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Who came up with the whole idea of TFP/TFCD?
if it werent for my tfp shoots, i wouldnt have gotten a part in a fashion show!  and I too, think tfp benefits both model and photographer. ugh, why do people keep naggin about this? Either you are willing to do TFP or you're not...if someone asks you for tfp and you dont want to do it, just move on. there's always the delete button folks... and Yiselle, I pay make up artists when I have TFP shoots! Although, I bring my own foundation and concealer lolMar 14 06 05:33 pm Link DAN DOYLE STUDIO wrote: Get a clue, no one is getting anything for free, the model is investing her time and the photographer is investing his time, cash is not always necessary as payment. Mar 14 06 05:35 pm Link Porchia wrote: The big deal is people have to have something to gripe about, guess this was all the OP could come up with. Testing (TFP) as been around since photography, it's here, it's not going anywhere do them or don't but quit beatin' this dead horse. Mar 14 06 05:40 pm Link Tim Hammond wrote: Isn't that something like what the governement has done to the people as well? Mar 14 06 05:50 pm Link Jack D Trute wrote: Sounds like you have some issues to get thru...possibly before anyone takes you seriously as a photographer. Mar 14 06 08:42 pm Link Mar 14 06 10:46 pm Link Mar 14 06 10:47 pm Link Mar 14 06 10:47 pm Link BasementStudios wrote: ummmmmmmm" GET A CLUE"?????? WTF? Mar 14 06 10:56 pm Link 00siris wrote: Why are they a problem, exactly? Mar 15 06 12:01 am Link Mar 15 06 12:05 am Link DAN DOYLE STUDIO wrote: I don't think D. Brian's camera is new... Mar 15 06 12:05 am Link I guess everyone has explained their concept of TFP as in trading. I don't think it is all necessarily ego. I can understand why a photographer would want to charge after spending thousands of dollars on equipment for a business. I don't fault anyone that. Especially if the model he is working with has invested very little into her work in comparison. However, the one thing you have forgotten from your point of view as a photographer is that not all models have minimum investment. Some of us models also spend a great deal of money and travel time to work with photographers. Use me as an example. I design pretty much all of my costumes and regular clothing or buy them. I'm not talking halloween here. Some of these costumes take me 50+ hours to create and materials can become very costly. LIke a photographers camera, I also have a $200 sewing machine and a $200 serger, plus an iron, tools and other necessary equipment to make these items. I could easily buy a more expensive sewing machine but it does the trick. I've even purchased costumes for over $1000 or bought interesting outfits. Then add on all the different makeup that I have. A color or style for every costume. Hell I even have blacklight makeup. Don't forget wigs too. Buying quality accessories or makeup isn't cheap. So I could easily say that I have just as much money invested into my costumes and makeup as any photographer has invested in his equipment. Why should I be viewed as a freeloader? I have every right to charge a photographer to use me as a model, but I don't always. I do this for the fun and art. No different from any photographer who does it for the art and also money also. I trade my time because I like to see beautiful pictures of my costumes and I think that photographers like to have unique pictures for their portfolio. Sometimes I even do normal photographs (bikini/fashion) for a photographer in trade for having him take pictures of one of my costumes. We both get what we want. In terms of travel expenses, I am willing to share those too. If one of us travels over 40 miles to see the other, then we split gas and provide refreshments. I can respect someone's desire to make money with their camera, just as I can respect a model who wants someone to pay for her use. Everyone has an investment here. So don't view photographers as a victim of TFP, getting the raw end of the deal. I've seen enough iffy photography on this website to know that sometimes the models get the rough end of the stick. Mar 16 06 08:18 am Link |
