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THE STRUGGLE OF THE NEW MODELS. HELP!
Posted by Tracey Masterson: Well technically the cover of any magazine is an ad. It's an ad for the magazine and is listed on their rate or spec sheet of which they pay for. Jun 30 05 11:48 am Link Posted by Tracey Masterson: Heck Yeah! i'm with you! I'd totally do it for free! Jun 30 05 12:01 pm Link NEW YORK IS NOT ALL ROSES for models. I am reading this discussion and am a bit astonished on how you all think things work here. 1. Just because you live in or near NYC, you will not necessarily be taken by an agency. 2. Going to enough Open Calls, does not ensure getting into an agency. It takes a certain amount of personal development, luck, and a marketable look. There are tens of great girls for every good fashion agency spot. So competition is hard. 3. Personal Development can mean a lot of things, and some people have it all together by the time they get to the open calls. This means strict weight/height stats. The right hair style/attitude. 4. Luck means luck....or finding a way around stringent guidelines and tough competition. That can mean a great deveopled up book. Julia understands this and is trying. She has photographed with me and tried several other internet photgraphers, but has had a less than hoped experience. And that is what this post is about. One or two shoots does not make a book and that is why she went out and shot a bunch of TFPs. I shoot paid model tests for model agencies (like Christian), but again one $200-500 shoot doesn't suffice. You have to get out there and shoot and shoot often. Some of the girls in NYC are going to the open calls after switching or getting dropped from an agency and have 100-300 pro shoots behind them and are 18 years old. It is just a sad tale that the internet is becoming a hindrance to fashion models looking to get experience. Also I don't mind that some of you criticise my work, fair game, and the stuff is raw and not retouched. She and I will have to look into that. But for the sake of fashion photography lay off the darkness issue, as it is not relevant. You all are just too used to the "Bright Bikini Blitz" of internet photography. Thanks and please feel free to e-mail me personally with industry issues at [email protected] Best of luck, Michael Creagh http://michaelcreagh.com Jun 30 05 12:58 pm Link I find the deliberate darkness of Mike's shots (and a lot of other fashion shooters these days) works a lot better on paper than on the internet. Between variation in monitor calibrations, etc., you have a lot less leeway in what works for an internet portfolio. I try to stay away from very dark or very bright for websites because i figure I'll just end up blinding someone somewhere. We know that just going to open calls in NYC isn't any gaurantee, but Julia (who hasn't been back) didn't say anything at all in her intial post about even approaching agencies, so we gave a lot of general advice that may have included everything she's already tried. Jun 30 05 01:14 pm Link Posted by Michael_Creagh: You all are just too used to the "Bright Bikini Blitz" of internet photography. Nice Jun 30 05 02:23 pm Link Posted by Julia Rocker: Jun 30 05 07:41 pm Link I work in a totally different genre (sp?). My specialty is car and bike models because there seems to be a need for that in my area. Although I do portfolio work for models in all aspects of modeling. I don't have advice, but more of examples. One of my friends was modeling and got out of it because of all the crazy things that happened to her. She left modeling for a while and is now back into it with a new attitude and a new outlook. I just talked to her the other day and she is loving it. No, she's not big time, but is enjoying being infront of the camera again. She now says that she has forgotten about what each shot can do for her and thinks about enjoying the moment once she's made her surroundings safe. My other example is another friend of mine has been acting for many years and had his ups and downs with it. All of his friends back home truly envy his drive and determination. He's getting older, but is still determined that one day all of his dreams will come true. I guess I do have one bit of advice. 2% of the people really make it to the big time in their profession. They make it there for a reason. Find your reason and don't let anyone stop you or tell you that it might be time to find a new "HOBBY". That's crap!! You do what you have to do without comprising yourself and everything will be fine. If you don't reach what you want, the maybe it was because there's another reason. But you won't know if you don't stick it out now will you. Take care! Doug D2Images Jun 30 05 11:22 pm Link Posted by Fred Brown: I think the EIC of any reputable magazine would disagree strongly with that statement. To suggest editorial is for sale is blasphemous to most editors. Posted by Fred Brown: Inside front cover, rear cover, and rear inside cover are all often available to buy, depending on a magazine's layout. But I don't know of any magazine that'll sell front cover or at all considers FC available to the publishing side. Front cover is always editorial. Otherwise, it's a catalog, not a magazine. Jun 30 05 11:41 pm Link Posted by Tracey Masterson: To your point, I'd be stunned if anyone cares about the $300. 8-) Jul 04 05 10:46 pm Link |
