Forums > General Industry > A question for the nude photographers and models

Photographer

Patrick Shipstad

Posts: 4630

Burbank, California, US

I'm wondering if the photographers and models who shoot nude and semi nude shots are making any real money with what they do. After doing X amount of TFPs, are you later getting paying work from those types of shots in your portfolio? Are you selling the shots to any magazines or web sites? Who is your potential target to make money from this style of photography? Let me preface, I'm not judging at all!
I'ts just that I see a lot of it on MM and I'm curious how those kind of shots pay off for those who shoot them.

Anyone care to share?

Apr 10 06 07:00 pm Link

Photographer

Darrell

Posts: 716

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

I prefer to keep my clothes on when shooting. I haven't found that many "nude photographers" out there, at least not here in the frozen tundra of Canada.
wink

Apr 10 06 07:03 pm Link

Photographer

Darrell

Posts: 716

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

I prefer to keep my clothes on when shooting. I haven't found that many "nude photographers" out there, at least not here in the frozen tundra of Canada.
wink

Apr 10 06 07:03 pm Link

Photographer

Rich Mohr

Posts: 1843

Chicago, Illinois, US

Patrick Shipstad wrote:
I'm wondering if the photographers and models who shoot nude and semi nude shots are making any real money with what they do. After doing X amount of TFPs, are you later getting paying work from those types of shots in your portfolio? Are you selling the shots to any magazines or web sites? Who is your potential target to make money from this style of photography? Let me preface, I'm not judging at all!
I'ts just that I see a lot of it on MM and I'm curious how those kind of shots pay off for those who shoot them.

Anyone care to share?

This will sound odd but I create the images I do for the art of it. I've never sold any of my models images for profit. I basically use the images to update my portfolio.
Now that said, I do have projects going where I intend to sell the images in a book. But it's not a project where I could quit my day job... 

Rich

http://www.rpatrickmohrphotography.net

Apr 10 06 07:23 pm Link

Photographer

C Alexander

Posts: 1357

Murrieta, California, US

in a word yes
the money can be made it just depends on how you market it.
Either as a special gift to a husband boyfriend girlfriend or mate.
Also, as if you do these now you can have them for yourself when you turn 65.
For art galleries and certain magazines and web sties
It's all the marketing

Apr 10 06 07:26 pm Link

Photographer

R Michael Walker

Posts: 11987

Costa Mesa, California, US

I do Fine Art Nudes. And MAYBE i've made $5K off print sells in 40 yeaars. I do it for the possibility of Immortality. I make films for money. Photos for art. but if you do sexually oriented nudes there are PLENTY of people making money at that. Not me because it's not my thing. Also not judging here.
Mike

Apr 10 06 07:27 pm Link

Photographer

Glamour Boulevard

Posts: 8628

Sacramento, California, US

I do not do it for the money.  But if I make some the model gets half. My art nudes have gotten me a spot in an art gallery exhibit with 6 other local photographers starting later this month.When I told the model in the photographs on the phone I think she nearly fainted with excitement,lol.
I consider myself very fortunate. I am only 34 and some do not get exhibits for many more years.

Apr 10 06 07:30 pm Link

Model

Anna Michelle

Posts: 196

Pensacola, Florida, US

Darrell wrote:
I prefer to keep my clothes on when shooting. I haven't found that many "nude photographers" out there, at least not here in the frozen tundra of Canada.
wink

hahaha...i didn't get to make my joke..you stole it.

Apr 10 06 07:32 pm Link

Photographer

George Losse

Posts: 11

Mount Holly, New Jersey, US

Patrick Shipstad wrote:
I'm wondering if the photographers and models who shoot nude and semi nude shots are making any real money with what they do. After doing X amount of TFPs, are you later getting paying work from those types of shots in your portfolio? Are you selling the shots to any magazines or web sites? Who is your potential target to make money from this style of photography? Let me preface, I'm not judging at all!
I'ts just that I see a lot of it on MM and I'm curious how those kind of shots pay off for those who shoot them.

Anyone care to share?

Patrick,

I shown and sold my images in galleries. I've even had them published in a book.

I would never sell any of my figure work to a website. It's not hardcore enough, besides that's not what my work is about anyway.

As for being a nude photographer. There have been time in upstate NY where models, photographers and local people were all enjoying an afternoon of sunshine without clothes, but that was more of a left over hippie thing..... not the norm at all.

You should know when your shooting where and what the market is for the images you make. You can feel it during a shoot.

George Losse

Apr 10 06 07:33 pm Link

Photographer

MarkMarek

Posts: 2211

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Darrell wrote:
I prefer to keep my clothes on when shooting. I haven't found that many "nude photographers" out there, at least not here in the frozen tundra of Canada.
wink

I grew winter fur on me so I can perform in low temperatures... Hang on, are we talking about photoshoots? tongue

Apr 10 06 07:38 pm Link

Photographer

ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

Patrick Shipstad wrote:
I'm wondering if the photographers and models who shoot nude and semi nude shots are making any real money with what they do. After doing X amount of TFPs, are you later getting paying work from those types of shots in your portfolio? Are you selling the shots to any magazines or web sites? Who is your potential target to make money from this style of photography? Let me preface, I'm not judging at all!
I'ts just that I see a lot of it on MM and I'm curious how those kind of shots pay off for those who shoot them.

Anyone care to share?

Yes, and interestingly enough almost all my work comes thru my website (4+ million visitors to date). In my second year as an artist I had three book offers - all from Europe. I accepted one (The Mammoth Book of Illustrated Erotica - published worldwide).

I have strangely enough gotten a substantial amount of commercial work from what is basically a Fine Art site - and fairly erotic stuff at that - work for Motorola, the Smithsonian, NCTA (National council for the Traditional Arts), The National Folk Festival and others.

My Fine Art work is sold to collectors - or people who like them well enough to want to hang them in their home - not magazines or websites - I don't do those kind of images..*^)

However, the major major part of my income is from "Private Commissions" - where the husband - or wife - contract me to shoot her/him - or the both of them (or the mistress/lover) - for prints to display in their home and sometimes for a coffeetable book - or both.

My basic fee for this is presently $5K for the shoot plus all expenses and costs of prints. A major client recently added a $16,600 order to what I have already printed for him. Following the completion of that order he will then fly me out to CA for a couple of weeks stay with him and his lovely wife. In the last year and a half, I have spent more than three months with them in various parts of the country - always at his expense - he never lets me pay for anything...=*)

Apr 10 06 09:41 pm Link

Photographer

Voltaire

Posts: 202

Los Angeles, California, US

No matter what you shoot, clothed or unclothed, if your portfolio gets better, people will pay you.  You have to let people know you are out there.  If your work is solid the money will follow.  I recently had a woman ask if I would photographer her nude based on what i have in my portfolio.  Good work begets paid work.

Rob
http://www.robertvoltaire.com

Apr 10 06 09:46 pm Link

Photographer

BTHPhoto

Posts: 6985

Fairbanks, Alaska, US

Apr 10 06 09:56 pm Link

Photographer

Jack Curtis

Posts: 224

Westlake, Louisiana, US

depends on the market your aiming at.

You MAKE money with well promoted Adult work.
You CAN make money with well promoted Art nudes, but not as much, and good luck.
The window of success for Playboy/Maxim style work is small. From the feedback I've received from a former PM and recent PMOY, you hit big or better have a good backup plan.

If you're going to do nude work in front of or behind the camera, prepare to either boldly ignore or bravely endure a lot of criticism.

I guess my take on it after three years shooting, producing, promoting and selling all of the above types of work sounds pretty harsh. My advice to those getting into nude work is do it or don't bother. You don't have to do HARDCORE PORN to make profitable adult work, so that's not what I mean. But if you're going to take the step, get the most out of that decision and shoot what sells, or keep your clothes on, and work on other stuff. NOW THAT is from a profitability standpoint. Art has a different goal in mind. I really LIKE art nudes, you can see some awesome examples right here on MM, so I'm not knocking them, but what will be easier to sell? honestly?

Your market? I don't skirt around this one. Think about it. We're talking about launching nudes on the internet on a site, charging people to see them, who's going to pull out the VISA and pay for it? Not models looking to see other model's work, that's for sure, and the artist's are making their own nudes, not looking for yours. Your market is 100 million lonely dudes in their own little dark computer room all over cyberspace.........say no more. Dance around it all you want, that's the cold hard truth, and if you want the colder harder truth, these same guys are the largest buyers of PB and Maxim too, and others as well. So the PB is much "TAMER" than adult work argument doesn't hold water with me. The audience by and large is the same.

Apr 10 06 11:17 pm Link

Photographer

Kentsoul

Posts: 9739

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Jack Curtis wrote:
If you're going to do nude work in front of or behind the camera, prepare to either boldly ignore or bravely endure a lot of criticism.

Best advice I've heard in a long time.

Apr 10 06 11:21 pm Link

Photographer

Joe Koz

Posts: 1981

Lititz, Pennsylvania, US

I'd take my clothes off and be a nude photographer ... if the model would pay me.

No, really ... I don't shoot nude ... so please, don't ask.

Apr 10 06 11:26 pm Link

Photographer

Lost Coast Photo

Posts: 2691

Ferndale, California, US

Not really interested in doing it for money, I have a real job for that.  My photography is intended to balance the rational things I do Monday through Friday.

Occasionally a nude sells at a gallery exhibit, but there are other subjects which sell more often and more predictably.  Most of my exhibits sell enough to cover the printing and framing costs and then some, but factor in all annual photography related expenses and it's not profitable most years.  I'd keep shooting even if nothing ever sold, though.  Could I sell more through other means?  Probably.  But then I'd have two rat-races instead of one, and I prefer not to distract from what really matters.

Apr 10 06 11:30 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Shipstad

Posts: 4630

Burbank, California, US

Joe Kozlowski wrote:
I'd take my clothes off and be a nude photographer ... if the model would pay me.

No, really ... I don't shoot nude ... so please, don't ask.

Haha.. too bad we can't say the same for Terry Richardson!

Apr 10 06 11:32 pm Link

Model

Xochitl

Posts: 46

NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California, US

I have been doing nudes for close to 13 years now & made very little in front of a camera.  Sittings have paid much better for painters & art classes, I think mostly because it is actually a lot of work.  I love it & that is why I do it & I have actually met some really great people because of it.  It is too bad there isn't much money to be made off it, at least here in the US, maybe in Europe where there isn't such an issue with nudity there could be more money made.

Apr 11 06 06:07 pm Link