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kbreak

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Los Angeles, California, US

COURTESTY OF THE ASMP.ORG - http://www.asmp.org/news/spec2006/orphan_update.php

The Orphan Works juggernaut is still rolling on. Thanks to all your faxes to Congress, photographers will have a seat at the table to influence the language of the bill.
Things look grim, but we are still fighting for you.
Status of the Orphan Works proposal: March 10

Things are moving fast on the Orphan Works legislation. As of March 10, there is good news and bad news.

The good news is that your faxes to the Congress definitely were noticed. All of the Senators and Representatives are keenly aware of who we are, and photographers will continue to have "a seat at the table" as this proposal moves forward.

The bad news is that the proposal is moving forward, and it is moving forward quite rapidly. The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Lamar Smith, has said he wants the language finalized and a bill introduced by the end of March.
We have not gotten the major changes we hoped for, and many of the members of the House committee are not especially sympathetic to our position. The Senate committee is not rushing quite so fast, but there too, the clear intention is to pass a bill.

We will continue to work both on Capitol Hill and behind the scenes. It now looks unlikely that we can get the kind of bill we would like, but we may be able to blunt some of the harm this bill will do.
Beginning next week, Congressional staff will be holding closed-door meetings with representatives of the Copyright Office, the major user communities and the creative community. Fortunately, ASMP, PPA and PACA have been invited to participate on behalf of all visual artists. We will let you know how things turn out and what you can do to help.

Of course, we cannot count on the success of our legislative efforts. So, at the same time, ASMP is also investigating what technology solutions might be useful to photographers if this bill does pass.

In the meantime, you can temporarily stop sending faxes to Congress. We have made our point. At some point in the future, it will be time for a second round of pressure politics — but for now, take a well-earned break.
Again, thanks for your impressive work over the past few days. It made a difference.
—Victor Perlman
General Counsel and Managing Director
American Society of Media Photographers, Inc.

Urgent Call for Your Action on Orphan Works
We have been monitoring this proposal for the past year and, suddenly, it has moved onto Congress' front burner. As it stands, it will be a disaster for photographers. Now is the time to act.
Updated on Wednesday, March 8
The following is a letter to ASMP members from Victor Perlman, ASMP's legal counsel.
Dear friend,
I am writing this message while on the train to Washington to meet with Congressional staffers on both the Senate and House sides. The subject is the proposed legislation dealing with so-called "Orphan Works." If you write to your congressional representatives only once in your lifetime, I urge you make Orphan Works legislation that "one time" and to take the action outlined below.

Below is a model letter for you to copy and paste onto your letterhead and fax (yes, FAX) to your own Congressional representatives on both the Senate and House sides, and to the members of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees. A list of names and fax numbers for those committee members follows the draft, along with a link for you to identify and get fax numbers for your own representatives in both houses of Congress.
You will notice that the first sentence in the letter below is blank and that you have to write it in your own words. Why? Because legislators tend to discount letters that are identical, suspecting that they are produced and sent by trade associations in the names of the members with no actual member involvement at all. They want to hear from voters, not pressure groups. The message that should appear in the first sentence or two is that you are a professional photographer and that the proposed Orphan Works legislation would be financially devastating to you if it is enacted in its current form. You can copy and paste the rest, if you wish, but even there it is always best if you use your own words.
**At this time, there is no bill number because the Judiciary Committee members and staffers are still drafting the initial language for the formal bill.
The problem
The U.S. Copyright Office issued its report on Orphan Works (http://www.copyright.gov/orphan/) only a couple of weeks ago.
The end of that report contained proposed language for an amendment to the Copyright Act.
That proposal is now being fast-tracked in Washington with a good chance of passage before the end of this Session.
In my opinion, if that language is enacted in its current form, it will be the worst thing that has happened to independent photographers and other independent visual artists since Work Made for Hire contracts.
Orphan works are basically works whose copyright owners cannot be located. The term "Orphan Works" is really a dangerously misleading phrase. It makes it sound as if it includes only a few works that are not valued enough by their creators to warrant taking care of them. That may be true for owners of many kinds of copyrights. However, the reality is that for independent photographers and illustrators, the majority of your published photographs may well become Orphan Works.
The reason for that is that, unlike just about every other category of copyrighted works, photographs and illustrations are typically published without any copyright notice or credit to the photographer or illustrator.
The one exception to that has traditionally been editorial uses, but even there the trend seems to be away from providing credit lines.
As more and more photographs are published on the Internet, credits become even rarer.
Worse, even if you registered your photographs at the Copyright Office, there is no mechanism for identifying you or your photograph or for locating you through those records, if the user does not know your name.
The full text of the Copyright Office proposal is in this PDF document; the rationale and the
draft language for a bill is the very last section. (For your convenience, the draft language
is reproduced here.) The supporting documents — appendices, public comments,
roundtable transcripts — are on the Orphan Works page of the Copyright Office site.
Under the proposed legislation, a person or other entity who wants to use a copyrighted work is required to make only a "good faith, reasonably diligent search" to locate the copyright owner. If, after making such a search, the user is unable to locate the copyright owner, he/she/it gets an almost free license to use the work. If the copyright owner never comes forward, the user gets to use the work for free. Even if the copyright owner discovers the use and demands payment, the MOST the copyright owner can get is "reasonable compensation," i.e. a reasonable license fee for the use actually made. There is NO possibility of statutory damages or attorneys' fees, even if the work was registered before the use was made without your permission.

Wait, it gets worse: If the copyright owner discovers the use and demands payment, "where the infringement is performed without any purpose of direct or indirect commercial advantage, such as through the sale of copies or phonorecords of the infringed work, and the infringer ceases the infringement expeditiously after receiving notice of the claim for infringement, no award of monetary relief shall be made."
The fact that the potential compensation is so low presents a fatal impediment to collection: if you discover one of your works being used and demand only your reasonable licensing fee, but the person refuses to pay, you cannot afford to sue to collect the minimal amount to which you are entitled. Without the possibility of an award of attorneys' fees or statutory damages, no lawyer would take your case; and if he or she did, you would end up paying far more legal fees than you could possibly collect.

The bottom line is that, even if you have done everything right, including registering your photographs immediately at the Copyright Office, every photograph that you publish may be up for grabs if it doesn't have a published credit. Yes, people have to contact publishers to try to identify and locate you, but if that doesn't produce your name and/or contact information for any reason, they may be entitled to a free, or almost free, pass.
What we are doing
ASMP has formed a coalition of organizations which I am representing in connection with Orphan Works that includes the Graphic Artists Guild, the National Press Photographers Association, the Stock Artists Alliance, Advertising Photographers of America, Editorial Photographers, Professional Photographers of America, the Illustrators Partnership of America (which carries with it approximately 40 other organizations), and the Picture Archive Council of America (with their General Counsel Nancy Wolff). Some of the other photographers organizations that we have approached have not yet responded to us, so that list may grow.
Canadian photographers also have a considerable stake in the matter. The Canadian Association of Photographers and Illustrators in Communications (CAPIC) is working to educate its members about this threat.

Overseas photographers are also concerned with this issue. In the UK, the Association of Photographers Ltd (AOP), British Association of Picture Libraries and Agencies (BAPLA), British Institute of Professional Photography, British Photographers' Liaison Committee, Chartered Institute of Journalists, Design and Artists Copyright Society, National Union of Journalists, and Picture Researchers Association have joined the coalition. On the Continent, Pyramide Europe, Union des Photographers Créateurs (France), Association of Professional Photographers of Spain, Association of Swedish Professional Photographers and Finnfoto (Finland) have joined. Although their political clout is necessarily indirect, their economic interests are definitely at stake. Not only would an Orphan Works law change the nature of the U.S. market, but it could set up pressure for similar laws in other countries.
ASMP is working on the Hill to try to change this proposed legislation. We are also exploring possible non-legislative fixes. However, what we really need is letters from as many ASMP members as possible.

I try not to ask for member help unless it is really necessary because I don't want our members to appear to legislators to be people who simply write on every issue, no matter how important or unimportant it might be. Right now, I am pleading with you to take action. This is a big one, gang, and we really need to work together here.
Thank you for your help,
Vic
Victor S. Perlman
General Counsel and Managing Director
American Society of Media Photographers, Inc. (ASMP)
150 North Second Street Philadelphia, PA 19106-1912
Phone: 215-451-ASMP Ext. 1207
Fax: 215-451-0880
E-mail: [email protected]
URL: http://www.asmp.org
________________________________________
A draft letter (for you to adapt)
Re: Orphan Works Copyright Legislation
Dear (Senator or Representative) ____________________:
(Fill in first sentence) ____________________________________________________. The amendment to the Copyright Act proposed by the U.S. Copyright Office is a disaster in the making for independent photographers and other independent creators of visual works. We are different from all other copyright owners because, unlike other creators, it is the exception rather than the rule that our images are published with any kind of credit line, copyright notice or other form of attribution. Credits are unusual in print publications, and are virtually non-existent on the Internet. Without names attached to them, most published images are likely to become Orphan Works.
The proposal for dealing with Orphan Works is based on an erroneous assumption on the part of the Copyright Office: See footnote 378 on page 115 of Copyright Office report, ".... The likelihood of statutory damages or attorneys' fees being awarded in an orphan works case is probably low, given that for those remedies to be available, the work must have been registered prior to infringement, see 17 U.S.C. section 412, and if a work is registered it is unlikely that the copyright owner is unlocatable through a diligent search." This simply is not true for published works of visual images. Without credit lines or other attribution, there is no way to know a photographer's name in most cases. Without a name, there is no way to search the Copyright Office records for a photograph.
As written, the proposal might work for copyright owners of other types of works, but for independent creators of visual images, it will end up converting massive numbers of images, and probably the majority of published images, to Orphan Work status.
Making the situation even worse, with recovery for infringements of Orphan Works limited to reasonable compensation with no possibility of receiving attorneys' fees, independent photographers and illustrators are left with no practical way of receiving compensation from a user who refuses to pay. It would simply cost more to sue than the possible compensation at issue.
I implore you to fix the proposed Orphan Works legislation so that it will not deprive photographers of protection under the Copyright Act. At a minimum, I ask you to include either a provision to allow recovery of attorney's fees or to create some form of small claims court to award compensation, especially where a user of an apparent Orphan Work refuses to pay after receiving a demand from the copyright owner. If you do not, this legislation may well put me out of business.
Thank you for your time, attention and, I hope, support.
Respectfully yours,
(your name)

Mar 14 06 01:29 pm Link

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Posts: 4576

In 4 hours, this thread dropped down a dozen posts on the page with ZERO replies.

But the "When the model strips nude in front of you" thread has over 200.

Ah, what a sad and deadly epidemic is apathy.

Mar 14 06 05:29 pm Link

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Starstruck Foto

Posts: 73

Chicago, Illinois, US

Eric Muss-Barnes wrote:
In 4 hours, this thread dropped down a dozen posts on the page with ZERO replies.

But the "When the model strips nude in front of you" thread has over 200.

Ah, what a sad and deadly epidemic is apathy.

That just goes to show the difference of concern between established working professional photographers and the rank hobbists that tend to make up the majority of this site.

Mar 14 06 06:15 pm Link

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Vance C McDaniel

Posts: 7609

Los Angeles, California, US

Yes very funny....

Carack me up that while all the other "crap" is going on in the forums...Nobody seems to be yackin it up about thios. And this IS BIG...

We are looking into solutions at my company now to protect our work. It's going to cost us money but we are looking at several ways to track our works. Tough call because the internet presents a major problem.

Gonna be an uphill battle...

Mar 14 06 06:24 pm Link

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Alex Mercatali

Posts: 453

Forlì, Emilia-Romagna, Italy

first thing that comes into my mind, WaterMark?
to have online only photos of which I don't care less?
going back to film?! yikes
wait! I'm not a photographer, I'm an amateur o.O 
I don't need to worry about my "works", no one would possibly use it smile

Mar 14 06 06:39 pm Link

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Vance C McDaniel

Posts: 7609

Los Angeles, California, US

RoninGarou wrote:
first thing that comes into my mind, WaterMark?
to have online only photos of which I don't care less?
going back to film?! yikes
wait! I'm not a photographer, I'm an amateur o.O 
I don't need to worry about my "works", no one would possibly use it smile

You need to read the entire bill. A water mark isnt going to protect you. I know you are being funny, but you dont ubderstand the dynamics of what is going on. As a matter of fact, it is YOU who those of us who are actively involved are trying to protect. GO READ

Mar 14 06 06:42 pm Link

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Brandon Smith

Posts: 1562

San Diego, California, US

I figured I'd bump it up again.  Lots of language to read but well worth the read.  In fact...models should be reading this to as it trickles down to them as well. 

B

Mar 14 06 06:42 pm Link

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Philip of Dallas

Posts: 834

Dallas, Texas, US

Yeah, this is pure crap!

One has to wonder: Why after all these years do they want to radically change the existing copyright laws. Wonder who would gain from this change. Publishers? You can bet someone's behind this to make a profit, to the detriment of artists and photographers.

Mar 14 06 06:50 pm Link

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500 Gigs of Desire

Posts: 3833

New York, New York, US

I still feel the best way of preventing online theft and commercial use of "stolen" images is slapping a big copyright on the image, namely somewhere where it would take hours to clone out.
IF, and thats a BIG if, a potential client sees our work online, for instance on a site like this, and were impressed with our images and photographic skill, I doubt they wouldn't hire us because we had a copyright in the middle of our images.

Mar 14 06 06:59 pm Link

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Alex Mercatali

Posts: 453

Forlì, Emilia-Romagna, Italy

kbreak wrote:
Worse, even if you registered your photographs at the Copyright Office, there is no mechanism for identifying you or your photograph or for locating you through those records, if the user does not know your name.

Let me see, I've read, not that I understand everything in law language on a foreign language but whatever, could someone explain how a photo with watermark, and registered with copyright, can't be tracked down to the one who created it?
I don't think that if you put your photo online, they're orphan, there's usually plenty of info about them.
So the problem is not being orphan imho, but the fact that if the one who use them, was in his good trust they're orphan, you're screwed.
That's why I was sayin to go back on film and not put online photos of wich I care.
On a side note, I already know photographers and even models, whose don't put their best images online due to this kind of problem.

Mar 14 06 07:02 pm Link

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Jerry Bennett

Posts: 2223

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Thanks for posting this. It seems that whenever I think our supposed representatives in government can't possibly get any more evil, disgusting and corrupt, they prove me wrong.

Mar 14 06 07:11 pm Link

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Jerry Bennett

Posts: 2223

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

I reposted this on my Myspace and Livejournal pages. Maybe you should repost it in the Photog forum?

Mar 14 06 08:05 pm Link

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bear_mkt

Posts: 74

Paramus, New Jersey, US

Thanks for the post - almost missed it.
Another example of the cannons loose on the decks in Washington these days.
Unfortunately, I imagine that photography has even less support than independent journalism in DC.

Mar 14 06 11:29 pm Link

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Jwill266

Posts: 449

Louisville, Kentucky, US

This would be a disaster! We should go on strike. I wonder if all the artists actually stuck together and all photogs stayed home for a week, how many people would be on our side then.

Mar 14 06 11:45 pm Link

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Vance C McDaniel

Posts: 7609

Los Angeles, California, US

Eric S. wrote:
I still feel the best way of preventing online theft and commercial use of "stolen" images is slapping a big copyright on the image, namely somewhere where it would take hours to clone out.
IF, and thats a BIG if, a potential client sees our work online, for instance on a site like this, and were impressed with our images and photographic skill, I doubt they wouldn't hire us because we had a copyright in the middle of our images.

Ok, but tat only pertains to portfolio images. Let's say you licensed a piece of artwork out to someone and they used it. then somepone else stole that image. Follow me?


There are plenty of ways to steal an image once it leaves your desktop or studio. The question is what rights do you have and what are your legal options?

Mar 14 06 11:51 pm Link

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Sleepy Weasel

Posts: 4839

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Can we get some bolding in that first post? Sheesh.

Mar 15 06 12:01 am Link

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Dee

Posts: 3004

Toledo, Ohio, US

I posted this on my forum site...This is just another way we get to take it up the ass....

Mar 15 06 12:03 am Link

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Alex Mercatali

Posts: 453

Forlì, Emilia-Romagna, Italy

Vance wrote:
The question is what rights do you have and what are your legal options?

if the law become effective, it seems none, but there's a possible  loophole.
it say that they can use it and you wouldn't receive any money even if it was copyrighted, if they do it without taking any profit of it.
not making money uh? yeah they probably won't make money of your work, but on the contrary they're in fact not paying you for your service and with this they're having a profit!
so a good attorney could use this point as loophole.
and I really can't imagine how to use an image without taking any kind of income.

pratical examples, one of my photo get used in a flyer for an event in some club,
so they get money from the event. or i can insist that using that photo made more people come to the event, and so on.

probably this law is only to get more ppl become attorney sad
or for stock company to get more photos avaiable on the net without paying for them, but they make a money out of it, so I really can't see whose behind all these

Mar 15 06 03:08 am Link

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megafunk

Posts: 2594

Los Angeles, California, US

This requires 9 AM eyes instead of 1:40 AM eyes.

Mar 15 06 03:35 am Link

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Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

Really, this is a ridiculously lame piece of legislation.  Poorly written and obviously written without consideration of artists, but rather larger institutions who were pushing for this legislation.

Mar 15 06 03:57 am Link

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J C ModeFotografie

Posts: 14718

Los Angeles, California, US

Eric S. wrote:
I still feel the best way of preventing online theft and commercial use of "stolen" images is slapping a big copyright on the image, namely somewhere where it would take hours to clone out.
IF, and thats a BIG if, a potential client sees our work online, for instance on a site like this, and were impressed with our images and photographic skill, I doubt they wouldn't hire us because we had a copyright in the middle of our images.

Hello Eric - someone here already demonstrated to me how quickly he was able to remove my info/copyright notice off an image I had posted here. 

This piece of legislation must be defeated - if not defeated, then challenged with an amicus curiae brief sent to the highest court in the land.  God Help Us!!!

JAY carreon
PHOTOGRAPHER

Mar 15 06 04:02 am Link

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Benjamin Dickerson

Posts: 70

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Eric Muss-Barnes wrote:
In 4 hours, this thread dropped down a dozen posts on the page with ZERO replies.

But the "When the model strips nude in front of you" thread has over 200.

Ah, what a sad and deadly epidemic is apathy.

great call.

Mar 15 06 05:01 am Link

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Voltaire

Posts: 202

Los Angeles, California, US

That piece of legislation is so wrong that if our country adopts it we may as well all throw our cameras into the toilet.

Mar 15 06 05:29 am Link

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American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

Eric Muss-Barnes wrote:
In 4 hours, this thread dropped down a dozen posts on the page with ZERO replies.

But the "When the model strips nude in front of you" thread has over 200.

Ah, what a sad and deadly epidemic is apathy.

pomophobe wrote:
great call.

True, but this is the fourth time we have had this discussion.  I think we all know about this legislation.

I, for one, e-mailed about twenty congressmen and senators.  I mentioned that in a post a week ago.

I agree, this is a critical subject, but there is only so much you can say about it except, everyone needs to e-mail or FAX their congressmen.  I hope I am not the only one to put forth the effort.

Mar 15 06 05:35 am Link

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Pursuing Art

Posts: 7

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Philip of Dallas wrote:
Yeah, this is pure crap!

One has to wonder: Why after all these years do they want to radically change the existing copyright laws. Wonder who would gain from this change. Publishers? You can bet someone's behind this to make a profit, to the detriment of artists and photographers.

I have to agree.   I'm a bit cynical but that's never stopped me from making a comment (smile).  I usually summarize government actions as follows:

"Is what's being proposed going to benefit the wealthy?  Will it be to the detriment of the non-wealthy?  Then you can (cynically) assume passage."

What I can't figure out is the "beneficiary" of the bill.  Once that's figured out, then one can figure the chance of stopping it.

Mar 15 06 06:13 pm Link

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Robert Fishback Photogr

Posts: 17

Cattaraugus, New York, US

I think maybe I should go back to school and become a lawyer. Of all the things we have to deal with in being photographers.

Stock agencies sending out to bid photo assignments:

"Welcome to the brave new world of custom stock. Companies such as On Request Images and Index Stock Imagery are creating disruptive new business models based on a somewhat imaginative merger of assignment photography and stock images."

Quote from ASMP article "www.asmpnorcal.org/events/event.html"

And now it is even easier to copy and use images you do not even own. Suing for copyright violation is tough enough and the return isn't always that lucrative if or when you are compensated for your loss. Winning the lawsuit takes money. Collecting is a whole different ball game.

It seems as time goes on, our profitability is dwindling to the level of shooting kids on ponies.

Mar 16 06 10:31 pm Link

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The House of Lethal

Posts: 472

Atlanta, Georgia, US

thats on sick proposal. would it effect models who need to be paid for the use of their images?

Mar 16 06 10:43 pm Link

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SMK Images

Posts: 743

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!! I had no idea about any of this crap! It never stops amazing my how stupid our "elected officials" are!

Mar 16 06 10:51 pm Link

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American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

I am starting to wonder if everyone is interested in the tittilating and ignore the important.  This is the fourth thread on this subject and people don't seem to understand.  The government wants to gut the copyright laws!

You are right, people aren't taking this seriously.

Mar 16 06 11:44 pm Link

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bob cooley

Posts: 81

New York, New York, US

Alan from Aavian Prod wrote:
I am starting to wonder if everyone is interested in the tittilating and ignore the important.  This is the fourth thread on this subject and people don't seem to understand.  The government wants to gut the copyright laws!

You are right, people aren't taking this seriously.

The reason for this is that the majority of users on this site care more about seeing girls naked than upholding the craft. 

One of the biggest issues we have always faced a profession that is also a vocation is that we have always been (generally) in charge of our own destinies in the marketplace.

As photographers, we are (80%+ of the time), independant contractors, owners of our own businesses, and only through organizations such as the NPPA and the ASMP have we been able to collectively influence the marketplace.

Those same "guys with cameras" are the same people who step in and fulfill our clients' needs when our clients are willing to accept work that is "good enough" (the worst phrase in the english language) and that costs them less because the guys with cameras aren't concerned with the ethics, or reponsibilty to the profession nearly as much as they are concerned with using the medium (and the pretense of being a professional) to play. 

I'll note here that I'm not equating the "gwc"s with the inexperienced.  A photographer can be inexperienced and/or young, but still care about the craft, and what happens to us as photographers (artists/professionals).

But so many of the "gwc"s on the internet are merely concerned with fulfilling their fantasies, and their egos.

The 'net was one of the best things, and simultaneously the worst thing that ever happened to our craft.

Mar 19 06 12:50 pm Link