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Its all about the approach.
NC17 wrote: This thread made me rewrite my bio.. Jun 03 06 02:21 pm Link Very well said, and I think it's generally accurate. Too many photographers have let their egos run well ahead of the quality of their work. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on the situation, the images and the attitude speak for themselves. The better and more experienced models are usually perfectly capable of judging for themselves. Decisions are based on other things too, including whether the photographers work fills a gap in a models book. Sometimes photographers are turned down only because their style is similar to something the model has shot recently. A recent case study: A friend of mine was recently approached by three photographers on the same day, all offering TFP (probably by a lot more than three... these are the ones I heard about). She's well known, has shot with people you've heard of, has appeared in magazines you've heard of. All of the photographers were essentially unknown. Their work was above average, but not yet at the level she is accustomed to working at; none of them have shot with national-level talent. So my friend sent them rates, very reasonable rates in this case. Two of them took it personally. One gave her grief in several followup messages, tried to lecture her, got her upset enough that I had to spend an hour on the phone with her, calming her down... on a day when I was on deadline. The third photographer graciously said, oh, I can't afford that, said a few nice things, and moved on. My friend contacted the photographer who had been nice, offered her a tfp after all. We're also going to introduce her to a few additional people. The guy who was really rude... he probably doesn't even understand that this is the reason he was turned down by a second model a short time later. She'd heard the story, and didn't want to deal with his attitude. And if I ever meet him, he's going to get a piece of my mind for messing up my day. We talk to each other, folks. If you're respectful to a model, we hear about that. If your ego gets in the way and you're rude to her... we hear about that, too. Jun 03 06 02:22 pm Link Israel wrote: Israel: This is what I think some photographers miss. I shot with someone recently that honestly had no idea what to do with me. I doubt he'd have had any idea what to do with any model. It ended up feeling like I was a pretty object in the middle of some green scenery, and that was rather uncomfortable for me. I often feel like photographers (particularly new photographers) don't realize that they need to provide the model with direction and clarity to gain the photographs they want. They continually end up disappointed with the photos, never achieving their desired results, not ever recognizing that were they to communicate exactly what their vision is with the model it would suddenly become clear. Jun 03 06 06:55 pm Link |