Vito wrote:
It means none of those people (the models) will sue or hold any of those other people (the photographer/website) responsible for damages.

All-in-all, it's a standard model release.

Thanks hun! much appreciated, i cant believe how tired i am tonight! man how disorientated can you get with lack of sleep, i apologise again.

Thanks so much i failed to understand it

Amanda Schlicher wrote:
Real question:

Should you trust anyone who has a website that looks like that?

true...

i have a bad feeling about them i told her that, but she said another mate of hers signed with them and says theyre really cool and she should join, but i told her thats not really practical advice on what they actually do etc.. I told her im not sure about the whole thing. But then again if i dont understand the release what good am i at giving her advice

Vito wrote:
I just got to looking at the site and it's a Tripod site (Free). It may be he's starting out, or the name he wanted to use was taken.

It also looks as he is a cycle customizer that's just looking for models for calanders and such (like Pirelli, or tool companies).

he has a seperate address for the pin up i had it hang on: *looks*

http://www.sskpinups.com/  there and he requires all models to show pink :S

" ... It is always a debate on how to handle pay. Its hard. Other sites that post their pay are limiting them selves and setting standards. There is no negotiation. My experience models like the negotiation. Models should sign a pay agreement with a privacy statement. They breach that and discuss money with other models. They are terminated. Like any job you may have.

Like a job you may get a job somewhere doing the same thing as someone else but get higher pay because you are more experienced. Same thing in this world an amateur model with amateur photos should not get the same pay as a model with $300.00 photos.

So at this point are pay ranges from $75.00 - $150.00 a set 20-30 photos. SG pays $300.00 for several sets and then you are limtied to SG. I am in the Biker industry which opens much more high paying jobs for models. Becuase I promote my models.

Pay depends again on how many sites/new model/amateur/sex appeal/your turn around on shoots (how fast you get your photos in)



A few of my models have done it for free for the exposure--which has led them to other jobs.

$75.00 the lowest becuase at the time they sent in their application they were fuzzy unprofessional photos and their sex appeal wasn't as high as others.

$150.00 for a Good quality model with high sex appeal. I am sure you can tell the difference between good and bad models.

That being said all PAID models have to show pink. 98% of paid memebers are men. Men want to see every dollars worth. That is how it is. It is hard to get a man to pay if he isn't seeing all their goods. That is just how it is unfortunatley. A model who just wants the exposure doesn't have to show pink though.

SSK treats every model fair/does not try to screw them and promotes them to help them get other work in different avenues. Our specialty being the motorcycle industry. Like I said ,also Our models are used for bike shoots that are submitted to all the major bike mags. I have one Mag shoot coming up with Lollipop in June. Now that is huge exposure for them and SSK. "



DO you think the exposures worth it for the prices of showing pink. Whats the average pay for models that show pink, so i can show her this forum and your opinions.

Is his offers good or is there better, and if so what sites could i direct her too? She is keen on the exposure but not really showing 'pink' but she said she would do it if it would help her to get noticed and if the price/exposures right... ?


****ALSO does anyone know what he means by 'lollipop' im not familiar with bike modelling

Magnolia or Nola wrote:

he has a seperate address for the pin up i had it hang on: *looks*

http://www.sskpinups.com/  there and he requires all models to show pink :S

" ... It is always a debate on how to handle pay. Its hard. Other sites that post their pay are limiting them selves and setting standards. There is no negotiation. My experience models like the negotiation. Models should sign a pay agreement with a privacy statement. They breach that and discuss money with other models. They are terminated. Like any job you may have.

Like a job you may get a job somewhere doing the same thing as someone else but get higher pay because you are more experienced. Same thing in this world an amateur model with amateur photos should not get the same pay as a model with $300.00 photos.

So at this point are pay ranges from $75.00 - $150.00 a set 20-30 photos. SG pays $300.00 for several sets and then you are limtied to SG. I am in the Biker industry which opens much more high paying jobs for models. Becuase I promote my models.

Pay depends again on how many sites/new model/amateur/sex appeal/your turn around on shoots (how fast you get your photos in)



A few of my models have done it for free for the exposure--which has led them to other jobs.

$75.00 the lowest becuase at the time they sent in their application they were fuzzy unprofessional photos and their sex appeal wasn't as high as others.

$150.00 for a Good quality model with high sex appeal. I am sure you can tell the difference between good and bad models.

That being said all PAID models have to show pink. 98% of paid memebers are men. Men want to see every dollars worth. That is how it is. It is hard to get a man to pay if he isn't seeing all their goods. That is just how it is unfortunatley. A model who just wants the exposure doesn't have to show pink though.

SSK treats every model fair/does not try to screw them and promotes them to help them get other work in different avenues. Our specialty being the motorcycle industry. Like I said ,also Our models are used for bike shoots that are submitted to all the major bike mags. I have one Mag shoot coming up with Lollipop in June. Now that is huge exposure for them and SSK. "



DO you think the exposures worth it for the prices of showing pink. Whats the average pay for models that show pink, so i can show her this forum and your opinions.

Is his offers good or is there better, and if so what sites could i direct her too? She is keen on the exposure but not really showing 'pink' but she said she would do it if it would help her to get noticed and if the price/exposures right... ?


****ALSO does anyone know what he means by 'lollipop' im not familiar with bike modelling

Lollipop is an alternative mag with a clothing line that they use models for.

There is a ridiculous number of sentence fragments in that paragraph.  Run far, far away.