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Enough with friend's request from MMers w/ "porn"
studio36uk wrote: I think I need to steal these for my blog! Apr 21 06 06:38 am Link You're making value judgements about other people based on the presence of nudes in their portfolios? Interesting. Who are you to judge? Does that also mean you won't work on a shoot where nudity is involved? As for your kids - if you're that worried about nudity, why not hold-off on surfing Model Mayhem until after the kids are in bed? For those of you who are that worried about the 18+ images... LOG OFF!!! Surf Model Mayhem without logging in. Apr 21 06 07:11 am Link ashleyxo wrote: Oh yea, there ya go. She`s already screwed herself by obviously not being comfortable with nudity. That alone will make her lose lots of business. Add in the factor that her profile says she is a minor? She might as well quit altogether,lol.If I see someone stating they are underage, then somewhere else in their profile stating they are an age over 18, I automaticly stay away from them. Apr 21 06 07:18 am Link Mikel Featherston wrote: Ditto.... Apr 21 06 07:32 am Link dncphotos wrote: Exactly! Nudity and porn are not anywhere near being on the same playing field. I can understand not wanting your children to see that but eventually they will take a school field trip to the museum. And guess what's their? Nude art! Sure there are people on here who push boundaries, but full nudity is not a bad thing, nor is it porn. Apr 21 06 07:33 am Link You might just want to take a look at your tags, too... You know those nice comments on the front of your portfolio? You've got some folks with nude images in their portfolios linked to you. Go through each one of them. There are even some with implied nudes, extreme booty shots, see through tops, etc. For shame! How could you even take a chance and allow your children to see women in thongs! Women don't walk out of the house in clothes like you see there. Besides, what is pornographic to me is bad images. You know, images that are not sharp, not color-balanced or exposed well. Having bad images in your portfolio is going to keep away good work, as will any demonization of nudes. Apr 21 06 07:48 am Link Let's take a deep breath for a moment...... The author expresses similar reservations about friends' requests on her port narrative, only there she simply refers to nudity. It was only her use of the term "porn" in the original forum post that raised (justified) hackles with so many. Had she stuck to "nudity", as in her port, there would have been no controversy - after all, it's a matter of personal choice. As several people pointed out, porn is not allowed on MM. However, the definition of porn may be quite subjective (and I assume that most classical statuary, or a large number of the paintings in the Metropolitan Museum of Art are off limits to her kids too). In that vein, one might consider "implied", "suggested", or just partly undressed equally offensive - heck, a lingerie catalog might even do (how many young boys got their start with one of those?). That would ban most of MM. The simplest answer may be to either block access to or not review MM in the presence of the kids. I realize her professional activities require her to do so, but if she were a doctor would she allow the kids in the examination room during business hours? Apr 21 06 07:49 am Link James Perrin wrote: Excellent point! *clapping* Apr 21 06 07:56 am Link I have enjoyed reading this thread and would like to state for the record that Diedra Will probably not like my profile. Allthough it is certainly not porn there are some images that will probably shock her and her kiddies. I promise however that I will not send her a friend request so she will not need to worry about refusing me ( I do so hate to be refused it bruises my ego and makes me feel sooooo unwanted.) T oeveryone that does like my pix and is not offended by them I would love to be your friend cos I am such a friendly guy. Anyone visiting South Africa drop me a line and I will gladly show how friendly I am by meeting for a chat and buying you a beer or the alcopop of your choice. For those wondering yes its late Friday afternoon and yes I have had a beer or two already. Apr 21 06 10:36 am Link Deirdre wrote: Sorry Dierdre, I have to pile on. Deirdre wrote: This site (a modeling site that DOES have nude filters for non-members) is hardly the same as walking around outside naked, which is unfortunately illegal in the U.S. Deirdre wrote: But this is what you're complaining about. This site isn't ESP Mayhem. People submitting friends requests do not know you are nude-sensitive. Gimme a break. BTW - if you're surfing this site with your kids around, perhaps that's not the best idea. I allow my 11-year old stepdaughter to view some of my artistic nude work (SOME of it), but I sure as heck don't let her sit near me while I'm on this site. Deirdre wrote: We did - you called nude pictures "porn", regardless of the content of the image. "Profiles that could easily be classified as porn" were your exact words. Anytime I see something so anti-ANYTHING just for the sake of it, it's a little scary to me. A simple "Please do freind request if you have nudity in your portfolio, thank you" would be suffieicent. Yes, there will be people that don't read it and do it anyway. That's life. I still have solicitors come to my door even though I have a sign there that says "No Soliciting". Get over it. Delete the request and move on. Apr 21 06 11:00 am Link I'm a male who does some nude work (Disclosure, port includes 2 that show "It All" before clicking...) I'd mention that MM has recently clarified it's policy regarding male frontals. I have to admit, there have been a couple of models who kind of gone a little crazy with having like 14 out 20 pics that some would consider just exhibitionism. If you honestly think that it may be inapropriate stuff, click the Info tab, and Contact a Mod to let them know. I'd hate for things to get so out of control to the point where MM simply forbids them, outright.... Apr 21 06 12:08 pm Link Deirdre wrote: The reason I go on vacation in the carribean is so I can stay at resorts where I can walk out my front door completely naked. It's alot more fun I promise. Apr 21 06 12:16 pm Link Susi wrote: I think it's high time me and Susi take a vacation together. Apr 21 06 12:20 pm Link Envy wrote: Ohhhweeee! Sounds like a plan. Now who can we bring along to take some pictures??? lol:-) Apr 21 06 12:28 pm Link Susi wrote: You called? Apr 21 06 02:13 pm Link Susi wrote: As much as I'd like to I know I'd burst into flames the second I stepped off the plane. Just don't foregt to post them! Apr 21 06 02:15 pm Link For God sake, don't look at MY port!!! Apr 21 06 02:17 pm Link Rick Athearn wrote: Mine either! I've got several porn images there... er, I mean nude images. See what you made me say? Apr 21 06 02:37 pm Link So my question to you is -- where does it all end? How much can you remove yourself from the real world. I remember talking to a sales rep from RR Donnelly -- one of the largest printers in the world. One of their biggest customers was Zondervan publishers -- a huge Bible publisher. Another big customer was Playboy. He said they had to be very careful -- they ran both Bibles and Playboy in the same shops, and needless to say, the Bible people wouldn't be happy to have this shoved in their face. If you don't want to deal with photogs who sometimes shoot nude or even erotic material, that's certainly your perogative, but the fact is, a lot of the best fashion, advertising, and editorial photogs may also shoot nude and erotic stuff. Maybe you're just in the wrong business? Apr 21 06 02:55 pm Link Deirdre wrote: Exercise discretion and don't "click" on the avatars/profiles of people you don't know when your kids are around and always have a kid friendly window open to click to in case there is an image you don't want your kids to see. Apr 21 06 03:05 pm Link Glamour Boulevard wrote: Exscue me? not acepting nudes is screwing you elf. That's asfar overbaord inthe other direction buddy. Apr 21 06 05:08 pm Link This is so easy. #1 Don't have your kids look at the computer when you are on MM #2 don't accept people you don't want as friends. PERIOD. Apr 21 06 05:21 pm Link I have been shooting porn and not knowing it. My mother will be so disappointed in me; I have been telling her it is art. I am guess that her kids will never be able to go on a field trip to see any of the great renaissance painter. I am very sorry for their loss. Apr 21 06 05:23 pm Link studio36uk wrote: I want studio36 to start a fundamentalist right wing modeling photography website! No skin allowed, only backs of hands and face (no makeup of course....that's the work of the DEVIL!) Apr 21 06 05:25 pm Link Thank you to all my fellow MMers, both clothed and unclothed, who took the time to answer and express their views. No malice or judgement was intended in the post nor was I requesting that anyone conform to my views. It was simply a personal request so that I could retain my right to choose what I view. Apr 22 06 02:57 pm Link Mikel Featherston wrote: Oh no you didnt... disney? haha Apr 22 06 03:18 pm Link Deirdre wrote: You had that right whether you posted in here or not. Seems like a cheap shot way to call nudity porn. But oh well. Apr 22 06 03:53 pm Link First off, no one has forced or coerced anyone else to sign up here or do business here or on any other site. That I know of. Second, don't like what you see, change the channel, let you fingers do the walking, pull the plug, build a cocoon and climb in, start your own site, I know, sign up and list your age as 13 and wullah no nudes. What's the old adage - First look is temptation, 2nd is the sin. As the parent you control the computer and any childs access to it. Falling down on the job? How about using it as a time to teach the difference between things like nudity, lust, love, and art. A little growing up never hurt anybody. Thirdly, the religious stereotype that is against the nude human form "may" have been the case in the 1950's but it is certainly not today. Hello, welcome to the 21st century. I've experienced far more opposition to the nudes I do from high and mighty more evolved than thou pc liberals than from religious and spiritual folks any day. And yes I am, to use a more modern term, a "Christer". There is no moral, religious, spiritual, liberal, statutory, or constitutional right that says anyone has the right go thru life and not be offended. Apr 22 06 04:19 pm Link I am in Monty Python heaven - I love all of you!!! This thread makes me want to change my name to Joseph, move to an economically-depressed part of Britain and become a shrubber! Deirdre - your attempts to shut out porn are akin to chopping down a large tree with a herring! What is your favorite color (I hope you give a wrong answer)? Would somebody please squeeze Deirdre into the two halves of a coconut and have an African Swallow fly off with her?!!! Oh for the Holy Hand Grenade!!! The Black Knight, JAY carreon Apr 24 06 03:40 am Link Ransom J wrote: YEEEEEHHHAAAAAHHH!!!!!!! Apr 24 06 03:45 am Link This post has got to be a joke... Apr 24 06 09:37 am Link JAY carreon wrote: I think you meant Roger the shrubber. Apr 24 06 11:28 am Link Pat Thielen wrote: Really!? I could have sworn it was Joseph. Apr 25 06 01:27 am Link Deirdre wrote: i say if you dont want to see it ppl should deffinatly not send it Apr 25 06 01:53 am Link |