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Photographer

Artbroken Images

Posts: 235

Chicago, Illinois, US

I had an all-day (5+ hrs) shoot... I didn't offer my model lunch or a glass of water. It never crossed my mind. He had to actually ask for something. That was embarrassing. I guess if your shoot is like 2hrs or less you just shoot.

My question is when is it expected for you to start offering things like breaks? Do you ever shut down the shoot for awhile and do other things?
I'm sort of a wallflower so "do what I feel" won't help me. Thanks

Jun 07 06 08:34 am Link

Photographer

Eikona

Posts: 1405

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

The model works best when they're not hypoglycemic... it's helpful to bring munchies and drinks if you're going for that long, or over lunch or dinner hours.

The large, professional all-day shoots are often catered.

Jun 07 06 08:37 am Link

Model

overandout

Posts: 3619

Aberdeen, Washington, US

I don't know how others feel about it, but when I did my pregnancy shoot we took a 10-15 minute break every 2 hours and we stopped for lunch.  Now, we didn't just sit around or anything.  I did my typical run to the restroom as all pregnant women can't help, and would prep myself (make-up, hair) for the next session. It also gave him (the photographer) a chance to check equipment, make changes, and regroup.

Jun 07 06 08:38 am Link

Photographer

Stuart Photography

Posts: 5938

Tampa, Florida, US

at a minimum, no matter how short my shoots are, I always have bottled water. Longer shoots, either my client or I cater if budget allows. For my personal project shoots, I always offer drinks and sushi.

I don't think there's an 'industry requirement' here. None that I know of

Jun 07 06 08:38 am Link

Photographer

Analog Nomad

Posts: 4097

Pattaya, Central, Thailand

Jameson wrote:
I had an all-day (5+ hrs) shoot... I didn't offer my model lunch or a glass of water. It never crossed my mind. He had to actually ask for something. That was embarrassing. I guess if your shoot is like 2hrs or less you just shoot.

My question is when is it expected for you to start offering things like breaks? Do you ever shut down the shoot for awhile a do other things?
I'm sort of a wallflower so "do what I feel" won't help me. Thanks

It all depends on how long the shoot is.

I always have a fridge in my studio stocked with bottled water, Diet Pepsi, etc. On location if it's more than an hour, I bring a cooler.

If it's an all-day shoot, I also buy lunch for everybody -- MUA, models, assistant, etc.

Jun 07 06 08:39 am Link

Photographer

Artbroken Images

Posts: 235

Chicago, Illinois, US

Thank you all,
You really go all out. I didn't realize before I asked just how big of a mistake I was making.

I really appreciate the help.

Jun 07 06 09:36 am Link

Photographer

dissolvegirl

Posts: 297

Northampton, Massachusetts, US

Especially if it's TFP/TFCD, I make sure to bring a cooler of bottled water on location-- in Alabama it's important, especially around this time of year! I buy lunch/snacks/milkshakes (yes, I shoot with models who drink milkshakes!) after the shoot sometimes, depending on how long we've been shooting, how hungry/hot the models are, and we sit around BSing and going through the shots on my camera. I know a lot of photographers don't/wouldn't, but I provide for escorts as well-- since if you're bringing an escort, he's carrying all of my crap, all of your crap, and if there's another model who didn't bring an escort, all of her crap too. Everyone at my shoots works. wink

Jun 07 06 09:46 am Link

Model

Iona Lynn

Posts: 11176

Oakland, California, US

small munchies are good.
water is almost nessessary.
Modeling isnt like most jobs where every 4 hours gvernemt requires a 10 min break and every 8 a .5 hour break.
Some jobs are pretty tough on the body and require a lot of strength and stamina.
would you exersize or play ball for 4 hours and not drink water?

Jun 07 06 10:03 am Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

I try to have a case of water in the studio, although I feel weird about offering it after reading horror stories of spiked drinks and so on..  But I'll usually ask what the model likes to drink and try to have some near at hand before the shoot..

I probably take more breaks than the model needs to..

And lunch is on me if I'm not broke..

My biggest embarrassment is that the bathroom is next door.. Not a big deal.. But feel weird having to walk someone down the sidewalk inbetween outfit changes to the office where the facilities are..

Jun 07 06 10:07 am Link

Model

Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

Just tell your model's it's ok to bring snacks and something to drink because it's going to be a long shoot.  I agree, too often people are suspicious because of all the urban legends.  Just make the suggestion during your prep conversations and let the model buy what they want.  I always bring snacks and water anyway because I figure the photog will be focused on the aspects of the shoot vs. my comfort.  Breaks?  I usually think there is enough time between set up changes, test exposures, film / lens changes, etc. to suffice.  It all depends on the situation.  If it's cold out and you are shooting nudes, you need warm up breaks as needed.  Or conversely, if it's hot and you're shooting sweaters, then you will need more frequent breaks. You will get better shots if the model isn't fatigued.

Jun 07 06 10:32 am Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

I always watch these details for the comfort of people around me. I'm a gentleman and that's the way I grew up. It's the right thing to do.

I always offer lunch or dinner following a photo shoot, usually at a nice Japanese restaurant nearby for healthy nourishment and convenience. Most people appreciate it. Sometimes we are overtime and on the run, so it just depends.

It's a good way to debrief and summarize what we accomplished during a photo shoot, and make plans or do some brainstorming from there. I'm pretty intense when I focus on shooting, so I like to decompress a little too.

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Jun 07 06 11:46 am Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

WG Rowland wrote:
My biggest embarrassment is that the bathroom is next door.. Not a big deal.. But feel weird having to walk someone down the sidewalk inbetween outfit changes to the office where the facilities are..

Hahaha .. Bill are you talking about your studio, or mine? Embarassment? ... or just some funny circumstances? That sounds like charming and memorable character to me ;-)

Jun 07 06 11:51 am Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

Mine..  Everything about your "studio" is charming.. 

Mine's a small walk down a sidewalk next to a moderately busy road..

I should probably put a sign up in the studio to remind everyone:

"Potty BEFORE the latex.."  smile

Jun 07 06 11:58 am Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

What kind of latex?

Jun 07 06 12:17 pm Link

Model

overandout

Posts: 3619

Aberdeen, Washington, US

WG Rowland wrote:
"Potty BEFORE the latex.."  smile

oh to be a passerby during an impromptu trip to the bathroom!

Jun 07 06 12:59 pm Link

Photographer

Alexis_Kennedy

Posts: 1308

Portland, Oregon, US

Whenever I'm doing a shoot I always head to the local market and pick up a few things:

- Bottled water
- Tissue Paper (comes in handy more then you know, and nobody get cute)
- Some kind of light snack item

I also always make sure my house is relatively clean, with fresh towels in case the model needs to wash up or change make up.  If a model is looking tired or worn out during or after a shoot I almost always offer to buy lunch.

Jun 08 06 12:29 am Link