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PLEASE! Answer this question,it's driving me nuts!
*****VENT WARNING******** I honestly HAVE to ask this, And i swear i'm not being a smart ass AND if this has been asked b4 ,i'm sorry,never saw the thread (yeah yeah search button)........ Ok, i was just looking at the "Travel Notices" ,and i kept seeing "paid model" ,and saying what city they will be in and so on ,SOOOO i was curious and wanted 2 see if half of the models are even worth being called a paid model or at LEAST are good at modeling period. Um, I'm at loss 4 words......I have plenty of experience and have done numerous photoshoots ,and will never put "PAID MODEL" anywhere in a title cause i honestly don't think i will ever be classified as being THAT great of a model to say that.....I have been paid lots of times after a shoot,unexpecting it !!!! Some photogs are actually really that nice,but i never expect it,and never ask......But come on !!!(read my mind! You know what i'm getting at) ......Do they REALLY think they will get paid so they say what the hell ,i'm going to say "paid model" .......I guess anyone with a webcam or have plenty of GWC pics in there port can say "paid model" ........Man o' man ,i hope some of you know,what i'm trying to say, without being mean .......cause i'm not trying to be,I love everyone and hope the best for anyone that wants to be a model !!! I'm actually a "NICE MODEL" lol if you get offended here is a *HUG* and i am sorry ........gee now i feel bad if i hurt someones feelings  Mar 09 06 08:41 pm Link sweetheart......unfortunately you are preaching to the choir  Mar 09 06 08:43 pm Link Prin S lea wrote: models arent supposed to be paid by photogs, they are supposed to be paid by clients. Any model who calls herself a "paid" model on one of these sites is probably just some really desperate girl willing to pose nude for some random pervert. She wont get any good images out of it, or anything to put on her resume, but hey she'll get cash! Mar 09 06 08:45 pm Link If they are worth it, those who find them so will pay them. Why should it matter to you? Mar 09 06 08:46 pm Link So, as I understand it...models who are "dumb" enough to "model" for free take objection to those who get PAID (or insist on getting paid)? Silliness. Where is that supply vs. demand chart when we need one. People are free to charge/pay whatever they wish for their modeling/photography services. Whether or not they find anyone willing to pay what they are asking is another matter. Mar 09 06 08:49 pm Link DeBoer Photography wrote: yeah i agree Mar 09 06 08:52 pm Link DeBoer Photography wrote: OH DEAR LORD !!! I didn't hurt anyone ,i was asking a question as nice as i could be,no? Mar 09 06 09:00 pm Link DeBoer Photography wrote: A voice of reason. Mar 09 06 09:02 pm Link P.S. For those of you "beautiful" models who keep ragging on the "ugly" models who get PAID work...maybe YOU should get a clue... If they are THAT ugly (amateur, whatever) ...and gettiing PAID work... and YOU want PAID work but are not getting any.... Maybe you should study what THEY are doing? Modeling (and being successful at it... i.e., making a living $$$ from it) isn't simply about looking good in front of the camera. That is the "easy" part. The hard part is in keeping yourself in demand enough that people are willing to keep paying $$$ to use you in their images/products. The same applies to photographers...from their perspective....it..i.e., taking "good" or "great" pictures doesn't ensure success as a working $$$ photographer. It is KNOWING how to get people to pay $$$ that will determine if you sink or float. Many "crappy" photographers make a fine living from photography... Want to learn how those models/photographers do it? Stop knocking them and start studying them. Mar 09 06 09:04 pm Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: And we the choir raise our voices in praise of the angel Isabel Aurora. C'mon everybody...join me in another chorus of "Ave Isabela"... Mar 09 06 09:09 pm Link Some models do this as a hobby, some as a career. Some wish to get paid, some don't. Some are good, some are bad, lots are in between. Some classify themselves as professional, some don't. Etc, etc, etc.... Why any one model chooses to be one thing or the other is as varied as the models themselves. It's really not a big deal one way or the other, honestly. Find the photographers you want to work with, negotiate TFP or paid as you wish, and have fun shooting- everything else as far as what others have on their profiles is a learning tool. Whether it's something you aspire to be or not to be, that's up to you. Mar 09 06 10:27 pm Link I know full-time professional models who chose modeling because they love it, but who HAVE to get paid. It's how they make a living. Those who look down on models who pose to pay the rent should try it before thinking themselves superior because they're "making art," while others, in their view, are just hustling. Mar 09 06 11:10 pm Link Prin S lea wrote: Lea, Mar 10 06 02:20 am Link To the OP, My apologies if I have offended you with my above posting. Re-read everything again...and see if you can find the REAL reason for my reply... Mar 10 06 02:37 am Link Ed Burns Photography wrote: Mar 10 06 06:41 am Link Hmmmm, I understand the OP's frustration. There is certainly nothing wrong with wanting to help people out and there is clearly nothing wrong with doing TFP. However, I am not sure why you resent models wanting to be paid. Clearly photographers want to be paid. There is this skewed view that photographers don't pay models unless they are being paid by clients. That is a little nonesensical. There are many occassions where photographers pay on their own. Two come to mind right off. The first is when they shoot for stock. They take photos speculatively, pick up the tab and hope that they will sell the photos. The second is when a photographer is a producer in and of himself. As an example, what if a photographer wants to produce a calendar. He will be the one hiring and paying the talent. There is another occassion where a photographer will pay talent. Tha is when he wants to shoot a particular model, simply because he wants to and the model doesn't want to work for free. This happens all the time. There are serious hobbyists out there that hire talent. There are photographers that want to work on a particular concept and have someone they want to do it with. Models get paid every day. All of that having been said, there is the reality that photographers get hired by clients as well. In that case, either the client or the photographer pays the model. This is a business. So I applaud your willingness to work for free, but let's not bash the models that are trying to get paid. When a model posts a paid travel notice she is simply saying that she is looking for work. That doesn't mean she will get it, but I can tell you there are plenty of models who do travel and make a decent living. Good luck to the OP. I applaud your dedication. Mar 10 06 06:54 am Link |
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