Rick Dones wrote:
Every once in a while some model will be looking at some of my old work and the first comment is to call the nude/erotic model a whore or pig...etc
I've never known of a male model look down on another for doing nudes
WHY???

Yeah, actually I do run into this sometimes. Not so much from men because they're sometimes just incomfortable about it, not so much judgemental. But some women tend you think that a guy who poses nude is just some exhibitionist trying to score dates. (Granted, there ARE a lot of those out there...) Ultimately there are those who will appreciate what you do, and those who will not. I say don't loose any sleep over it, it's their problem, not yours.....

Rick Dones wrote:
Other females that do nudes...
I don't really shoot a lot of nudes or erotica anymore but at one time I made my living shooting for mens mags.....Every once in a while some model will be looking at some of my old work and the first comment is to call the nude/erotic model a whore or pig...etc
I've never known of a male model look down on another for doing nudes
WHY???

I would never call you a whore or a pig.
Some people make their living that way.
It's not like you are pushing other people to do.
Good for you that you used to do it and you are not ashamed. In this day and age people should lighten up and get stuffed as far as you should be concerned!!

take care chicka

xx shelly xx

Shyly wrote:

Klaudia, the OP wasn't talking about models who choose a more conservative career path, but rather about those who are actively nasty about models whose work includes more skin.  I don't think anyone (in this thread) takes exception to a model pursuing a fully clothed career.  I certainly don't.  I do, however, take exception to being told that my choices reflect some inherent lack of morality, talent, ability, etc.  There's a huge difference between choosing not to do something oneself, and calling someone else who does do it a "whore" or "pig" as the OP mentioned.  I've never seen you do that, so I think you're in the clear. 

Right on, Shyly!  Personally, I'm surprised to see that there are still so many Neanderthals around who believe that nudity is, somehow, dirty and sinful.  Also, I think that old fashioned female cattiness has something to do with it.

jon mmmayhem wrote:
i guess nobody likes being reminded of their former lost glory, but still. sheesh.

It's funny you say that...really...

My husband and I are people watchers. Pretty much everywhere, online, IRL, whatever. We both enjoy watching the unconscious body language of those moving around us, and we enjoy looking at eyecandy online (I mean really, who doesn't?)
For a long time we both preferred eyecandy in the 18-24 age range, because hey.  They're hot. They're lithe. They're tanned. They're oiled. Sweet. Let's checkitout.
But...
We started paying attention particularly on this site, and have noticed that more and more, the women who are 25+ seem to take care of themselves, be more fit, more toned, and in better over all condition.

What does this have to do with nudes and snarky women?
A lot.

The women who are snarky are the women who won't put the work in to make themselves look good naked or not, and they're insecure about their own physique and attractiveness in the scheme of things.

Someone asked why nudes would be looked at as a bad thing? Politicians, teachers (yeah, they'll definitely get fired), high powered attorneys, etc., all don't need a blast from the past in the form of nude pictures, unless they're high end famous photographer, elite nudes and even then it will be a blow to the career.

I would never be snarky about another woman doing nudes.

What I do raise my eyebrows about however is the preponderance of 18-24 year old girls who are making $$$$$ off of webcam and hoochie sites who really haven't given their future a thought. The pictures are poor quality up the hoohoo and bumhole shots that have NO artistic value whatsoever, and I really have to wonder if the models have given any thought to their future husbands, or children, or jobs, or whatever.
But even then, I'm not snarky.

Rick Dones wrote:
Other females that do nudes...
I don't really shoot a lot of nudes or erotica anymore but at one time I made my living shooting for mens mags.....Every once in a while some model will be looking at some of my old work and the first comment is to call the nude/erotic model a whore or pig...etc
I've never known of a male model look down on another for doing nudes
WHY???

Jealousy and envy of the model they are viewing. Maybe the prudish one is simply one who would love to do some nude modeling, but lacks the confidence and self comfort that comes with being nude (probably even when she is alone). That's very mental.

jon mmmayhem wrote:
...What I do raise my eyebrows about however is the preponderance of 18-24 year old girls who are making $$$$$ off of webcam and hoochie sites who really haven't given their future a thought. The pictures are poor quality up the hoohoo and bumhole shots that have NO artistic value whatsoever, and I really have to wonder if the models have given any thought to their future husbands, or children, or jobs, or whatever...

As a baby boomer, I couldn't agree with you more regarding this concern.  We get to look at the low standards of popular culture.  Most of these girls will probably think that it's perfectly all right for their daughters to be hoochies.  As a former school teacher, I've already seen evidence of it.  It's a sad commentary on what our society has become.

Herb Way wrote:

As a baby boomer, I couldn't agree with you more regarding this concern.  We get to look at the low standards of popular culture.  Most of these girls will probably think that it's perfectly all right for their daughters to be hoochies.  As a former school teacher, I've already seen evidence of it.  It's a sad commentary on what our society has become.

It's reallllly actuallykind of scary, because I've talked to a lot of these girls, and their mindset is "Oh, I'll just deal with that if it ever happens which I really doubt."
Artistic nudes?
Great.
Good Maxim (insert soft men's mag here) style shots?
Great.

randomteenagedgirllolitanamehere.com style shots, windows, and pictures?
Yeah, the price to be paid for those is yet to be seen.