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Working with Shorter Photographers ....
Given comments ( and concerns) posted by some photographers about working with shorter models ( ie 5'2 and under ) I would like to ask all the taller ( 5'9 plus ) fashion models what it is like working with shorter photographers ..you know ladies - the photographers who have to bring a step ladder along so they can shoot you at eye level and if they dont - there is a good chance they will get some of their angles screwed up! Just curious . May 21 06 10:52 pm Link As fashion is usually shot from the models' hip-level anyway, I'd think shortness would be an advantage. But I'm not a model... -D May 21 06 11:02 pm Link D. Brian Nelson wrote: I just had a shoot today with a normal height model and I did it all from a chair, I love it, if I was short I would have to stand! May 21 06 11:07 pm Link There was just a thread about this last week. https://modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=47699 May 21 06 11:17 pm Link I guess the waist level view finder thingy on my camera needs to be used by someone who is 10' feet tall. What were those crazy camera folks thinking when they invented it. Silly me. May 22 06 01:55 am Link Cristal likes short photogs cause they make her look tall from down there May 22 06 01:58 am Link Fat Puppy Studio wrote: So I start this thread to get somefeedback from the ladies - and I get all these guy photogs throwing in their 2 cents ...Then I check the other related thread - and I see the same ...( but also a few shorter than high fashion height models) May 22 06 02:14 am Link I don't see why the height of the photog is relevant to anything. I suppose a taller photog may be a bit faster then a one with a stepladder in the situations where a high angle is necessary. I think that there is a bigger difference between photogs who are in good shape vs those who are not just on the standpoint of mobility. But it all depends on shooting style. I think every photog develops their own unique style based on their physical capability. May 22 06 02:28 am Link Jay Dezelic wrote: Good points ,and you are probably taller than most photogs being 6'1 May 22 06 02:33 am Link i love giant women. May 22 06 02:34 am Link Garry k wrote: Fat Puppy Studio wrote: So I start this thread to get somefeedback from the ladies - and I get all these guy photogs throwing in their 2 cents ...Then I check the other related thread - and I see the same ...( but also a few shorter than high fashion height models) Garry k wrote: It should have occurred to you that photographers might know something about photography and how models should be shot. Would you ask artists models about the different types of brushes that painters use to paint them with? You can ask all the models this question that you like, but what the photographers are telling you is correct regardless. Have you ever seen the red carpet photos where the stars have distorted heads and bodies with foreshortened legs? That's the result of eye level or higher body shots, and that's the result no matter what any model or anyone else tells you. Models opinions or preferences don't change the laws of optics or perspective.... oddly enough... May 22 06 02:43 am Link Stanley wrote: I know Stanley , we all do May 22 06 02:49 am Link Garry k wrote: actually not being tall myself.. I love short women with nice boobs of course.. nice buns too.. great legs help.. tiny waist ok great...and a pretty face doesnt hurt any either. heres a great example! May 22 06 03:10 am Link Who cares. I have big feet. May 22 06 03:22 am Link It should have occurred to you that photographers might know something about photography and how models should be shot. Would you ask artists models about the different types of brushes that painters use to paint them with? You can ask all the models this question that you like, but what the photographers are telling you is correct regardless...... Aaron,,,, The elevation level of your camera in shooting a model depends on many things - what kind of lense you have , how close/far away you are from the model , where you are shooting ,what type of effect you are tryin go to achieve ...And your point about asking "artists models about painting ..."exposes your lack of true experience working with professsional high fashion models.. Point is - there are models who are so good that they could easily take over and direct the average photographer on how to shoot them . From practice and experience - they know their body , the range and subtle shifts of expression in the eyes and mouth , how to to find that find that desired pose and work thru its variations , the laws of symetry etc. Had the honor of working with model Coco Rocha ( April 2006 Italian Vogue Cover /and inside editorial shot by Meisel ) a couple of times before she took hit the big time and I would have to say in reflection - Damn !.....that 17 year old girl schooled me .She was so fast and so good at posing - i was working hard to keep up to her in the shoots May 22 06 03:23 am Link FabioTovar wrote: Garry k wrote: actually not being tall myself.. I love short women with nice .... May 22 06 03:25 am Link Garry k wrote: what height constitutes "short" for the photographer? less than your cited 5'9" model? and what about him/her getting up on a ladder or step-stool? May 22 06 03:37 am Link Garry k wrote: FabioTovar wrote: Garry k wrote: actually not being tall myself.. I love short women with nice .... well i dont know about loving tall womens periods but ... what ever floats your boat. May 22 06 03:42 am Link FML-Photography wrote: Yes model 5'9 or taller, photographer shorter than 5'9 May 22 06 03:43 am Link i am 5'3" tall only... i climb on things, i stand on things, sometimes i have things set up for me to jump to and fro on, i get a pretty good workout with tall models sometimes. i also wear platforms sometimes and i also wear a lot of heels when i wear heels i get pretty close to their height sometimes but still need to tip toe sometimes, having done point in ballet helps a lot, so i just run around in my heels or jump and climb on things. i use the word sometimes a lot. May 22 06 03:45 am Link Thuy Anh wrote: I would very much like to see that. at least sometime. 5'3 and pretty May 22 06 03:47 am Link Garry k wrote: hmm ... well, i'm right at 5'9" so guess i can't say anything ... Thuy Anh wrote: ... but yeah, i do move around a lot too: can be down on the floor one second, then on top of a ladder shooting off the ceiling the next. May 22 06 03:49 am Link FML-Photography wrote: How tall was the tallest female model you have worked with ? . Have you ever worked with any in the 6 foot plus range and how did that go? May 22 06 03:00 pm Link FabioTovar wrote: Is there something wrong with this Salma picture? One, I have never seen her this skinny and secondly, doesn't her head look HUGE? I just measure it and her top of head to chin is almost the same as her shoulders to belly-button. Hmmm :-) May 22 06 03:08 pm Link Apfel Photography wrote: FabioTovar wrote: Is there something wrong with this Salma picture? ..... May 22 06 06:34 pm Link Garry k wrote: I didn't have a question, but thank you. I thought your question was kind of fun, so I commmented, acknowledged, wasn't attempting to speak on models behalf. As to Terry Richardson, more power to him. And to answer your question with a question to the question...errr...he shot with a Yashica T4. He would encounter barrel distortion away from the center of the image at certain distances (the length of the lense being what it was, I think 40mm?) The autofocus was centerweighted, so lots of limitations there, not the multi-point autofocus SLR's of today). May 22 06 07:17 pm Link Fat Puppy Studio wrote: Actually Terry Richardson has shot most of his work using an old Instamatic....( which makes him even more remarkable as a Fashion photographer ) May 22 06 07:31 pm Link I'm only 5'5 but I have worn 6'' heels at a shoot before and the photographer had to use a ladder. I thought it was cute haha! May 22 06 07:34 pm Link Garry k wrote: Just having fun, and learning something new everyday, didn't realize it was an old instamatic. I know he used different cameras for different things. Anyway, its been a fun thread. May 22 06 10:08 pm Link FabioTovar wrote: awww thanks, i actually run around in heels almost everyday, so anyone that sees me will see me in all of my cute little heels. i'm addicted to them O_O May 24 06 02:20 am Link I'm 6'3 and I get bad knees from kneeling all the damn time to take the shots at the right level. EVERY model is smaller than me. The only way I can stand and photograph people is from 30' away with a 200mm lense And, I still get on steps for the high angled shots. Shooting my 2 year old daughter from the right height involves lieing down ! I really dont think that the hight of the photographer is relevant in any way, unless the photographer is a real dork that stands on one spot with the camera at eye level, shooting jpegs with on camera flash. May 24 06 02:52 am Link Don't think it matters........it's just a different set of angles May 24 06 06:23 am Link Love the shorties! Good things come in small packages Eva Longoria Salma are a couple examples I find myself on the floor shooting up a lot to make the model look even taller. I'm 5'9. May 24 06 11:16 am Link Garry k wrote: 6'2" ... May 24 06 11:24 am Link I don't really do fashion, but I am almost 6 foot. I've had a couple photographers who are used to working with shorter models try to figure out how to shoot me. They move alot more to try to get the shots that they want, I'm sure its quite a work out for them. May 24 06 11:46 am Link |