Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > how to add a shiney look to pics

Photographer

j_forbes

Posts: 413

Portsmouth, England, United Kingdom

i,m taking some pics on a beach, but i want to add a shiney affect to my pics to help make them stand out, how can i do this,  so they have a glossy feel to them

private messages welcome.

Jun 04 09 03:34 am Link

Photographer

Daniel LaHaie

Posts: 326

Fairview, Oregon, US

Any chance you could post an example image of the effect you want? Would help us figure out the best way to help you out.

Jun 04 09 04:01 am Link

Retoucher

StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

To get a nicer shiny skin, start with oiling up the model smile

then dodge+burn tongue

Jun 04 09 04:04 am Link

Photographer

j_forbes

Posts: 413

Portsmouth, England, United Kingdom

something like putting a gloss affect over the entire picture,

Jun 04 09 04:10 am Link

Photographer

toan thai photography

Posts: 697

Montgomery Village, Maryland, US

dodge and burn. careful how you do it, it can look downright tacky like some of the crap i've seen in here.

Jun 04 09 05:14 am Link

Photographer

Rudy Render Photograph

Posts: 65

Sarasota, Florida, US

-Must add baby oil or some kind of an oil-solution to the skin.


-Dodge and Burn  (A highlights layer, and then a shadows layer)

Jun 04 09 05:22 am Link

Photographer

Dallas J. Logan

Posts: 2185

Los Angeles, California, US

Again.... LOL... I find Pond's Cold Cream to be the best skin sheen maker out there.... You can control the amount of sheen it produces from a simple moisturizer to an onslaught greasefest.  It also wets very well, doesn't try out the skin and you don't have to constantly keep reapplying it. 

Once you've applied it; shoot it, and do a lot of dodging and burning.

See example of shiny skin:

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3608/3572565292_4b5c27a22d_b.jpg

Jun 04 09 05:32 am Link

Retoucher

Solstice Retouch

Posts: 2779

New York, New York, US

Masked curve adjustment layer. One up, one down smile Then brush accordingly. Thank God for adjustment layers!

Jun 04 09 06:04 am Link

Model

Model 13

Posts: 5

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Max-Focus Photography wrote:
-Must add baby oil or some kind of an oil-solution to the skin.


-Dodge and Burn  (A highlights layer, and then a shadows layer)

Thanks for the tip.

Jun 04 09 10:51 am Link

Photographer

Kristen Tyler Photo

Posts: 57

Portland, Oregon, US

I've also used diffuse glow a couple times to help out. make a copy of your main layer, then run a diffuse glow on it, then apply layer mask and brush out what you don't want.

Jun 04 09 02:42 pm Link

Model

not on MM anymore 2010

Posts: 2515

Max-Focus Photography wrote:
-Must add baby oil or some kind of an oil-solution to the skin.


-Dodge and Burn  (A highlights layer, and then a shadows layer)

glycerin/water 50:50

Jun 04 09 02:43 pm Link

Retoucher

Michael Brittain

Posts: 2214

Wahiawa, Hawaii, US

Post hidden on Jun 04, 2009 07:29 pm
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No BS

Jun 04 09 02:50 pm Link

Photographer

D Magi Visual Concepts

Posts: 2077

Los Angeles, California, US

j_forbes wrote:
something like putting a gloss affect over the entire picture,

Glossy comes from the paper you use, or the monitor you're looking at; not the image itself.

Jun 04 09 02:53 pm Link

Photographer

MacLeod Designs

Posts: 3309

Mooresville, North Carolina, US

D Magi Visual Concepts wrote:

Glossy comes from the paper you use, or the monitor you're looking at; not the image itself.

i dont thnk the op is referring to that kind of gloss, moer shiny very reflective like  skin which is done by all the techniques previously stated

Jun 04 09 05:58 pm Link

Photographer

FashionPhotographer

Posts: 2521

New York, New York, US

Dodging and burning in post.

If you want to do it right, do it in camera.

Two products:

Coppertone Spray Sunblock
http://www.amazon.com/Coppertone-Sport- … 502&sr=8-1

Mango Body Butter
http://www.thebodyshop-usa.com/bodyshop … rod4010008

-PHEN

Jun 04 09 05:59 pm Link

Photographer

j_forbes

Posts: 413

Portsmouth, England, United Kingdom

D Magi Visual Concepts wrote:

Glossy comes from the paper you use, or the monitor you're looking at; not the image itself.

thank you, that answered my question.

Jun 04 09 11:24 pm Link

Photographer

GavinJPhoto

Posts: 95

Spokane, Washington, US

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090118/09/49736b1f134c8.jpgis this the glossy feel you were looking for? if so ... dodge and burn is the tool you want to learn how to use. that and a LOT of baby oil on the models at the shoot.

Jun 05 09 12:15 am Link

Photographer

pub

Posts: 221

Greensboro, North Carolina, US

here's a super fast way to acheive this look.

Duplicate a layer.

GO to filter- distortion- diffuse glow

make the high light glow on the duplicated layer.. Don't do it too much.  enough to pop out. Then layer it using "lighten".

After that go to

adjustments- highlights/shadows

Play with that till you get a look you like.

Then,

Use a dodge and burn brushes.

Also, playing with curve can bring out some details.

The most important part is to keep track of the histogram.
The "ideal" histogram you want is a mountain shaped one. When you achieve that, then you know you did a good job retouching.

Jun 05 09 02:34 am Link

Photographer

pub

Posts: 221

Greensboro, North Carolina, US

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Unsolicited critique

Jun 05 09 02:35 am Link

Retoucher

StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

Paul Byun wrote:

just a personal opinion here. Blurring skin really gets on my nerves.

Personal opinions aren't allowed in any forum other than the critique section.

Jun 05 09 02:36 am Link

Photographer

Kristen Tyler Photo

Posts: 57

Portland, Oregon, US

Question about adding shine to a face...is babyoil okay to put on a face? or do you just leave it off the face and dodge/burn?? can't imagine that would mix well with makeup.

Jun 05 09 10:33 am Link

Photographer

Beauty by Divine

Posts: 418

Miami, Florida, US

Kristen Tyler Photo wrote:
Question about adding shine to a face...is babyoil okay to put on a face? or do you just leave it off the face and dodge/burn?? can't imagine that would mix well with makeup.

I was just about to ask that same question.
I would think that baby oil would smear the makeup.

Wonder if the Ponds Cold Cream does the same thing?

Edit: I see that Ponds Cold Cream can actually be used to remove makeup.

Jun 05 09 01:01 pm Link

Photographer

Dallas J. Logan

Posts: 2185

Los Angeles, California, US

Beauty by Divine wrote:
I was just about to ask that same question.
I would think that baby oil would smear the makeup.

Wonder if the Ponds Cold Cream does the same thing?

Edit: I see that Ponds Cold Cream can actually be used to remove makeup.

[WHEN USING PONDS] I wouldn't apply it to the face (if makeup is involved)... However, no makeup?  All you need to do is apply a little bit, because Ponds is an actual old school makeup remover.

Jun 05 09 01:58 pm Link

Photographer

WIP

Posts: 15973

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

Paul Byun wrote:
here's a super fast way to acheive this look.

Duplicate a layer.

GO to filter- distortion- diffuse glow

make the high light glow on the duplicated layer.. Don't do it too much.  enough to pop out. Then layer it using "lighten".

After that go to

adjustments- highlights/shadows

Play with that till you get a look you like.

Then,

Use a dodge and burn brushes.

Also, playing with curve can bring out some details.

The most important part is to keep track of the histogram.
The "ideal" histogram you want is a mountain shaped one. When you achieve that, then you know you did a good job retouching.

What if it's a very fair skined model with blond hair, white clothes on a white background...what would the histogram look like then.

Jun 05 09 02:02 pm Link

Retoucher

Kevin_Connery

Posts: 3307

Fullerton, California, US

c_h_r_i_s wrote:

Paul Byun wrote:
The most important part is to keep track of the histogram.
The "ideal" histogram you want is a mountain shaped one. When you achieve that, then you know you did a good job retouching.

What if it's a very fair skined model with blond hair, white clothes on a white background...what would the histogram look like then.

https://www.kevinconnery.com/imaging/samples/histograms/highkey_histogram.jpg

(From the Digital Arts and Retouching FAQ entry What Should My Histogram Look Like? smile)

/hijack

Jun 05 09 02:47 pm Link

Photographer

Kristen Tyler Photo

Posts: 57

Portland, Oregon, US

Hmm so how do we apply shine to a face while shooting?

Jun 05 09 03:01 pm Link

Photographer

Dallas J. Logan

Posts: 2185

Los Angeles, California, US

Kristen Tyler Photo wrote:
Hmm so how do we apply shine to a face while shooting?

Are we talking female?  Prior to applying makeup, moisturize her skin, as seen from this example:

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3403/3590324465_9658fe8f7c_b.jpg

Jun 05 09 04:38 pm Link

Photographer

Fotogene

Posts: 562

Chicago Heights, Illinois, US

Spray Pam it goes on more evenly than hand applied baby oil.

Jun 05 09 04:44 pm Link

Photographer

Dallas J. Logan

Posts: 2185

Los Angeles, California, US

Also, let's get a couple of things cleared up... When it comes to "shine" especially when it comes to the "glossy" or "silky" shine, it is all in the lighting... And taken care of in post... My lighting is very very flat when shooting (though I did put Pond's on the model during the shoot)  For example:

Before:

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3399/3569336862_fb084c34bc_b.jpg


After:

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/3568520467_bd86873a2c_b.jpg

So please don't think you are going to walk away with silky, glossy sheen.  It is used to give you a base to work with in post.

Jun 05 09 04:46 pm Link

Photographer

790763

Posts: 2747

San Francisco, California, US

PAM is really oily and it looks "tacky". At first I used it just because I heard it is great for guys (male models).

It can cause breakouts because it gets absorbed into the skin and NOT healthy!

These days, I used a weakened version--that is made for hair sheening. It works better and the effects are subtle (realistic).

ronald n. tan
www.ronaldntan.com

Fotogene wrote:
Spray Pam it goes on more evenly than hand applied baby oil.

Jun 05 09 04:50 pm Link

Photographer

Dallas J. Logan

Posts: 2185

Los Angeles, California, US

ronald n. tan wrote:
PAM is really oily and it looks "tacky". At first I used it just because I heard it is great for guys (male models).

It can cause breakouts because it gets absorbed into the skin and NOT healthy!

These days, I used a weakened version--that is made for hair sheening. It works better and the effects are subtle (realistic).

ronald n. tan
www.ronaldntan.com


Yeah, Im going to have to agree on the PAM... It doesn't work well.

Jun 05 09 04:54 pm Link

Photographer

miss ernie

Posts: 1000

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Dallas J. Logan wrote:
Before:

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3399/3569336862_fb084c34bc_b.jpg

So please don't think you are going to walk away with silky, glossy sheen.  It is used to give you a base to work with in post.

Thank you for the before and after pics. That definitely helps us get an idea of what we will be getting prior to post-processing.

Jun 05 09 04:56 pm Link

Photographer

Dallas J. Logan

Posts: 2185

Los Angeles, California, US

miss ernie wrote:

Thank you for the before and after pics. That definitely helps us get an idea of what we will be getting prior to post-processing.

I've received LOTs of emails from irate people wondering why when they used PONDs their images did not come out like mine... I asked them about their lighting and I asked them about their post production.  You didn't ask me how I did my process, you asked me what did I use on the skin to get that sheen and that was the question I answered.  Everything else is dodging and burning.

Jun 05 09 05:04 pm Link

Photographer

Admiral Frog

Posts: 29088

Roswell, Georgia, US

Dallas J. Logan wrote:

I've received LOTs of emails from irate people wondering why when they used PONDs their images did not come out like mine... I asked them about their lighting and I asked them about their post production.  You didn't ask me how I did my process, you asked me what did I use on the skin to get that sheen and that was the question I answered.  Everything else is dodging and burning.

Can I ask about how long did it take you to process that photo?

Jun 05 09 05:13 pm Link

Photographer

Dallas J. Logan

Posts: 2185

Los Angeles, California, US

Frog516 wrote:
Can I ask about how long did it take you to process that photo?

Approximately 2 - 3 hours.  (I had to re edit that last amount of time)

Jun 05 09 05:17 pm Link