KuttingEdge  wrote:

Jose Deida wrote:
Just tell em you use Lucis Art,DCE ReDynaMix and or Topaz labs.

KuttingEdge  wrote:
I challenge anyone using that plugin to show me an image that looks like mine if thats your insinuation. I'm well versed in photoshop and the entire adobe suite. No one with these plugins will make images that will look like mine. Those plugins produce a lot of "noise" on the images and are easily recognized.

Those cheap plugins don't look nothing like this self portrait. There is nothing HDR about this image.



I took my own challenge and downloaded that "Lucas art" trial plugin. With a click of the plugin it produced this. So if Jose and others think I'm use plugins for my work I'll be in business for a long time = )

A slice of oblivion wrote:
Your work isn't HDR and your grammar needs some help

True, I guess I need to spell check when I'm in the middle of a heated debate. Thanks for the heads up meng!

Select Models wrote:
Stay away from HDR

That's right boys and girls... stay away from HDR so Mr. KE can use it exclusively...

Yup true, I see u can use some help cutting images out. I offer tuts if you wish.

KuttingEdge  wrote:

Yup true, I see u can use some help cutting images out. I offer tuts if you wish.

Watch the unsolicited critiques! They could get you brigged...

KuttingEdge  wrote:
Yup true, I see u can use some help cutting images out. I offer tuts if you wish.

Dude you are so full of yourself and your work is nothing new it has been done over a million times.

ImagesRetouched wrote:

Watch the unsolicited critiques! They could get you brigged...

I've never been "brigged" before and not sure what that is yet. I know in the Marines it meant "locked up". Someone accusing me of something in my artwork when I take a stong stance against it is an unsolicted critique to me, that was how I took it and flaws were obvious at 1st glance so I called it. I apologize to the "higher ups"

KuttingEdge  wrote:

I offer tuts if you wish.

No thanks... don't want anyone farting at my place...

KillerShotz Photography wrote:

Dude you are so full of yourself and your work is nothing new it has been done over a million times.

Yes I am full of myself, thanks

KillerShotz Photography wrote:
Do you even know what HDR is?

Your work is not HDR.

Hello thats why I'm fighting this thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KuttingEdge  wrote:
Hello thats why I'm fighting this thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucis Art is not HDR either. So I don't know why you posted Lucis as an example.


HDR is combining images that have diferent exposures.

You can't just take one image and make it HDR.


Do you know what HDR is? HDR is not a pluggin

KillerShotz Photography wrote:

Lucis Art is not HDR either. So I don't know why you posted Lucis as an example.

HDR is combining images that have diferent exposures.

I was under the assumption that these plugins "mimicked" the end result of HDR, in other words the end result was the same. I don't do either but am accused of it.

KuttingEdge  wrote:
I was under the assumption that these plugins "mimicked" the end result of HDR, in other words the end result was the same. I don't do either but am accused of it.

No those pluggins do not mimick HDR.

HDR is taking diferent images at diferent exposures and combining them to get a higher dynamic range. Not possible from one single image.


I would say if you don't know what HDR is to not make a thread about it and the post something that is obviously not a HDR example it makes you look foolish.

Select Models wrote:
No thanks... don't want anyone farting at my place...

ROFL !!
Perfect for this thread.

"Hello thats why I'm fighting this thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Fighting HDR ?
Nothing like a good cause, maybe bumperstickers ?

We can only hope this is a joke.

AJ Garcia wrote:
Umm, I just read all of this. What is this thread all about. I dont get what your purpose is. Not to use HDR? Do you really know what HDR is? I think about 80 percent of people who use the phrase dont actually know what it really is.

The purpose of this thread is to fight my passion for my art. I was being accused of using HDR or shortcut plugins in another thread so I lashed out in this one. I do feel that HDR is a fad and will go away though. It will be replaced by something else I'm sure.

KillerShotz Photography wrote:
Lucis Art is not HDR either. So I don't know why you posted Lucis as an example.


HDR is combining images that have diferent exposures.

You can't just take one image and make it HDR.

you can if you change the exposure values of the image but its not real HDR. I have done humans in true HDR many times it aint easy but its doable.. hell i even have my dog in HDR just for shits to prove a point.. 99% of my HDR is AEB hand held images.. here is another bad example of a 3 image HDR hand held with a ton of lucis.. notice how it doesnt look like it was puked up by a stray cat in an alley full of homeless urine...

And here is a single image VERY lucised shot of eden muse

KuttingEdge  wrote:

The purpose of this thread is to fight my passion for my art. I was being accused of using HDR or shortcut plugins in another thread so I lashed out in this one. I do feel that HDR is a fad and will go away though. It will be replaced by something else I'm sure.

HDR has been used for years and is mostly used in 99% of the time in landscapes and Architecture. I doubt it will go away.

I ask again do you know what HDR is

KuttingEdge  wrote:

The purpose of this thread is to fight my passion for my art. I was being accused of using HDR or shortcut plugins in another thread so I lashed out in this one. I do feel that HDR is a fad and will go away though. It will be replaced by something else I'm sure.

You fight your passion boy !! That'll take you far

Why concern yourself with something you have nothing to do with?
Whoever "accused" you must have rocks in their head , at best.

Alfiere wrote:

you can if you change the exposure values of the image but its not real HDR. I have done humans in true HDR many times it aint easy but its doable.. hell i even have my dog in HDR just for shits to prove a point.. 99% of my HDR is AEB hand held images.. here is another bad example of a 3 image HDR hand held with a ton of lucis.. notice how it doesnt look like it was puked up by a stray cat in an alley full of homeless urine...

And here is a single image VERY lucised shot of eden muse

Those are really cool, the detail is sweet!

Alfiere wrote:
you can if you change the exposure values of the image but its not real HDR. I have done humans in true HDR many times it aint easy but its doable.. hell i even have my dog in HDR just for shits to prove a point.. 99% of my HDR is AEB hand held images.. here is another bad example of a 3 image HDR hand held with a ton of lucis.. notice how it doesnt look like it was puked up by a stray cat in an alley full of homeless urine...

And here is a single image VERY lucised shot of eden muse

I'm just trying to make a point to the OP that he obviosuly doesn't know what HDR is and to make him understand that a simple pluggin won't make an image HDR.

Its a fad and will pass.

Alex I believe you are wrong on this one because as you probabely know Ansel Adams used the Zone system but HDR beets this hands done.
All mayor camera manufacturers are working in building this into ther cameras.
Think about a person shot in ambient light with 7 stops of different lightings. No more a lots of lights just one all highlights and shadows are right there and that at 14 or more bits. It is the future

KillerShotz Photography wrote:

HDR has been used for years and is mostly used in 99% of the time in landscapes and Architecture. I doubt it will go away.

I ask again do you know what HDR is

Aside from what I read on the net I would have to answer no as I have no anecdotal experience.

KuttingEdge  wrote:

I was under the assumption that these plugins "mimicked" the end result of HDR, in other words the end result was the same. I don't do either but am accused of it.

Yeah that just a wrong assumption.  they might trick people who do not know what they are looking at but the end result is no where near the same.

KuttingEdge  wrote:

The purpose of this thread is to fight my passion for my art. I was being accused of using HDR or shortcut plugins in another thread so I lashed out in this one. I do feel that HDR is a fad and will go away though. It will be replaced by something else I'm sure.

Haha, people have accused me of using HDR in some of my images. So what, get over it. And once again, most people who say that dont know what HDR is anyways. The only person you should be defending your art to is yourself. The moment you have to go and publicly lash out at people about them categorizing your art is when you have a problem. I bet your not the only person that has this issue.

Ask how many fine art nude photographers have had their stuff classified as "porn". Your always going to have naysayers. You now hating on a certain style just because everyone accuses you of using it is wasted energy. You should be using that energy to just continue your art.

KillerShotz Photography wrote:

I'm just trying to make a point to the OP that he obviosuly doesn't know what HDR is that a simple pluggin won't make an image HDR.

i know i am just showing a few HDRs and some lucis,...i get ivolved because people dont know how to make HDR or use the plugins and they get a bad name.. they really have artistic uses if applied properly.. I could post true tond HDR's all day long of mine and people dont know its HDR in most cases.. i think this is silly but i had to slap a few up after i saw a RAW lucis filter on an image like some kind of example of its abilitys... not that mine are better just.. well different than what he showed..

AJ Garcia wrote:

Haha, people have accused me of using HDR in some of my images. So what, get over it. And once again, most people who say that dont know what HDR is anyways. The only person you should be defending your art to is yourself. The moment you have to go and publicly lash out at people about them categorizing your art is when you have a problem. I bet your not the only person that has this issue.

Ask how many fine art nude photographers have had their stuff classified as "porn". Your always going to have naysayers. You now hating on a certain style just because everyone accuses you of using it is wasted energy. You should be using that energy to just continue your art.

I have felt insulted many times when people commented my images "nice HDR". There I said it thats my kryptonite. The reason being is I had no respect for the real "HDR" process and was led to believe that others felt they could get my results by the "click of a mouse plugin" when I slaved hours on an image.

Alfiere wrote:
i know i am just showing a few HDRs and some lucis,...i get ivolved because people dont know how to make HDR or use the plugins and they get a bad name.. they really have artistic uses if applied properly.. I could post true tond HDR's all day long of mine and people dont know its HDR in most cases.. i think this is silly but i had to slap a few up after i saw a RAW lucis filter on an image like some kind of example of its abilitys... not that mine are better just.. well different than what he showed..

Lol Yeah well he used the trial version so I cannot believe he based his OP on the results of the trial Version which you can barely do anything. I myself like the Lucis look for certain things and if  the pluggin was cheaper I would definetely get it as the results are very good when you are trying to make ilustrations. etc.

KuttingEdge  wrote:
I have felt insulted many times when people commented my images "nice HDR". There I said it thats my kryptonite. The reason being is I had no respect for the real "HDR" process and was led to believe that others felt they could get my results by the "click of a mouse plugin" when I slaved hours on an image.

You have no respect for the HDR process? How can you have no respect for something you know so little about. I will say it again HDR is not clicking on a pluggin.

KuttingEdge  wrote:

I have felt insulted many times when people commented my images "nice HDR". There I said it thats my kryptonite. The reason being is I had no respect for the real "HDR" process and was led to believe that others felt they could get my results by the "click of a mouse plugin" when I slaved hours on an image.

just help me with this for a second... You are mad because some ignorant "persons" don't know what HDR looks like?

MinisterC  wrote:
That LucisArt image looks awesome.

You should use it more often.

Thanks when I'm old and retired I may do that. I want to get rich when I get old and yes have a page on MM to promote the plugin.

NewBoldPhoto wrote:

just help me with this for a second... You are mad because some ignorant "persons" don't know what HDR looks like?

I was mad because I didn't really know either and thought it was a shortcut to hard work.