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I have a question about a rate for a specific shoot!!
Hi and thanks so much for reading my post! I am doing several shoots this coming month, and was just curious about what rates I should be asking for. I am doing a "artistic nude" shoot... but it only pertains to showing my back... so do I charge what I would charge for a nude shoot... or do I charge differently since you dont see me completely nude? Also... what do you suggest charging as a rate regardless of what your answer is for the main question i've asked? I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT!! I'm pretty new to the field so I dont want to over step my boundaries and ask for ridiculous amounts of money! THANKS SO MUCH! Jun 29 05 11:17 pm Link starting rates for that are 100 to 150, one 150 being the average starting rate for nudes. Jun 29 05 11:24 pm Link Posted by Ian Powell: Haha! Jun 29 05 11:25 pm Link Posted by Ian Powell: Dang Skippy you paying for a model or a .... never mind that would be mean. Jun 29 05 11:26 pm Link lol thats what i was thinking was a bit expensive and too much to ask.... thats hourly or for the entire shoot? Jun 29 05 11:28 pm Link Posted by OnlyAnIllusion: I think he was thinking hourly. Unless you are a bankable model I would not pay more than $50hr. (In reality I doubt if I will ever pay for a model) Jun 29 05 11:38 pm Link Think of it this way: Nude models for art classes only make around $12/hour. Jun 29 05 11:39 pm Link i was thinkin of charging like 55 or 60... and he is emailing me a copy of the MRF so I can see what is expected of me and what the images will be used for Jun 29 05 11:44 pm Link Posted by OnlyAnIllusion: That still may be high... Hate to see you lose out by over charging. BUT I don't know your market, the photographer or the circumstances so charge what you feel is a fair price for your time and likeness. Jun 29 05 11:48 pm Link Posted by BarryH: Those are drawing classes in which no releases are signed, nothing is published and no one ends up being very recognizable. Photography pays more. Jun 29 05 11:49 pm Link Posted by theda: Posted by BarryH: Those are drawing classes in which no releases are signed, nothing is published and no one ends up being very recognizable. Photography pays more. I know, Theda. I was just putting it into perspective, not suggesting that she should charge that. Sorry if I wasn't clear! Jun 29 05 11:56 pm Link i agree with you both. like you said though Mike i'm afraid to miss out on a shoot by asking for too much.. but i was also thinking, if he doesn't like the rate i'm asking for he might just try to talk me down.. which i wouldn't really worry too much about. really mike? yeah i hate cold weather as well... i'm determined to get a scholarship in another state and MOVEEEEE Jun 29 05 11:57 pm Link Posted by OnlyAnIllusion: I have done about ninty nude shoots since 2000, in East Tennessee, with local models. The most I have paid has been $100.00 for two hours of camera time, and that has been this year. Jun 30 05 12:00 am Link Posted by OnlyAnIllusion: Well I would recommend Sunny Florida... Lots of schools, lots of sun.. Lots of work... Jun 30 05 12:04 am Link Thanks for your input marvin! i am still very unsure because everyone has given me a different answer  ) when you have worked with these models, what type of experience did they have? i'm fairly new to the gameJun 30 05 12:04 am Link What are the images for? If they are for my portfolio then I'm only going to to a TFP and maybe buy you and my assistant lunch. If the shoot is a paid assignment then there are some variables to consider, but I feel this isn't so I won't delve into those. If the shoot was for prints to be sold as art, I'd pay for your travel, lunch, less than $50, and maybe a signed artist's proof. The cash is because you will waive any and all compensation from the photos. The artist's proof from me is worthless, but from an established photographer it could have considerable value. As Mike said, if you were a "bankable model" with extensive experience, you might draw more than the $50. For just a back though...I can find lots of people that will pose for that for free... Jun 30 05 12:23 am Link Posted by A. K. Southard: Her portfolio says no nude for TFP and ONLY artistic nudes. Jun 30 05 12:29 am Link Thanks Mike, I misread it. Jun 30 05 12:32 am Link Posted by OnlyAnIllusion: Most of the models I work with are just starting, and are shooting nude for the first time. Jun 30 05 12:36 am Link Posted by A. K. Southard: It's late.. Jun 30 05 12:38 am Link Lot's of models are charging to shoot and some are doing OK. I do NOT pay models for portfolio development... At the same time I do not charge models to work on there portfolio... These types of shoots are scheduled around paying work. If I am getting payed for a photograph, no matter what it is for the model gets to see how much I am getting and we agree on a fee for her. If you want to get payed for nude work... Stick to your guns and don't do it for free.... It's very likely that several photographers will pass you up. Personally I recomend you find a photographer in your area that does GREAT work... Not OK work, Great work. do a TFP shoot with him/her of implied, Shear, Maxim style stuff and get it on your portfolio... If the images are good enough it will be easier to get paid nude work. Just my thoughts. Jun 30 05 12:49 am Link Thanks, I've definitely covered all those bases.. I try to be as cautious as possible because to me you can never be too careful. I think that's great that you go to such lengths to make sure the model feels safe. That shows you genuinly care. If I do the shoot... I will be taking someone with me so I am not alone.. thats a big deal to me to feel safe. Thank you!! Jun 30 05 12:50 am Link Posted by Ian Powell: In Colorado? Yeah right! Jun 30 05 02:25 am Link My nude rate is $75/hour that seems okay here in Colorado. I also will come down to $60/hour. Jun 30 05 02:26 am Link How often do you get $75 hour nude work? Mike Jun 30 05 07:15 pm Link It's best to charge higher then work your way down because some people will try to ask for a lower rate. I'm able to get $110/hour for fine art/artistic nudes. My rate for glamour, fashion, casual, swimwear, and lingerie is $85/hour. I'm a bit on the steep end, I know, but I get paid my rates.  You also have to keep in mind what the shoot's about. If it's for portfolio development, if it's for a book, catalogue, magazine, art show, etc. If they're making money off it, then you should be getting a percentage. I'll do TFP/TFCD with only a few photographers. It also depends on what YOU have to offer the photographer. If you can give him images and looks that not a lot of other models can, then he may be willing to pay you whatever you ask. It all depends on how desperate he is to work with you. lol Of course, you have to give 110% into the shoot and be totally prepared from the moment you get there. You have to have a routine down so you don't have any down time. They're paying you, so you better be on the ball. Just a few tips from me. Jul 01 05 08:03 pm Link Posted by OnlyAnIllusion: I would think that if you and a photographer have already agreed upon a session, and the style of session it is to be, that you should have already discussed your rates. Jul 01 05 08:08 pm Link Rates should be one of the FIRST things you discuss. Sometimes I do forget to ask, but I always mention it before we confirm details about the shoot. Jul 01 05 08:10 pm Link I guess I need to move out of the ultra-conservative midwest! Most of the sculptures I do have nudity to them and the rates I pay are up to $75 per hour. None of my sculptures have a face to them so the models identity remains unknown. I would assume that makes it easier for the model, but when approaching a new model about working together, they all seem to want at least $100 per hour and even once one wanted triple that. Its all what the market bears (no, not a pun) and I would assume that anything more than $75 per hour, the model is either exceptional or extremely lucky! Jul 01 05 08:19 pm Link This is to Mike, Well, I had 2 in the last couple months then I got 3 in July one is for an hourly rate and the other two are actually paying me a day rate. Just from those 3 shoots I'm making a little over $960. Then I have 3 in August so far and they are paying my hourly rate. So! I must be doing something right. I don't know why people get so suprised when a model actually gets paid for her time and talent. Jul 01 05 11:07 pm Link Posted by Venus: How could rates be the first thing we discuss? I need to know about content and usage before we can hope to establish a fair rate. Jul 01 05 11:14 pm Link The most important thing is... be SAFE have an escort .. and have FUN Jul 01 05 11:33 pm Link Posted by CO Model Amber: I am not suprised you are getting paid, I am suprised you are getting paid by the photographer. Jul 02 05 01:08 am Link Well, photographers do pay. It's nothing new :laughing: And they've all contacted me with ideas in mind. Jul 02 05 01:37 am Link Posted by CO Model Amber: Hopefully they are paying you for images they can market and not just to get a girl nekkid. Jul 02 05 01:45 am Link We have discussed our rates but I hadn't settled on one yet because we were still discussing exactly what we were going to do. Especially since you only see my back.. I was unsure on whether or not i should charge for a nude shoot. Jul 02 05 02:27 pm Link |
