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Why are there so many Flakey models on MM
nyx wrote: That took a minute there...Then I had to smack my forehead for not getting it right away XD May 02 06 01:14 pm Link Daniela V wrote: May 02 06 01:41 pm Link Hi Daniela. My excuse is called a 3 year old daughter who just threw up. She brought home a stomach virus from school. May 02 06 01:46 pm Link IM Photography wrote: Ok- so there ya go- sometimes things come up that people can't respond. That's the point I was trying to make. May 02 06 01:56 pm Link Ummm, you say most are unprofessional? There isn't a moderator that checks to see if they are professional before approving the profiles. Sorry. This isn't a "professional" site. The site is open to non-professionals as well as unprofessionals! Let's see, most of them would be in what catagory? Well, they forgot to put in the brain and courtesy requirements too. May 02 06 03:09 pm Link I've had kinda the same experience. MM seems to be more of social gathering than a "professional" networking place. And yet I rather that like that- the free banter that goes on. And treasure that aspect- compared to the conservatism of omp. Just can't spend hours writing models who have little motivation to actually meet/ arrange a shoot. Guess I'll eventually figure out how things work- being a newcomer. I've worked with 80-90 OMP models, as I've hung in there quite a while. And learned how things work. I only pray MM never get to the point of inhibiting free expression- in forums- for the sake of becoming a sucessful endeavor - the kind that risks offending no one. As that's what attracted me here in the first place. Artists need to be .... a bit strange, thank god. Henry, minneapolis May 02 06 05:24 pm Link I would have to agree with some people on here, it's not just model's who are flakes, it's everyone out there. It's the wonderful world of the internet. This is a free site, and anyone can be anyone on here. Simple as that. This shouldn't be a guarantee for work, it should be a place to find possibilities. I have heard many photographers get on here and not understand why they aren't getting the feedback that they are "suppose" to, but this is not a "professional" site. This is a place for oppurtunity on behalf of the "professional" photographers and models out there. Don't down all of us models out here, there are some good ones, as well as bad. You just have to know what to look for! May 02 06 05:34 pm Link IM Photography wrote: Look, I sent my portfolio to magazines, agencies, and publisher. May 02 06 05:43 pm Link You guys need to chill. Have you ever sent out 100 resumes and gotten back more than 5 responses? There is no site restricted only to professionals who respond to every message. And there is no other way for some of us to get started than to send out a ton of messages on places like MM, and, yes, even myspace. It just takes quantity of messages to get enough replies so you find the ones you need. And a little patience. I send out about 30 messages for every promise of a booking and I get about 3 cancellations for every 4 shoots I schedule. And I do bitch about it. You can find my name attached to at least a few threads about no-shows and cancellations. But it's just a fact of life. There are good people and bad people and reliable people and unreliable people. And you'll run into all of them here, and everywhere else you go. If you have the money to pay an agency, then demand that they guarantee you a model at the appointed date and time. Get your money's worth. Or, if you're shooting TFCD, like I try to do, consider double and triple booking, like I should be doing. While it may not guarantee the quality you're looking for, it's a safer way to assure yourself someone will be there to work with. May 02 06 06:33 pm Link IM Photography wrote: May 02 06 06:38 pm Link Agency models flake too, that's so nice to know (didn't think it were possible)everyone says, go to an agency and your concept will be as smooth as silk,huh. I have to say 20% of the 15 responded,as another said,that's a good ratio. Don't give up, there will always be Internet models to pick up the flaking agency models. Marc  May 02 06 06:43 pm Link Melvin Moten Jr wrote: Post of the week. I find many of the photographers here are model butt kissers. May 02 06 06:45 pm Link Tiffany Renee wrote: What she said! May 02 06 07:22 pm Link Well when you contacted the models, was it a "Please contact me if you're interested" e-mail/phone call, or was it a "Please contact me with a Yes or No"-type e-mail/phone call? If it was the first one, then you can't really be mad when you specifically asked that they contact you if they ARE interested. Usually when I get an e-mail about a model opportunity, the wording in the photographer's e-mail will be "Please contact me if you're interested"...something like that. When you used the term "flakey" in the thread title, I assumed you were referring to no-show models. May 02 06 10:11 pm Link ok, so what the hell is this saying, if somebody isnt interested in shooting/working with somebody, theyre considered a flake? not everybody wants to work with everybody, even people who are good, you have people who are content within their own world to do what they feel is cool for them and i dont think anybody should be bashed for making their own decisions. now the MM babes in general, hell, for every 4-5 babes on MM who are not about what they say, you have 6-7 starving shooters who run the old "i can get you out there" excuse, mind you they contacted the babe not the other way around, lol. and also, you have 8-9 dudes who are running their asses around telling girls to "come sit on their lap" its a dog eat dog world. you gotta remember, this place is free, so therefore they dont lose one dime by not showing up for a shoot. they didnt invest in being here, so therefore they dont have to put in the effort to show up. this is not to stick up for the ones who do it, but its showing their side of the fence. best thing to do is hit the streets or make industry connections to find clients instead of growing grey hair on this spot working a nerve because somebody didnt reply to a PM. May 02 06 10:23 pm Link Tikeya wrote: I would think it's the migration of the MySpace wannabees just looking for a new place to roam. Wouldn't that go hand-in-hand with perception? May 02 06 10:24 pm Link As mentioned in my previous post, I figured this thread would be about models who were no-shows...not about models who simply didn't respond with an interest to a modeling job available. Not all models/photographers respond to EVERY e-mail they receive about a shoot/paid opportunity, and I don't think you're a "flake" just for not responding to every e-mail. I don't respond to every single e-mail, and I know I'm no flake. There was actually a thread on here about this. I'm seeing the term "flakey" being used on this forum a lot, and I would think it's referring to no-show models who don't call to cancel...not the models who simply are not interested in your paid opportunity. May 02 06 10:39 pm Link |
