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Andrew Fortson

Posts: 212

Los Angeles, California, US

zach gold (www.zachgold.com) will be doing a shoot on may 27 in the dry lakebed of el mirage, california of over 2400 people to represent the 2400 soldiers that have died in the iraqi desert.

please check this out, and for anyone is southern california, i suggest you participate in this.


www.knowwar.com

Apr 03 06 04:13 pm Link

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Andrew Fortson

Posts: 212

Los Angeles, California, US

i love how anything actually involving photography without nudity goes completely unnoticed here.

Apr 03 06 11:09 pm Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

No it didn't go unnoticed... but what the American people really, really, REALLY need is 2400 pictures of the REAL war to get them informed. A photo of 2400 simulated dead soldiers moves me at about the same level as a Spencer Tunick special event.

If you are going to really "KNOW WAR" you have to "SHOW WAR"

Studio36

Apr 04 06 08:38 am Link

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Eric Foltz

Posts: 432

Lake Forest, California, US

As someone who has actually shot in Iraq, to me, this just looks like a self-indulgent publicity stunt.

As said above, if you want to make a statement about the war, go shoot the war. Go shoot the people really fighting the war.

-E. Foltz

Apr 04 06 09:45 am Link

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James Jackson Fashion

Posts: 11132

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

studio36uk wrote:
If you are going to really "KNOW WAR" you have to "SHOW WAR"

The current administration is robbing us of that opportunity...every photographer is being censored who shoots over there.



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Andy, I agree that when anything involving much thought process is brought up on this forum people here don't much like to discuss it anymore.

Apr 04 06 09:49 am Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

James Jackson wrote:
The current administration is robbing us of that opportunity...every photographer is being censored who shoots over there.

It's NOT the photographers being censored; or the news reporters either; at least not in the field... though they are restricted in where they can go and when. News control, and control of the news, starts a lot closer to home.

You don't see in the US what we see on British TV... but for the most part the BBC et al only covers the British military... and we have seen the dead, the injured, the displaced and our own soldiers escaping in flames from buildings and even armoured personnel carriers, and a lot more of the "action."

At the start of the current conflict a Brit photo-journalist even went walkabout on a "personal statement" of his experience in the Iraq TO and came away with a half hour TV special including being caught in a fire fight and with film of soldiers fighting and dying in living colour + sound that was broadcast here in prime time as a news special. Also when journalist John Simpson, BBC's Senior Political Correspondent, and his party, got bombed from the air [by friendly fire] it hit our TV screens in all it's glory, or, non-glory as the case may be... the camera kept rolling including with the blood spatter on the camera lens... and film of their military escorts and their own wounded film crew. Broadcast on several occasions.

The Brit press can get squeamish about certain things [e.g. krispie critters at breakfast time - like the Fallujia security contractor incident - which WAS shown at later news hours and in the print media INCLUDING the mob attacking the corpses] but general war coverage here is a LOT more graphic than anything you see in America. The only reason we don't see more of it, and a lot more, is because the editing decisions are made in London and not in the field by the actual reporters on the scene.

The American public are being treated like mushrooms* for a reason... if they were to see real war - like the Vietnam coverage - support for the US government's position on Iraq [at least,] if not the government itself, would evaporate just as it did in 1968/69 and onwards.

* Kept in the dark and fed bullshit.

Studio36

Apr 04 06 12:18 pm Link

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Andrew Fortson

Posts: 212

Los Angeles, California, US

So now I see that I all I have to do is challenge the integrity of the people on this forum to actually get people talking.

Zach Gold has been working in the fashion and advertising photography world since he was selected in 1997 as one of the top 100 artists under 35 in New York City. In 2000, the late Peter Jennings presented Zach with the International Center of Photography’s Young Photographer of the Year award. I don't think this is a publicity stunt.. I think he has enough publicity.  He only shoots for the likes of Nike, Mini Cooper, Sony PlayStation, Warner Brothers, and MTV.

He's not try imitate the war at all.  He's trying to show the world what 2400 people actually look like.  He's trying give the numbers faces.  You hear the number, but it doesn't really register into how many people that actually is.  And he's trying to help show this.

Apr 04 06 02:51 pm Link