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Just how dangerous is modeling - really?
I have read a lot of posts about how dangerous modeling is for models. I'd love to know the actual statistics on how often a model is injured on shoots, compared to how many shoot occur where there are no incidents. Don't get me wrong. I'm in full support of caution, and I encourage bring an escort if the model desires, but my gut tells me that modeling is more scary than dangerous. May 08 06 01:34 pm Link I don't think anyone keeps authoratative figures on what you are asking. Any response you get will be anecdotal. May 08 06 01:36 pm Link Its not dangerous as long as the model does her homework. Believe me when I started I had some situations that I still cannot believe I got out of but not I know better. I ask a million and one questions ahead of time, check references, and if there is anything even remotely strange I bring an escort. May 08 06 01:37 pm Link My anecdotal response: modeling is as dangerous as crossing the street. Take the proper precautions, and you will probably not get run over. May 08 06 01:37 pm Link How dangerous is it to cut vegetables? How dangerous is it to be a doctor with all those medical instruments and diseases and toxins? How dangerous is it to cross the street? How dangerous is it to drive? Ride the bus? Subway? Train? Plane? Boat? How dangerous is it to eat alone where if you choke no one will be around to help? How dangerous is it to be a school teacher with those sharp pencils and scissors? How dangerous is it to be an interior decorator when you have to go to people's homes alone? How dangerous is it to be a mechanic? I want to know those statistics, too!!  May 08 06 01:37 pm Link YeagerVision wrote: Yes, it's more scary than dangerous. I have never had a problem, but I'm always cautious. The reason you see so many posts about how dangerous it is is because a model has to be cautious. People will post bad experciences they had all over the place because they want others to be aware, but it's rare to see a post about how GREAT a shoot went. May 08 06 01:37 pm Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: Hahahahahhaa...we answered at the same time...funny we would both pick the same analogy. May 08 06 01:38 pm Link its pretty dangerous to be this sexy ; ) no really..I was walking to the 7-eleven and a guy was staring at me so hard he ran into the phone pole..hahaha sucka! May 08 06 01:39 pm Link oopsie poopsie...double post May 08 06 01:40 pm Link Its not dangerous until you are the ONE that something happens to. Glad to see that the models here know to investigate before the shoot. I had a model show up for a shoot with her husband. Once she saw it was a legitimate shoot - he left. May 08 06 01:42 pm Link The most dangerous professions are fishing and farming. Don't do either of those! On the other hand, I doubt that fishermen or farmers get hit on all that much. May 08 06 01:44 pm Link Vivus Denuo wrote: Getting hit on is inappropriate, annoying and perhaps the possible first step toward a bad situation, but doesn't equate to danger or harm. Neither does having nude shots 'sneaked' and posted, or having a photographer try to press the model into doing something which surpasses their agreement. May 08 06 02:53 pm Link I think doing research before going on a shoot is definately helpful. I don't usually ask for references, but I haven't had a problem before (thankfully). I do, however, generally only work with photographers who have worked with many models before and have positive feedback on their MM profile (so I guess it's a reference of sorts). I have had some photographers contact me before who gave me a bad vibe, or made me feel uncomfortable. Obviously, if you pursue such shoots, you do it at your own risk. If you're working with a photographer who doesn't have shoots planned back-to-back and has no free time, sometimes meeting over coffee or a drink (assuming you're in the same locality) can be beneficial, both to the peace of mind and to the creative energies (it helps to discuss shoot ideas in person beforehand). May 08 06 02:55 pm Link Modeling is very safe with very few and very rare exceptions. I'd say modeling would statistically be far safer than driving. May 08 06 03:03 pm Link Vivus Denuo wrote: Woah, I better make sure my liability ins. is up to date before I do that fishing on a farm shoot... May 08 06 03:04 pm Link I cant say that modeling is all that dangerous...as long as you do your research on each project and each photographer then you should be alright! But going into any situation blindly can be dangerous...the point is danger can be avoided by knowledge! May 08 06 03:05 pm Link Gary Davis wrote: LOL. Check your local statutes. It's illegal to shoot sharks from a tractor in some states. May 08 06 03:11 pm Link MODELLING IS VERY DANGEROUS AND CAN ADVERSLY AFFECT YOUR HEALTH. It is the only job on the planet where you are paid not to think. Do it for a short time and you can have fun , meet people and travel the world..... Do it exclusively for too long and the old adage "use it or loose it" will apply to your brain cells. Have any of you ever listened to interviews with "top models" who have been at the job for decades....??? Have any of you had to spend more than an hour in the presence of a male model who has been doing the job for two decades....????? People with full frontal lobotomies make for more interesting conversation. May 08 06 05:32 pm Link Dangerous? well - usually not but being vulnerable and having a manic hold unknown / unflattering naked pics of you isnt a good combination! May 08 06 06:03 pm Link take an escort when nude informal arrangement with new people or shoot with an other model - i suggest dont let them lock the door dont let them restrain you unplanned sign the release FIRSTand make sure its legal. NB if the models you contact are too nervous or inexperienced to say that the guy was a creep all the homework in the world wont help & If his work looks good and he writes many friendly e-mails that dont seem wrong...he has a sense of humonur, makes fair / generous offers, thats sometimes called grooming!! # it happened to me - coming to USA as the man i loved here was sick and had no one to care for him. I missed him, worried, so spent $2500 to fly to LA and see him. He then imagined things ..due to his state of mind/health.. and kicked me out. My ticket didnt even allow me to leave until after 1 month so Despite being fussy about where I went i had no choice but to go somewhere and several photographers mostly GREAT people offerred to put a traveling model up - in return for TFP. (I had spent all I had to come be with this guy so i used what i had left). Great images too - except this one guy and his attitude. He was filty, his place was disgusting, he creeped me out, threatened me and other people and really upset me, but i held it together I should have left sooner but by in the shoot he'd locked me in . he wouldnt take no for an answer on anything and was really disrespectful re nudity. He even tried to put cuffs on me while I am clearly telling him WE ARE DONE NOW. All the time remember I'm naked and dont have access to my clothes - let alone my suitcases !! I had to run out making an excuse to get away ... completely homeless long story there too BUT photo wise that's when the problems started! I was ok But he posted nasty stuff and naked photos on the net using my real (not model) name I had treid to keep things pleasent after ward just to GET those pictures and I did *phew* but they were pretty terrible (this guy gets some good ones... compltely by volume i think. and is great at photoshop) PS In this case he delayed signing - so in fact published with no release that WAS the only way i got him to take stuff about me down - when lawyers wrote to him I also confronted the other gal whom all admited they had a bad time with him but didnt s ay so on referrals as intimidated OR thought it was their own fault. pps Hes still around though & hes on HERE Now! Others may have a great time with him ..(yeah right) & if he acted better and worked on the photos there would be no problem even though he was leering and calling the gals names and I saw him make a Dominatrix SPIT with fury lol but you dont know someone's charadter until you piss them off right? Just be careful of weirdos with egos! May 08 06 06:03 pm Link Anjel Britt wrote: have you ever considered writing for playboy magazine? May 08 06 06:13 pm Link YeagerVision wrote: Ok, I'm reading this right from the national model stats clock right next to the current temperature sign in Times Square. Since I started writing this reply, 1 model has been killed... No, wait. Make that 2 models have been killed and 15 have been... Ok, it just updated again. 3 models have been killed and 25 have been assaulted. No, it's is now 4 killed and 43 assaulted, just since I started... Crap, there it goes again. Chalk up another dead one, 57 assaulted, and 148 groped. At this rate they're run out of models by about 3 AM... May 08 06 07:02 pm Link Porchia wrote: You get to go to the head of the class and get an extra dessert at lunch. May 08 06 07:06 pm Link Dave Krueger wrote: how does that help? May 08 06 07:07 pm Link Dave Krueger wrote: Why does it have to violence and death to constitute a danger problem... danger to the soul... heart and mind comes in many guises...!! May 08 06 07:08 pm Link Anjel Britt wrote: Dave Krueger wrote: how does that help? It helps by alerting people to the fact that they're taking some posts too seriously. But it only helps those who really want to be helped deep down in their very soul. Or it could just be meaningless drivel. May 08 06 07:14 pm Link photofashion wrote: There's writing in Playboy? Why wasn't I told? May 08 06 07:15 pm Link YeagerVision wrote: I have had a few model friends go on shoots that didn't end up being at all what they described, so they left. They went there with or without an escort. May 08 06 07:18 pm Link Dave Krueger wrote: Dave, I used to say I'm the only American male who actually read Playboy. I did! I first read Isaac Bashevis Singer and Arthur C. Clark in Playboy. I read the interviews with Malcolm X, George Lincoln Rockwell, Jimmy Carter, etc., etc. I read the jokes, the cartoons, the Playboy Advisor, etc. I would have read more but the pages stuck together a lot. May 08 06 07:46 pm Link It seems like between the areas of Baltimore, Washington, and Richmond every other year a model gets murdered. I might be little biased because the last victim was a girl that my daughter knew, a Virginia Commonwealt University art student originally from my area (Washington DC suburbs). These incidents I'm talking about are the worst ones that that make the local news. How many incidents of rape or other forms of violence happen that don't make the news or that are never reported. Who knows? I would say that there are many more incidents of child abductions than violence against models. I don't know if that puts it in perspective. I think that if a model does her homework and checks out the guy if only by positively establishing his identity and address the risk goes down to an acceptable level. Let's say an evening jog in your average, quiet, middle-class neighborhood in your area. I'm talking about serious assult and not being hit on. I understand that models try to avoid that as well. The risk of that, from reading MM, is about 90%. May 08 06 08:41 pm Link i wanst in danger by the photographer, but afterwards.i accompanied a freind to a shoot,and the photographer didnt alow my boyfriend to go so i didnt let him. it was a shaddy area and getting dark. the photog was fine, not creepy or intimidating. some of his friends showed up and my friend was doing partial nudes. they staired, but the photog didnt make them leave, until she was about to do full nudes. well i guess after they waited around for us to get out, and they tried blocking our car doors so we couldnt leave, and tried putting their arms on us to bring us with them, they said they were going out to the bar and wanted to buy us drinks, i was 17! she was ok with it, but i started getting pissed off and scared, forced them out of the way, grabed her and took off.. they followed, so i pulled int a police station, they got the hint and left. it want the photog that made it dangerous, just the fact that we were "models" i guess.... i was so pissed she would put me in that situation and be ok with it... so yes it can be dangerous May 08 06 09:00 pm Link Right now I live in the south. In the South it is easy to get a legal permit to carry a concealed pistol. I escort my models to their cars with my .40 cal Glock 22 in a fanny pack. Out on location it is always attached to me. If a photographer is going to want you to pose nude he should be prepared to protect you. I have had only one occasion to pull my weapon. The model was not nude but we were in a pool house and it was surrounded by windows. The windows had creeps looking in and giving cat calls. This we ignored. Then we heard some banging. I pushed her into the bathroom and drew my weapon only to find it was a cop. Seems someone complained about the morons at the window. However, when we left to go to her car the morons just stared. They did not say a word. They knew the fanny pack had a serpent in it. I will not let something bad happen to one of my models if I can help it. May 09 06 03:43 am Link Taray Jennings wrote: There goes all the potential business from models on here who are scared of guns,lol. May 09 06 03:46 am Link Funny...in middle school all the kids who wore fanny packs got beaten up every day. Is this fanny karma? May 09 06 03:47 am Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: well it was pretty debatable for the chicken!! May 09 06 04:24 am Link Not dangerous at all. I have a great track record, haven't lost any models yet. May 09 06 04:27 am Link photofashion wrote: That's what I was thinking May 09 06 05:13 am Link I haven't ever had anything bad happen to me. I did meet a shady photographer once that offered to pay my way to where he lived and I did it. He wanted to get nasty pics. It didn't turn out so great, but not bad either. I knew better, I just didn't listen. I thought, what if it turned out okay. And thankfully it did, no pictures have surfaced on the net, I got paid what I was promised. No harm befelt me, it was okay. Now I bring someone along each and every time. Even if I have worked with a photographer in the past. I just read about some guy being on OMP and posing as a photographer... yeah so I'm not going to set myself up for that. The victims play a part in their own demise, as people we have to be smart enought to not play the role of the victim. Out of all the photographers I have worked with.. one was shady and I would never recommend to anyone, another one was creepy but nice, the rest were perfectly fine.. so I mean, you just have to research like everyone says... May 09 06 05:19 am Link YeagerVision wrote: It's as dangerous as anything else in life. I suspect that the most danger any model is in during a shoot is on the trip there and back in her car. May 09 06 06:20 am Link *sigh* Cameras don't hurt people, people do. May 09 06 06:26 am Link |
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