a women is never "asking for it" unless she really asks for it. I don't know of a good way to ask a woman if one can jerk off on her feet but he obviously didn't do it that well. It's about having common sense and being responsible for how we present ourselves or act among others.
Here's a scenario I use when trying to help people understand what I mean when I say someone is "asking for it."
A woman should be able to run through Central Park (New York) naked at 2am and NOT be assaulted.
We can all agree on this right? But, she is "asking" for it by playing with fire. Running anywhere at 2am is dangerous. Running while naked is practically a DARE. But again, she SHOULD be able to do it without fear of being assaulted. However, because of what DOES happen statically, any woman willing to run through Central Park at 2am while naked is just plain STUPID and irresponsible.
Soooo...my point. If you post nudes in your port. You show work experience as having been a stripper/pole dancer etc...well...THINK ABOUT IT. It's like throwing breadcrumbs for the squirrels and then getting pissed off that birds came and ate them.
Photographer
revolution photography
Posts: 114
Los Angeles, California, US
Jim Ball wrote:
so, did Jaedyn yank her port off MM and go away. I click on her port and get the "not a member." message. I'm guessing she was deleted. Shame really but I can understand why she may have been. There wasn't any real foul beyond a provocative (if not lude) email. Aren't we all used to email from "[email protected]"?
Chris
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Mann Made Imagery
Posts: 5281
Lubbock, Texas, US
Lens N Light wrote:
What do Americans have to do with this tjhread (except comment of course)? The Photographer is from London and the OP is from North Yorkshire. hahahahhahaha
Photographer
Mann Made Imagery
Posts: 5281
Lubbock, Texas, US
some men are stupid, get over it, it's a part of being beautiful. there's a thing called tolerance and you do that when you don't like something and you're supposed to ignore it. what are his e-mails going to do? get off on you? he's a desperate lonely man, it's really sad, the only joy he will ever know is that of his own 2 hands.
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Tom Sullivan
Posts: 210
Thuy Anh wrote:
some men are stupid, get over it, it's a part of being beautiful. there's a thing called tolerance and you do that when you don't like something and you're supposed to ignore it. what are his e-mails going to do? get off on you? he's a desperate lonely man, it's really sad, the only joy he will ever know is that of his own 2 hands. He probably only needs one hand. Unlike some of us...
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Wynd Mulysa
Posts: 8619
Berkeley, California, US
1. I think maybe you were a little hard on her, though I think all of your p oints were valid.. Especially because Click Hamilton is one of my favorites.
2. I want to know what she changed her bio to before she deleted herself!
Photographer
oldguysrule
Posts: 6129
oh poo... i thought this was a thread dedicated to me
Model
Lapis
Posts: 8424
Chicago, Illinois, US
oldguysrule wrote:
oh poo... i thought this was a thread dedicated to me I would certainly hope your perversions are more complicated and subtle than that....
Weirdly enough, I never get e-mails like this on this site. I get a few on omp: one guy said he wanted to do clothed bondage shoots focusing on feet in his profile, and then when we started corresponding he asked if he could do some foot worshipping while he was at it. I told him to go to a professional domme.
It is ironic, that while I have quite a bit of erotica in my port, I usually end up pestering photographers before they pester me. For some reason, I think I may be intimidating.
seriously though, while this is a funny story, I think you are taking it too personally.
Maybe add a line to your portfolio saying: I am not interested in working with photographers who are interested in ejaculating in, on, or around me.
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Sirensong
Posts: 2173
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
Lapis wrote:
Maybe add a line to your portfolio saying: I am not interested in working with photographers who are interested in ejaculating in, on, or around me. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I literally just got tea down my nose thank you for that .
First person to add that to their port gets a cookie?
I think she may have deleted her profile herself.
She mailed me about my post and then we mailed back and forth a little.
She did seem a little(excuse the pun)jaded about the whole industry and this site in general.
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oldguysrule
Posts: 6129
Lapis wrote:
I would certainly hope your perversions are more complicated and subtle than that.... complicated anyway... feet are well so done
oddly very few models have threatened to ejaculate on me lately
i'll work on the subtlety before we shoot perhaps you'll start a new trend
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Mayanlee
Posts: 3560
New City, New York, US
Lapis wrote:
It is ironic, that while I have quite a bit of erotica in my port, I usually end up pestering photographers before they pester me. For some reason, I think I may be intimidating. Dunno, Lapis... maybe you just present a special challenge ...
Then again, there's nothing better than intelligence and caustic wit for inspiring shrinkage and warding off mental pygmies.
(I try to think of it that way rather than think it's due to advancing age ... *sigh*)
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American Glamour
Posts: 38813
Detroit, Michigan, US
Cary K wrote:
Ewwwwwwwwwwwww! I couldn't have said it better!
My question is to wonder how this has turned into a referendum on the OP and her values? I am missing something here.
The fact that she danced at one time doesn't make her a hooker. But it wasn't her that made the inapprpriate remarks in the e-mail, it was the shooter (or someone who claims to be a shooter).
What the guy suggested was absurd, it had nothing to do with modeling or photography and there is no place for him in the biz. A lot of people tend to brush these things off as just one of those things. The truth is that as long as the net is perceived to have those kinds of problems, the mainstream will never regard it as more than a joke.
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James Berglie
Posts: 102
Nottingham, Maryland, US
Jaedyn wrote:
**IF THE PERSON IM TALKING ABOUT IS A MEMBER OF THIS SITE, THEN I WILL NOT RETRACT THIS POST.. AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF**
I recieved an email a while ago from a London based photographer, asking if I'd be interested in a Fetish shoot, sort of feet orientated.
Anyway, at the time I wasnt modeling - taking afew months off - so kindly refused and asked him to let me know if he was ever up in the North of England.
I woke up this fine sunny morning, made myself a coffee in my favourite pink mug, and sat down to read through my emails. I nearly choked on my Nescafe when I read his follow up email..
The exact email read this:
"hi there. I am planning the proposed shoot we were arranging last year for the end of this month at box studios in London.
could we include a little interaction including your fet and hands? It will be solely for personal use and will include the penis (me as the photographer as I cannot afford a male model) to be seen next to the feet/hands, hands/feet grabing, and ejaculation on nylon clad feet..
Let me know about your availability and the rate in your mind...
regards of the kindest...
k"
Now I'm sorry if I seem to have taken this a little hard.. but where the hell do blokes get off telling us they like to ejaculate on us for "Personal Use"?? Is that the new phrase they're using to justify their pathetic and pervy needs and make it sound more professional?
I have never done Adult work and would not, this is stated on my website so why ask??
I was also angered by the fact he has tried acting like we have already started arranging a shoot, I assume he was hoping I'd forgotten who he was and that I'd just go along with his imaginary shoot.
MEN..TAKE NOTE.. WE DO NOT APPRECIATE SUCH FILTH IN OUR INBOX!! I know this has been said before..... and Ill say it again.... ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
Photographer
James Berglie
Posts: 102
Nottingham, Maryland, US
Jaedyn wrote:
**IF THE PERSON IM TALKING ABOUT IS A MEMBER OF THIS SITE, THEN I WILL NOT RETRACT THIS POST.. AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF**
I recieved an email a while ago from a London based photographer, asking if I'd be interested in a Fetish shoot, sort of feet orientated.
Anyway, at the time I wasnt modeling - taking afew months off - so kindly refused and asked him to let me know if he was ever up in the North of England.
I woke up this fine sunny morning, made myself a coffee in my favourite pink mug, and sat down to read through my emails. I nearly choked on my Nescafe when I read his follow up email..
The exact email read this:
"hi there. I am planning the proposed shoot we were arranging last year for the end of this month at box studios in London.
could we include a little interaction including your fet and hands? It will be solely for personal use and will include the penis (me as the photographer as I cannot afford a male model) to be seen next to the feet/hands, hands/feet grabing, and ejaculation on nylon clad feet..
Let me know about your availability and the rate in your mind...
regards of the kindest...
k"
Now I'm sorry if I seem to have taken this a little hard.. but where the hell do blokes get off telling us they like to ejaculate on us for "Personal Use"?? Is that the new phrase they're using to justify their pathetic and pervy needs and make it sound more professional?
I have never done Adult work and would not, this is stated on my website so why ask??
I was also angered by the fact he has tried acting like we have already started arranging a shoot, I assume he was hoping I'd forgotten who he was and that I'd just go along with his imaginary shoot.
MEN..TAKE NOTE.. WE DO NOT APPRECIATE SUCH FILTH IN OUR INBOX!! I know this has been said before..... and Ill say it again.... ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
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