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Photographer

Alex Mercatali

Posts: 453

Forlì, Emilia-Romagna, Italy

Wyld Wolfy wrote:
where the guy would put his Hoh, and would it be up or down

Have the penis (surgically) removed before starting the shoot big_smile

that's the best way to simulate sex without having ! big_smile

as many others have already mentioned, doesn't make sense even for me to "simulate" sex.

is it something that hurts? No.
is it something that can't be redo? No.
is it illegal? No.

Then, go for the real thing. And please, don't give us the "he's gay", it doesn't count...

May 14 06 07:26 am Link

Photographer

KEKnight

Posts: 1876

Cumming, Georgia, US

UnoMundo Photography wrote:
get a couple that has been married more than 5 years  - that is simulated sex!

LMAO !!!

May 14 06 07:30 am Link

Photographer

ELANFOTOS

Posts: 676

Miami, Florida, US

well, first  you should take your ,, uh.... your uh...,hmmm. Let him put  the ..uh,..uh... his uh ... ,

you know what, just come over, its easier if i just show you. Now your not leaving till you get it right, so be prepared to work hard. 


(and bring stuff to make me a sandwich)

May 14 06 07:31 am Link

Photographer

D. Brian Nelson

Posts: 5477

Rapid City, South Dakota, US

Duct tape.

-D

May 14 06 08:23 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

p51 wrote:
So, we stripped, and, no kidding folks, we practiced having intense sex without any penetration for two hours.

So uh...yeah, I think I hate you now. wink

May 14 06 08:26 am Link

Photographer

studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Anjel Britt wrote:
YeeeuuACHH

GUYS!

This is NOT modelling!!!

Nah... it's kinda more like acting. LOL

Studio36

May 14 06 09:18 am Link

Photographer

markEdwardPhoto

Posts: 1398

Trumbull, Connecticut, US

My first question is why do you want to do this? Will it help you add to your portfolio?

Personally, it sounds as though someone wants to get laid, and have some photos of it.

If this is shot, do you know where the images will go? Will they be seen on the net in the future? If they are, you know its out there for all to see forever.

If the guy is really 'gay' then him getting a hard-on will not be an issue. He shouldn't! If he is not, the he will be hard in two seconds and you have to put it somewhere to make it 'look simulated' I can only think of one place too.

Good luck.

May 14 06 09:57 am Link

Photographer

WBV Artography

Posts: 1370

San Antonio, Texas, US

Reminds me of an ex-friend that claimed I was a pornographer because I photoed girls in bikinis.   Or my own mom because one of my favorite images you can see the models right butt cheek.

BTW-it's called a 'penis', we're presumably enough of adults here to say the 'P' word and not get all flustered, right?

i would post an image from my erotica shoot but you can see my penis in there and not sure how that would go over with the staff here.

May 14 06 10:34 am Link

Photographer

ADG Photography

Posts: 544

Calhoun, Georgia, US

DigitalCMH wrote:
I was curious enough about this while watching porn on cable.  I noticed the positions were not quite right for penetration.  But then I saw one where they were in the "doggie" style position and the way he was pounding her, there just was NO WAY hey can't be doing it.  The guy would be jabbin' his "tool" into her leg, butt, or...well, you know.  And this is totally TMI, but it HURTs when you miss and you get jammed/bent.  Sooooo....I started doing a slow play...and what I saw was, the "actor" was still wearing a condom, however, he was completely limp.  With it hanging limp, there was no danger of hurting himself and they could bump uglies all they wanted.

I don't recall where I read this, but I heard they don't always edit porn for cable.  Instead, they'll reshoot the scene.  My guess is, they do the REAL porn first.  Then after the actor is spend and limp, they redo the scene like how I just described.

Ok, sorry for my choice of words and the TMI stuff.

God Bless.

Yes, and they also shoot actual sex in a way that shows no penetration so they can put it on cable. In some cases, the guy is really doing the girl, but certain camera set-ups and editing produce the soft-porn stuff.   But I too have seen those Cinemax shows where positions are so "off" there is no way it is anything BUT simulated. Kind of funny, actually.

May 14 06 10:42 am Link

Model

Southern Gent

Posts: 711

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Here is an example..
https://img3.modelmayhem.com/060224/14/43ff6bdf3c9b8.jpg

May 14 06 10:45 am Link

Photographer

Valkyrur

Posts: 1187

Nelsonville, New York, US

Simulating sex is a realm of professional porno models which, it
seems, you are not. The wise guy just wants some "good-stuff"
using photography, or being gay, as an excuse. Were you born yesterday?

May 14 06 10:48 am Link

Photographer

Alluring Exposures

Posts: 11400

Casa Grande, Arizona, US

Sounds like an easy way to be relegated to soft-porn work and getting asked to do hard-core by a lot of people... think about it carefully because depending on what you want to do with your modeling, or your life, it may come back to haunt you.

I can't tell you how many threads there are of models upset with photographers because they won't take down plain old nudes they did 3, 5 years ago and now they are (getting) married and their significant others are upset about the pics... or even worse, their fathers or father's friends finding the pics online.

Wyld Wolfy wrote:
K, so offered something from a friend, and he talked about simulating sex...anyone willing to give me a heads up on how that might work, where the guy would put his Hoh, and would it be up or down...photogs models opinions would be appreciated
wyld

May 14 06 10:57 am Link

Photographer

Benjamen McGuire

Posts: 3991

Portland, Oregon, US

When I simulate sex I like to hide my thing in the girl's vag so it doesn't flop around but a limp gay man will have no problems tucking it somewhere else. lol

May 14 06 11:18 am Link

Photographer

Alluring Exposures

Posts: 11400

Casa Grande, Arizona, US

He might bend it back and tuck it in his own a$$ lol

Cspine wrote:
When I simulate sex I like to hide my thing in the girl's vag so it doesn't flop around but a limp gay man will have no problems tucking it somewhere else. lol

May 14 06 01:17 pm Link

Model

Just AJ

Posts: 3478

Round Rock, Texas, US

Wyld Wolfy wrote:
K, so offered something from a friend, and he talked about simulating sex...anyone willing to give me a heads up on how that might work, where the guy would put his Hoh, and would it be up or down...photogs models opinions would be appreciated
wyld

I think this is a GREAT example of what you're talking about.  Or at least what I think you're talking about.  It is a beautiful, artistic and very emotionally evocative picture.

https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=43581ae64eea1

May 14 06 01:26 pm Link

Model

Wyld Wolfy

Posts: 10

Canandaigua, New York, US

very very nice, thanks jayne

May 14 06 01:28 pm Link

Model

Just AJ

Posts: 3478

Round Rock, Texas, US

Mac Davis wrote:
Here is an example..
https://img3.modelmayhem.com/060224/14/43ff6bdf3c9b8.jpg

Truly beautiful picture!!

May 14 06 01:28 pm Link

Photographer

PDXImaging

Posts: 1476

Lake Oswego, Oregon, US

Simulated sex????  Hmmmm... life is so much easier on the left coast...  LOL

May 14 06 01:43 pm Link

Model

Just AJ

Posts: 3478

Round Rock, Texas, US

Wyld Wolfy wrote:
very very nice, thanks jayne

I do what I can.

May 14 06 02:21 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Anderson

Posts: 2472

Atlanta, Georgia, US

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
Duct tape.

-D

Ouch! 

Try sex diapers - they use them for TV and movie work.

May 14 06 02:26 pm Link

Model

Adrienne Aurora

Posts: 2745

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Would be more interesting..thought it said "stimulating" sex at first.

May 14 06 04:28 pm Link

Photographer

William Kious

Posts: 8842

Delphos, Ohio, US

Wyld Wolfy wrote:
K, so offered something from a friend, and he talked about simulating sex...anyone willing to give me a heads up on how that might work, where the guy would put his Hoh, and would it be up or down...photogs models opinions would be appreciated
wyld

Judging by the content of your profile and portfolio, why would you even consider shooting something like this?  I'm just curious...

May 14 06 04:41 pm Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Why simulate? If you want good sex photos, stimulate.
It looks better in photos and it's more fun.

May 14 06 04:52 pm Link

Model

Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Adrienne Aurora wrote:
Would be more interesting..thought it said "stimulating" sex at first.

I thought the same thing...

May 14 06 04:54 pm Link

Photographer

Ascending Phoenix

Posts: 418

Lexington, Kentucky, US

Wyld Wolfy wrote:
K, so offered something from a friend, and he talked about simulating sex...anyone willing to give me a heads up on how that might work, where the guy would put his Hoh, and would it be up or down...photogs models opinions would be appreciated
wyld

On another FORUM..saw an image from a Polish Photographer..very erotic/graphic..yet clasy at the same time.Issue is here in the good old US od A too many want to take it into the gutter..Erotica..doesnt mean the photographer is a total pervert..Id share a link..but doubt it would work.have always been fascinated at the difference between Euro photogs/Models vs USA..Too much puritanical BS I think..oh well.that and $2.00 will buy me a cup od Starbucks..that I really crave at the moment..LOL

May 14 06 04:59 pm Link

Photographer

terminated user

Posts: 520

Henderson, Nevada, US

A shameless plug to my webpage, but also a session I did with simulated sex:

http://www.bcgphoto.com/07_gallery_arti … sto_2.html

May 14 06 05:11 pm Link

Model

Wynd Mulysa

Posts: 8619

Berkeley, California, US

Cspine wrote:
When I simulate sex I like to hide my thing in the girl's vag so it doesn't flop around but a limp gay man will have no problems tucking it somewhere else. lol

Yay!  I was getting yelled at for using the word "vag" a couple days ago.
I'm happy about your choice of words.

May 14 06 05:18 pm Link

Photographer

Mike Kelcher

Posts: 13322

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

I've done this a few times and have one pic on MM and another on OMP that may be similar to what you're talking about.  As a photographer, I make it clear that we're all here to get pictures, and I'm not here to photograph people having sex.  Once that's established, I feel the results of the images are better and the shoot is usually more fun.

Despite the lack of penetration, things can still get a little steamy, especially since that's what we're trying to create the illusion of.  So, a guy's flag may wave.  Expect that, accept that, and don't make a big deal out of it and things will usually go just fine.

However, some people aren't as concerned about the images as I am.  For me, it's all about the images.  For some, it's about nakedness, watching, and hopefully participating.  You gotta trust who you're working with...and if I were a feamale model, ain't no way in hell I'd go alone, and the person I'd go with would be providing confirmation of "all ok" via cell phone to a third party (not there) at least every 15 mins.
Some people don't know what "no" means.

Good Luck!  Send me some pix.  :smile

May 14 06 05:24 pm Link

Photographer

George Diego Photo

Posts: 293

Leander, Texas, US

Jesus, it's like going to an art museum with a bunch of 4th graders. I can almost hear the Beevis and Butthead-like giggles after you asked your question. Way to go, "professionals!"

I think its completely possible to shoot a "simulated" sex scene that is erotic but not pornographic. Its all about camera angles and lighting in my opinion. A simulated sex scene could be shot with the models still wearing undewear if postioned correctly. Underwear that is very unobtrusive/flesh toned could even be photoshopped out (I've done this before) if you prefer to not be 100% naked. There is also "strapless" adhesive underwear that is available. It's used in soap opera's/movie sets all the time.

Simulated sex scenes are seen in everything from Hollywood movies to print ads, to product packaging. Yes, it can even be art. We quickly forget that passion is just as powerful an emotion as anger or joy (which no one seems to have a problem photographing). There's no shame in it if done professionally and with purpose.

That being said, you still have to be choosy and careful, just like you would for any shoot. Does the other model have experience? Have you conferred with him to see how HE is going to approach this? You should both be completely comfortable, nothing ruins a passionate/erotic photo more than akward looking models. From your post I'm going to assume that you are comfortable with the general set-up and just wanted tips.  Go for it and let us know how it turned out.

-Geo

May 14 06 05:31 pm Link

Model

Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Wynd Mulysa wrote:

Yay!  I was getting yelled at for using the word "vag" a couple days ago.
I'm happy about your choice of words.

Uhm he was being facetious.

May 14 06 05:36 pm Link

Photographer

DezLand Studios

Posts: 155

San Antonio, Florida, US

UnoMundo Photography wrote:
get a couple that has been married more than 5 years  - that is simulated sex!

HEY!...lol

May 14 06 11:58 pm Link

Photographer

Farenell Photography

Posts: 18832

Albany, New York, US

UnoMundo Photography wrote:
get a couple that has been married more than 5 years  - that is simulated sex!

Edit: Damn! RoninDarou got to it first. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

May 15 06 12:20 pm Link

Model

Claire Elizabeth

Posts: 1550

Exton, Pennsylvania, US

Sounds like someone just wants attention.

May 15 06 12:26 pm Link

Photographer

Kdakmmt

Posts: 25

Fairbanks, Alaska, US

I was just wondering how many of those hot sex scenes in movies are actually a guy wearing a sex diaper....lol

May 15 06 01:37 pm Link

Photographer

Vivus Hussein Denuo

Posts: 64211

New York, New York, US

DigitalCMH wrote:
I was curious enough about this while watching porn on cable.  I noticed the positions were not quite right for penetration.  But then I saw one where they were in the "doggie" style position and the way he was pounding her, there just was NO WAY hey can't be doing it.  The guy would be jabbin' his "tool" into her leg, butt, or...well, you know.  And this is totally TMI, but it HURTs when you miss and you get jammed/bent.  Sooooo....I started doing a slow play...and what I saw was, the "actor" was still wearing a condom, however, he was completely limp.  With it hanging limp, there was no danger of hurting himself and they could bump uglies all they wanted.

I don't recall where I read this, but I heard they don't always edit porn for cable.  Instead, they'll reshoot the scene.  My guess is, they do the REAL porn first.  Then after the actor is spend and limp, they redo the scene like how I just described.

Ok, sorry for my choice of words and the TMI stuff.

God Bless.

That makes sense and corresponds to what I learned, that adult producers sometimes make two versions, an explicit version for DVD sales (you see sex organs in action) and a cable version where you don't actually see the genitalia doing any thing, but the actors seem to be having sex.  In those 2-version shoots, of course, the actors are indeed having sex, it's not simulated.  But as others have posted, in other situations, there's no sex.  It's only simulated.

May 15 06 01:50 pm Link

Photographer

John Dorothy

Posts: 30

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Just do it and tell the rest of us what happened. Trying is always easier than negotiating with yourself...

May 15 06 06:21 pm Link

Photographer

American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

I'm glad to see that a model can ask such a serious question and get such serious answers.

May 15 06 08:05 pm Link

Photographer

nathan harris

Posts: 99

Nashville, Tennessee, US

sounds like a porn shoot to me. and if it is then "simulated sex" in those terms means that he puts his wang close to your mouth, vagina, anus, whichever but never actually puts it in you. you both make faces like it feels really good, then he strokes himself off and you have to have more pictures taken with his stuff on you.

May 15 06 08:16 pm Link

Photographer

Brandon Ching

Posts: 2028

Brooklyn, New York, US

DigitalCMH wrote:
they could bump uglies all they wanted.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

May 15 06 08:25 pm Link

Photographer

jon mmmayhem

Posts: 8233

Philadelphia, Mississippi, US

are the people suggesting "why simulate it, why not just go ahead and do it" serious??

May 17 06 02:14 am Link