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Photographer

Brewer35MM

Posts: 264

Biddeford, Maine, US

Photographers. What are your thoughts on photo shoots with models posing with a gun or guns?
Personally, I don't think it works. I have only seen one that has.

Apr 11 06 07:45 pm Link

Photographer

San Francisco Nudes

Posts: 2910

Novato, California, US

Obviously it's been done to death.  But if you have the right model with a fun attitude you can get some interesting results.

Just remember the safety rules, and for God's sake teach them or get somebody to teach them how to actually hold the things properly.

Apr 11 06 08:10 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

More details please

Apr 11 06 08:12 pm Link

Photographer

SayCheeZ!

Posts: 20647

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Brewer35mm wrote:
Photographers. What are your thoughts on photo shoots with models posing with a gun or guns?

San Francisco Nudes wrote:
Obviously it's been done to death...

Pun intended?

Apr 11 06 08:20 pm Link

Model

Daphne Adair

Posts: 332

Melbourne, Arkansas, US

Craig Thomson wrote:
More details please

Oh Craig....did someone say guns? hee hee

Daphne

Apr 11 06 08:21 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

Daphne Adair wrote:

Oh Craig....did someone say guns? hee hee

Daphne

Yes they did!

I loved shooting Erica and Miyou with all the guns...

Apr 11 06 08:24 pm Link

Photographer

JBPhoto

Posts: 1107

Belleville, Michigan, US

Yeah we've been thru this...
Guns are fun.  They can be overused just like anything else.

Apr 11 06 08:55 pm Link

Model

Josie Nutter

Posts: 5865

Seattle, Washington, US

Back when I had a black mohawk, Patrick Andraste took me out to an abandoned insane asylum where I toted around an AR-15 (basically an AK-47) while wearing a full-body latex catsuit.  I looked fierce, haha. smile

But damn, that gun was HEAVY!

Apr 12 06 02:11 pm Link

Photographer

Bill Sylvester

Posts: 1509

Fairfield, Ohio, US

Josie Nutter wrote:
Back when I had a black mohawk, Patrick Andraste took me out to an abandoned insane asylum where I toted around an AR-15 (basically an AK-47) while wearing a full-body latex catsuit.  I looked fierce, haha. smile

But damn, that gun was HEAVY!

An AR-15 is more like an M-16 (feel free to do google images).

I bet it was very cool, regardless.

Apr 12 06 04:59 pm Link

Photographer

Douglas Rosen

Posts: 92

Orlando, Florida, US

Josie Nutter wrote:
Back when I had a black mohawk, Patrick Andraste took me out to an abandoned insane asylum where I toted around an AR-15 (basically an AK-47) while wearing a full-body latex catsuit.  I looked fierce, haha. smile

But damn, that gun was HEAVY!

Sounds like an awsome shoot, would love to see the images.

although an AR-15 is not at all the same as an AK-47 but I am sure no one else would really care that you made that mistake.

I havent shot any models with guns yet, but I do plan to when I have the right model and idea going on - Douglas

Apr 12 06 05:04 pm Link

Photographer

tomkatf

Posts: 262

San Diego, California, US

San Francisco Nudes wrote:
Just remember the safety rules, and for God's sake teach them or get somebody to teach them how to actually hold the things properly.

+1 here... and magazines in on semis, no Wal-Mart plastic and cut the "Charlie's Angels" crap...

;-)

Best,
Tom

Apr 12 06 05:08 pm Link

Photographer

KoolGirlieStuff

Posts: 3560

Gainesville, Florida, US

I think it`s AMAZING it ALWAYS works for me why should`nt it?

I shoot (no pun) Retro sessions with weapons as rare as the cars and airplanes I work with

I`m looking for class 3 license collectors (Florida, Texas and Georgia based....horny old guys in their 60`s and 70`s preferred)
who have expensive and rare WWII Sub-Machineguns stens/mp 40`s/Thompson`s etc. etc. and want to see scantly clad Retro styled models run around with them all day........not too much to ask for, just add some spy music and were all ready!

*I`m sure there`s quite a few rich old collectors who would`nt mind seeing boobs and guns all day long....send them my way*

Ohh and as ALWAYS I personally CLEAR ALL weapons before they are used for anything

https://www.members.aol.com/KOOLGIRLIESTUFF/KC.jpeg

Just like James Bond..........KC and a "real" early 1960`s Walther PPK

I`m currently looking for a.......

https://gunsworld.com/gun_smg/graphs/sterling_l2a3.jpg

English Sterling Sub-Machinegun (real weapon with class 3 license  holder/owner) or ORIGINAL prop weapon COMPLETE WITH SLING AND CURVED MAGAZINE for a 1970`s styled Retro/Erotica shoot in Orlando, Florida sometime in May  (PLEASE NOTE: *in a loaner/rent basis, not to buy*) shoot will be at a "closed set" location

Any leads anyone?

Apr 12 06 05:17 pm Link

Photographer

Flemming Kroll

Posts: 11

Aalborg, Nordjylland, Denmark

Girls & Guns....

Well - It depends on the viewer..

https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=443d85dfd34de

I made this one for an armsdealer in Denmark. We have planed to make a lot more.

Apr 12 06 06:00 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

Josie Nutter wrote:
Back when I had a black mohawk, Patrick Andraste took me out to an abandoned insane asylum where I toted around an AR-15 (basically an AK-47) while wearing a full-body latex catsuit.  I looked fierce, haha. smile

But damn, that gun was HEAVY!

I have a couple of photos of this gun being held by Erica and Miyou. Patrick loves his guns.

Apr 12 06 06:05 pm Link

Photographer

per nielsen

Posts: 49

Beiseker, Alberta, Canada

I just don't get the fascination with firearms and models in shoots. Maybe it's because I am from Canada and we have strict guns laws here. I would rather see a nipple than a gun in a shoot but we all know what happened when a nipple was exposed on tv during Super Bowl. I quess the message is that it's ok to go around with guns exposed (and promotoing violence) but exposing "naughty" parts of the human body is taboo. My rant on this subject.

Cheers,

Per

Apr 12 06 08:40 pm Link

Photographer

Marcus J. Ranum

Posts: 3247

MORRISDALE, Pennsylvania, US

I used to be into models with guns, until I got Kimberly to try posing with my Barrett light .50 and she fell over. Now I'm into "models with swords" - does that count?

https://img4.modelmayhem.com/060412/21/443db29cdd5f3.jpg

mjr.

Apr 12 06 09:20 pm Link

Photographer

p51

Posts: 163

Olympia, Washington, US

I love firearms. I own quite a few and have shoot more firearms than probably anyone on MM. Here's but a small part of my collection:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/willysmb44/GunStack.jpg
That being said, I don't see me ever taking photos with a model and a firearm in any "modern" sense. I have been toying around with an idea of a model posing with my WW1 "trench" shotgun in front of my Jeep, though, but have yet to figure out a non-cliched way to pull it off.
I cringe when I see photos of someone looking down a barrel.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN "UNLOADED" WEAPON! To say show spotlights borderline criminal levels of stupidity. I have personally watched someone accidently kill himself with a weapon that was cleared by two people right before he picked it up. A round WAS there, nobody saw it, though. I've had people "clear" weapons when I was inspecting them. I've found several rounds in chambers during my military career, and these were from people TRAINED to handle them. I know that anyone who would say that the weapon is totally empty has proven to the worl that they're nothing but a boob who has no idea what they're doing.
I also watched a guy (when I was a kid) fire a percussion cap rifle like they used in the Civil War. The cap went pop, nothing happened, so like an idiot, he placed the butt on the ground after a minute or so, and looked down the barrel. I had nightmares from what happened next well into my teens. His whole family watched his head disappear.
Photos looking down the barrel of a weapon disgust me in ways I can't write effectively. It shows a comical disregard for basic safety on any level. Sure, you shouldn't be terrified of a firearm if you're going to handle it, but just a little paranoia around weapons will keep you alive.
I've been handling weapons since I was about 5, shot competition all over the US, shot just about every non-nuclear projectile there ever was (everything from a BB gun to a 5-inch artillery piece), been active duty Army, been shot at, shot back, and I refuse to accept the "I cleared it," or any other excuse. You are inviting death a a terrible way to take these photos, or at the absolute least, show a sense of safety that makes it very clear you shouldn't be allowed to handle anything more dangerous than a spoon!

Apr 13 06 09:48 pm Link

Model

Lapis

Posts: 8424

Chicago, Illinois, US

p51 wrote:
I love firearms. I own quite a few and have shoot more firearms than probably anyone on MM. Here's but a small part of my collection:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/willysmb44/GunStack.jpg

Good thing you said small part of your collection. I was about to write that half the photographers I knew had more guns than that!

Apr 13 06 09:51 pm Link

Photographer

Darkroomist

Posts: 2097

Saginaw, Michigan, US

I sold a print of this image at an art show earlier this year:

https://www.aaaarrrgggggg.com/pics/c59.jpg

I think it's one of those things that can work but it's real easy to slip into gwc-cheese territory.  And remember, safety first.  Photogs check to make sure the chamber is clear twice before handing the gun to the model.  Models, check twice yourself.  If you don't know how, ask!  Also models, something you might want to look into is some firearms safety courses and/or firearms self defense class.  Sometimes local shooting ranges or sportsmans clubs will offer them for free.  You never know, you might enjoy it.  Something I noticed when I lived in MD was that the indoor shooting range was a popular place for dates.  There'd typically be 1 or 2 20-something couples on the 14 lane range.  At first i thought that was odd, but then I thought at least she's safe, it's not like he'll try anything with 17 armed people around him (the three store operators were always packin).  The shooting lanes are narrow to serve as an excuse to get close too I suppose.

Apr 14 06 11:10 pm Link

Photographer

Darker-Side of-Midnight

Posts: 1822

Southfield, Michigan, US

heck... you can sell any good print of a model... with a hot gun.. military type... at the gun shows....  its like an untapped market

Apr 14 06 11:13 pm Link

Photographer

p51

Posts: 163

Olympia, Washington, US

Lapis wrote:
Good thing you said small part of your collection. I was about to write that half the photographers I knew had more guns than that!

I mssed up what I orignally wrote. It should have read, "I have SHOT more firearms..."
And I really doubt you know anyone that has half of the weapons in this photo of mine, especially TWO original WW1 M1897 trench shotguns...
It's not a quantity issue for me, but a rarity one. The M1911A1 (the pistol) is a Union Switch and Signal-made one from 1943, a very rare variant of that pistol, never been fired.

Apr 15 06 12:32 am Link

Photographer

Doug Lester

Posts: 10591

Atlanta, Georgia, US

A woman posing with  a firearm has been done so often that it is often a cliche and often gets a reaction similar to a woman smoking a cigarette. But that doesn't mean those shots can't be effective, they often are. This one for example, part of my Warrior Collection, was one of the prints requested as a 'loan' for a summer long exhibition at the Museum of Moder Art in Bondeno, Italy.

To avoid shocking anyone, it is a nude!
http://www.distinctiveimages.com/warrio … 244254.jpg

Apr 15 06 02:10 am Link

Photographer

Bill Bates

Posts: 3850

Payson, Utah, US

I like photos of woman with guns. Of course that isn't suprising I like woman and guns and do photograph both on occassion.

yes it is cliche but what the heck you got do that every so often
https://www.pbase.com/slowpokebill/image/47176016.jpg

https://www.pbase.com/slowpokebill/image/57616907.jpg

Bill

Apr 15 06 12:05 pm Link

Photographer

olegvolk Oleg Volk

Posts: 52

Lebanon, Tennessee, US

Bill, this is beautiful! Is it a pre-WW2 Smith .38?

https://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/5287-2/six6forsure.jpg

https://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/4895-2/911_L9L5803.jpg

See http://olegvolk.net/gallery/technology/arms/ and elsewhere on my site for numerous  images of models with firearms. What helps get good results is picking models who know how to handle arms. That keeps everyone involved safe and provides for more realistic results. Most of my models bring their own props. I love living in Tennessee...never know when a 21yo girl might bring in a select-fire Uzi or a Martini in 45-577!

Apr 18 06 01:30 am Link

Model

Rachel Dashae

Posts: 1239

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

https://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/YumemiruModel/Jerells%20Shoots/Hammer%20And%20Tongs/40_inch_cable_4_by_LastDarkNight.jpg

Apr 18 06 01:40 am Link

Model

dirtbikesctt

Posts: 102

Houston, Texas, US

There is a hunting magazine with hot chicke sitting in bikini by there kill, nothin like a hot country girls that shoot

Apr 18 06 01:41 am Link

Photographer

GOTHIC HANGMAN STUDIOS

Posts: 208

New York, New York, US

Brewer35MM wrote:
Photographers. What are your thoughts on photo shoots with models posing with a gun or guns?
Personally, I don't think it works. I have only seen one that has.

Check my port and my link cause I pull it off like Tarentino!

Apr 18 06 01:45 am Link

Photographer

Bill Bates

Posts: 3850

Payson, Utah, US

olegvolk wrote:
Bill, this is beautiful! Is it a pre-WW2 Smith .38?

That old Smith and Wesson is a commercial model 1917 Hand Ejector in .45 Long Colt I picked up at work. (my day job is a senior gun buyer at Cabelas' Gun Library in Lehi, Utah)

I have a thing for old guns.
https://www.pbase.com/slowpokebill/image/47426217/medium.jpg
https://www.pbase.com/slowpokebill/image/47478423/medium.jpg
https://www.pbase.com/slowpokebill/image/46912580/medium.jpg

Bill

Apr 18 06 08:25 am Link

Model

Claire Elizabeth

Posts: 1550

Exton, Pennsylvania, US

I did a shoot for an NRA article. However, I was trained in first in the care and holding of the gun.

Apr 18 06 08:35 am Link

Photographer

bencook2

Posts: 3875

Tucson, Arizona, US

Post more photos of guns!

Apr 18 06 12:25 pm Link

Photographer

bencook2

Posts: 3875

Tucson, Arizona, US

Lapis wrote:

Good thing you said small part of your collection. I was about to write that half the photographers I knew had more guns than that!

I noticed your MP5!  I got to shoot a silenced full auto version once.  Wicked.

Apr 18 06 12:26 pm Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Here is a photographer (your's truly) with a real gun:

https://www.richardsfault.com/rp_photo/misc/DSC_6132.jpg

Now if it could just lock on to the target by pulling the trigger half way, just like a camera does!

You can see evidence overhead that the second-in-command may have used that shooting stall.

Apr 18 06 04:56 pm Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

JMX Photography wrote:
Something I noticed when I lived in MD was that the indoor shooting range was a popular place for dates.

My son and I saw this ploy "backfire" recently.

A man and a very flinchy girl showed up at the range. The poor girl jumped like she was jolted with electricity each time a shot was fired. I asked the man what he was going to be shooting.

"300 Win Mag" he said!

Some quick thinking on my part saved the day. I suggested she try my son's .22 rifle in exchange for us getting a few shots on the .300. I refer to that day as the day we made the ultimate trade.

After it was all over, she simply said "I like the .22 better."

Apr 18 06 05:05 pm Link

Photographer

Dr Molly Black

Posts: 663

Cleveland, Ohio, US

I think it can be done well, and I think it can be done cheesily. Really just like all photo shoots.

A lot of people don't hold the guns correctly, which I had lessons on very early in my photography career since a calendar I'm taking part in had a lot of NRA member feedback. Never hold the gun with the finger in the trigger. It should always be in the safety (along the barrel) position. Or so I've had tell.

Personally I love some of the shots I've done with guns. But I know it's my opinion and others may disagree.

Apr 19 06 10:30 pm Link