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Photographer

Stans Digital Photos

Posts: 173

Lovington, New Mexico, US

Why do some models think that posing and flipping "bird" is photo
worthy? It is neither artistic or creative. Getting really tired of
seeing models, especially new models doing this and thinking that
it helps their portfolio.

May 09 06 03:58 pm Link

Model

Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

Do you mean these kinds of shots? They were just eating out of my hand.  I didn't mean to flip them. smile

https://www.jdez.com/models/jaydezelic/img/remote/0506/DSC_6211.jpg

May 09 06 04:44 pm Link

Photographer

MMDesign

Posts: 18647

Louisville, Kentucky, US

:-)

May 09 06 04:49 pm Link

Photographer

AshGolgotha

Posts: 39

San Francisco, California, US

Jay Dezelic wrote:
They were just eating out of my hand.  I didn't mean to flip them. smile

BIRD FLIPPER!

May 09 06 08:04 pm Link

Photographer

Twisted Light

Posts: 362

Miami, Florida, US

That is the best jay.

May 09 06 08:10 pm Link

Photographer

Rich Mohr

Posts: 1843

Chicago, Illinois, US

Damn that Johnny Cash for starting the trend!!!! tongue

May 09 06 08:11 pm Link

Model

spyro2122

Posts: 760

Orlando, Florida, US

I flip my bird she's so silly.

but yeah giving the bird in pics can be alittle much, imo.

May 09 06 08:12 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Reese Photography

Posts: 21622

Brandon, Florida, US

spyro2122 wrote:
I flip my bird she's so silly.

but yeah giving the bird in pics can be alittle much, imo.

I agree spyro.

May 09 06 08:15 pm Link

Photographer

ADG Photography

Posts: 544

Calhoun, Georgia, US

Rich Mohr wrote:
Damn that Johnny Cash for starting the trend!!!! tongue

That photo of Mr Cash flinging the bird (if it is the same one to which you refer) is one of my favorite editorial photos of all time!  I think it is really cool, actually. When that photo was taken, I suppose it was really a big deal to be doing that sort of thing.  Now it is getting kind of old, but I still think with the proper model and setting it can be pulled off. It is just not easy to do.

May 09 06 08:41 pm Link

Photographer

MMDesign

Posts: 18647

Louisville, Kentucky, US

ADG Photography wrote:

That photo of Mr Cash flinging the bird (if it is the same one to which you refer) is one of my favorite editorial photos of all time!  I think it is really cool, actually. When that photo was taken, I suppose it was really a big deal to be doing that sort of thing.  Now it is getting kind of old, but I still think with the proper model and setting it can be pulled off. It is just not easy to do.

Jim Marshall took that shot of Cash when he was performing at San Quentin. During a sound check, Marshall said to him "let's do a shot for the warden".

May 10 06 07:29 am Link

Photographer

Alex Mercatali

Posts: 453

Forlì, Emilia-Romagna, Italy

Stans Digital Photos wrote:
Why do some models think that posing and flipping "bird" is photo
worthy? It is neither artistic or creative. Getting really tired of
seeing models, especially new models doing this and thinking that
it helps their portfolio.

It all depends on when, who, why.

And if you're tired, why you still look at them? yikes

I'm completely stuffed of tit&ass bikini shot, but I don't go bashing who do that kind of photos...

May 10 06 07:35 am Link

Photographer

Marcus J. Ranum

Posts: 3247

MORRISDALE, Pennsylvania, US

Stans Digital Photos wrote:
It is neither artistic or creative. Getting really tired of
seeing models, especially new models doing this and thinking that
it helps their portfolio.

Wow, I am so glad that we have the ultimate arbiter of art and creativity here on ModelMayhem!! Thanks for taking the time to speak ex cathedra!! Tell us more, please!

mjr.

May 10 06 07:47 am Link

Model

Sirensong

Posts: 2173

Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Meh.
I think it depends on who is doing it and why and then again who is looking at it.
Yes there will be people who dont like it and yes there will be people that do.
Some of us have done it because we are taking the mickey a bit..and thats a yes..I do have one its just not on my port here big_smile


Personally if I see another model sitting on a wicker chair/sprinkled with rose petals thinking it will help her portfolio I will scream tongue so everyones tastes differ and thats the point.

Just because you dont like it doesnt mean THEY dont and others wont.
Same with every single pose and prop going.

Its occasionally fun to see how many cliches you can rip the crap out of in one pic.
https://www.net-model.com/UserImages/32006/32220061868-57413b.JPG

May 10 06 08:13 am Link

Photographer

Stans Digital Photos

Posts: 173

Lovington, New Mexico, US

Sirensong wrote:
Meh.
I think it depends on who is doing it and why and then again who is looking at it.
Yes there will be people who dont like it and yes there will be people that do.
Some of us have done it because we are taking the mickey a bit..and thats a yes..I do have one its just not on my port here big_smile


Personally if I see another model sitting on a wicker chair/sprinkled with rose petals thinking it will help her portfolio I will scream tongue so everyones tastes differ and thats the point.

Just because you dont like it doesnt mean THEY dont and others wont.
Same with every single pose and prop going.

Its occasionally fun to see how many cliches you can rip the crap out of in one pic.
https://www.net-model.com/UserImages/32006/32220061868-57413b.JPG

At least with this one someone gave a little forethought - background, hair,
makeup, etc. So, this one I can understand. However, standing in a livingroom
and flipping the bird at the camera. That does not even come close to saying
anything. You want to make a statement then at least give some idea as to
who, what, or why your flipping the bird. i.e. - pick up the phone, flip the bird
at it and have the caption read "Damn Telemarketers!"; or "If my boyfriend could
only see me now...

May 10 06 12:50 pm Link

Photographer

ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

Stans Digital Photos wrote:
Why do some models think that posing and flipping "bird" is photo
worthy? It is neither artistic or creative. Getting really tired of
seeing models, especially new models doing this and thinking that
it helps their portfolio.

Ummm, let's compare portfolios and comments on images and then talk about artistry, ok?

I guess there are those on MM who think different...

Right now MM is working on pics so you can't read the comments so far on this image by some photogs/models here on MM, but you can see it on my site - WARNING 18+ - and yes, Kate's flipping me the bird:

http://www.ChristerArt.com/Kate/web%20l … _a1web.jpg

I've never understood people doing these broad generalizations. If there is one French movie you don't like, does that mean you won't see another one or read a French author?

May 10 06 01:16 pm Link

Photographer

ADG Photography

Posts: 544

Calhoun, Georgia, US

MMDesign wrote:

Jim Marshall took that shot of Cash when he was performing at San Quentin. During a sound check, Marshall said to him "let's do a shot for the warden".

Thanks.  I didn't know the story behind that photo.  LOL--I love it even more now that I know the "reason" behind it!  PERFECT!!

Alan

May 10 06 07:48 pm Link