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Stans Digital Photos
Posts: 173
Lovington, New Mexico, US
Why do some models think that posing and flipping "bird" is photo worthy? It is neither artistic or creative. Getting really tired of seeing models, especially new models doing this and thinking that it helps their portfolio.
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Jay Dezelic
Posts: 5029
Seattle, Washington, US
Do you mean these kinds of shots? They were just eating out of my hand. I didn't mean to flip them.
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MMDesign
Posts: 18647
Louisville, Kentucky, US
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AshGolgotha
Posts: 39
San Francisco, California, US
Jay Dezelic wrote: They were just eating out of my hand. I didn't mean to flip them. BIRD FLIPPER!
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Rich Mohr
Posts: 1843
Chicago, Illinois, US
Damn that Johnny Cash for starting the trend!!!!
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spyro2122
Posts: 760
Orlando, Florida, US
I flip my bird she's so silly. but yeah giving the bird in pics can be alittle much, imo.
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Mark Reese Photography
Posts: 21622
Brandon, Florida, US
spyro2122 wrote: I flip my bird she's so silly. but yeah giving the bird in pics can be alittle much, imo. I agree spyro.
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ADG Photography
Posts: 544
Calhoun, Georgia, US
Rich Mohr wrote: Damn that Johnny Cash for starting the trend!!!! That photo of Mr Cash flinging the bird (if it is the same one to which you refer) is one of my favorite editorial photos of all time! I think it is really cool, actually. When that photo was taken, I suppose it was really a big deal to be doing that sort of thing. Now it is getting kind of old, but I still think with the proper model and setting it can be pulled off. It is just not easy to do.
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MMDesign
Posts: 18647
Louisville, Kentucky, US
ADG Photography wrote:
That photo of Mr Cash flinging the bird (if it is the same one to which you refer) is one of my favorite editorial photos of all time! I think it is really cool, actually. When that photo was taken, I suppose it was really a big deal to be doing that sort of thing. Now it is getting kind of old, but I still think with the proper model and setting it can be pulled off. It is just not easy to do. Jim Marshall took that shot of Cash when he was performing at San Quentin. During a sound check, Marshall said to him "let's do a shot for the warden".
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Alex Mercatali
Posts: 453
Forlì, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
Stans Digital Photos wrote: Why do some models think that posing and flipping "bird" is photo worthy? It is neither artistic or creative. Getting really tired of seeing models, especially new models doing this and thinking that it helps their portfolio. It all depends on when, who, why. And if you're tired, why you still look at them? I'm completely stuffed of tit&ass bikini shot, but I don't go bashing who do that kind of photos...
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Marcus J. Ranum
Posts: 3247
MORRISDALE, Pennsylvania, US
Stans Digital Photos wrote: It is neither artistic or creative. Getting really tired of seeing models, especially new models doing this and thinking that it helps their portfolio. Wow, I am so glad that we have the ultimate arbiter of art and creativity here on ModelMayhem!! Thanks for taking the time to speak ex cathedra!! Tell us more, please! mjr.
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Sirensong
Posts: 2173
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
Meh. I think it depends on who is doing it and why and then again who is looking at it. Yes there will be people who dont like it and yes there will be people that do. Some of us have done it because we are taking the mickey a bit..and thats a yes..I do have one its just not on my port here Personally if I see another model sitting on a wicker chair/sprinkled with rose petals thinking it will help her portfolio I will scream so everyones tastes differ and thats the point. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean THEY dont and others wont. Same with every single pose and prop going. Its occasionally fun to see how many cliches you can rip the crap out of in one pic.
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Stans Digital Photos
Posts: 173
Lovington, New Mexico, US
Sirensong wrote: Meh. I think it depends on who is doing it and why and then again who is looking at it. Yes there will be people who dont like it and yes there will be people that do. Some of us have done it because we are taking the mickey a bit..and thats a yes..I do have one its just not on my port here Personally if I see another model sitting on a wicker chair/sprinkled with rose petals thinking it will help her portfolio I will scream so everyones tastes differ and thats the point. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean THEY dont and others wont. Same with every single pose and prop going. Its occasionally fun to see how many cliches you can rip the crap out of in one pic.
At least with this one someone gave a little forethought - background, hair, makeup, etc. So, this one I can understand. However, standing in a livingroom and flipping the bird at the camera. That does not even come close to saying anything. You want to make a statement then at least give some idea as to who, what, or why your flipping the bird. i.e. - pick up the phone, flip the bird at it and have the caption read "Damn Telemarketers!"; or "If my boyfriend could only see me now...
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ChristerArt
Posts: 2861
Cambridge, England, United Kingdom
Stans Digital Photos wrote: Why do some models think that posing and flipping "bird" is photo worthy? It is neither artistic or creative. Getting really tired of seeing models, especially new models doing this and thinking that it helps their portfolio. Ummm, let's compare portfolios and comments on images and then talk about artistry, ok? I guess there are those on MM who think different... Right now MM is working on pics so you can't read the comments so far on this image by some photogs/models here on MM, but you can see it on my site - WARNING 18+ - and yes, Kate's flipping me the bird: http://www.ChristerArt.com/Kate/web%20l … _a1web.jpg I've never understood people doing these broad generalizations. If there is one French movie you don't like, does that mean you won't see another one or read a French author?
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ADG Photography
Posts: 544
Calhoun, Georgia, US
MMDesign wrote:
Jim Marshall took that shot of Cash when he was performing at San Quentin. During a sound check, Marshall said to him "let's do a shot for the warden". Thanks. I didn't know the story behind that photo. LOL--I love it even more now that I know the "reason" behind it! PERFECT!! Alan
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