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Is any beginner model serious about modeling here?
Or do I just suck that bad. Sure am having a hard time finding anyone willing to do more than just talk about setting up a shoot. Mar 07 06 11:27 am Link Maybe you are seeking out the wrong models for your style of work. Mar 07 06 11:31 am Link So I should be seeking out more experiened models? All models I contact claim to be willing to do fetish/erotic type photographs. Mar 07 06 11:33 am Link Okay, so you are asking fetish models, good start. How many have you contacted? Mar 07 06 11:36 am Link Just about everyone I find local. MM and OMP alike. Most never respond, some respond once or twice then disappear. Your portfolio kicks ass by the way. Great work. Mar 07 06 11:38 am Link Thanks, Maybe it's your approach? Mar 07 06 11:42 am Link OK. Any suggestions? Mar 07 06 11:43 am Link i agree with katie...from what ive seen a lot of the "regular "models don't really get into the fetish type stuff and a lot of the models that do the fetish type stuff pretty much just do that...id say you'd want to definately allow escorts (just so they know youre not just some perv who bought a digital camera)...but yeah,it's not you man,it's just the style...i mean if you asked me to do tfp(not that you would)I would decline but only because you only shoot that style... Mar 07 06 11:43 am Link Worst case scenario, you have to pay a few models till your port grows. Mar 07 06 11:54 am Link im a begginer model.. and im serious but your sooo far  Mar 07 06 11:56 am Link Perhaps I should add a few casual photos? Mar 07 06 12:07 pm Link Chantellee wrote: Mar 07 06 12:19 pm Link I don't know. Your work looks more glamore oriented to me rather than fetish. Perhaps more models would be willing to do glam projects? You also might think about going to the NWPhoto Exchange group meeting headed by Craig Thompson (MM#14190) each month in Tacoma. It would help some local models to put a face to the name. Also try contacting Willow or Jamie at SeattleFashionIndustry.com They keep in touch with local models. Mar 07 06 12:19 pm Link I have run into much the same problem. Local models I contact often do not even respond. I have ended up getting models from much further away than my immediate geographical area (I also paid for travel.) I guess lots of models like the idea of travelling. Or... perhaps there is something to be said about the old adage "You are never an expert in your hometown." I like what you have on your port. I really would not even describe it as fetish. It has a hard edged appeal perhaps but I find it provocative and "real." I really like "Haircut." Keep up the good work and good luck. Mar 07 06 12:20 pm Link Thanks Jay and Mark for the resources and feedback Mar 07 06 12:22 pm Link I have done alot of adult work and looking to get into mainstream modeling. With the exception of nude photography (which is my fav). If you are interested in shooting me then let me know. I dont have time to play mind games so if you are truely interested then please hit me back. Lexi Mar 07 06 12:26 pm Link T Edward Glazar wrote: Lots of communication......straight up and to the point of what you are looking to do and finding out if they are comfortable doing the same or have any ideas that you might not have thought of. If you wanted to take it that far. For me....when I work with people. It is important to be able to have conversation with them, know their personality and if we even mesh well together. What we are both trying to accomplish from the potential shoot. Mar 07 06 12:27 pm Link Lexie_Leigh wrote: zing. there ya go. Mar 07 06 12:29 pm Link I'm new at modeling but am completely serious about modeling. I hope your lucky goes better. Mar 07 06 12:30 pm Link Why don't you put a post in the casting calls section? Mar 07 06 12:39 pm Link Nemi wrote: Mar 07 06 12:42 pm Link A good online dialogue is so helpful. Especially when you live where I do. Thanks everyone. Mar 07 06 12:43 pm Link I say, if you are willing to pay, post a casting call. They will come to you then. If you are seeking tfp/cd , post a call too, just may not get that many responses. I also encounter a similar "no-shoot-resulting" set of back and forth communication. However, you just gotta keep going at it. I mean, just yesterday, I approached a young lady here, and we shot last night. That is her image as my current avatar. She is beautiful, and obviously, NOT a flake. Mar 07 06 12:44 pm Link i rented my studio last month to a fairley popular and exceptional fetish photographer from the north east...he rented the place for two days and although he probably could have many models trade for prints, he hired some of the best fetish models in my area...he filled the studio with models.. apparently..thats how its done..you need to hire the models... Mar 07 06 12:46 pm Link T Edward Glazar wrote: If I were a fetish model, I would say: Come to Kansas City next weekend and you can shoot me for free. I'll even buy you dinner. Unless you're willing to do glamour. . .in which case. . .offer stands as proposed. Mar 07 06 12:59 pm Link Would you like to post a typical first-approach email here, so we can see how you word your request? Maybe there's something in there that's off-putting without you realizing it. Mar 07 06 01:15 pm Link Good idea. Unfortunately I just sent one but didn't save it. I'll try to repeat it. Hi ______, I'm a photographer based in Port Angeles Wa. seeking models who need help building portfolios. I cannot pay models at present, but would like to offer you some fresh images for your portfolio. My portfolio here on MM contains the content I am most interested in shooting, but I DO NOT limit myself to that style. I remain open to your suggestions and ideas. What type of modeling are you intersted in and what are you comfortable with. I am available this weekend and will travel, though I do have a few very unique locations here in Port Angeles to shoot. Your work looks great so far. Hope to hear back from you soon Thanks T. Edward Glazar Something like this Mar 07 06 01:27 pm Link Okay, here are the two suggestions that I would make that might help: 1. Don't sound apologetic for not offering cash, it puts you behind from the get-go, and makes it sound like you should be offering money for what you're asking, but are too poor to do so. Bad first impression. Always discuss what you're offering in compensation in positive terms, not negative. Try re-working that to offer prints/web images/CDs (or whatever you're offering) as a positive, as something that is totally worth their time to get their hands on. 2. You're too vague. Try proposing a specific project, with details about the kind of images you want, exactly why you want that particular model and what you'd like to do, and what you hope that you and she get out of it. I find as a model that when I approach photographers and say, "Wow, you rock, let's shoot sometime!" they often either ignore me, or say the same in return, but nothing ever happens. If, on the other hand, I contact them and say, "I have this project I'm thinking about, which is such-and-such, and I'd like you involved because you do something-or-other, and x-y-z are my goals for this - would you be interested?" my odds of getting a response go WAY up. Might try that. (Though yes, as you say, it can be a right pain in the ass to get people to respond. A certain amount of that just comes with the territory, I'm afraid.) Mar 07 06 01:35 pm Link Thanks Shyly, that was extremely helpful. Mar 07 06 01:37 pm Link Shyly hit that right on key. Especially on point number 2. Shyly wrote: Mar 07 06 01:40 pm Link could use more feedback so I'm bumping this thread again Mar 07 06 01:49 pm Link Yeah don't get down on yourself bro, the internet is still a scary place for people, someone new is still leery about whos who and whats what. I'd suggest hiring some more experienced models, paying them if you have to and getting some more shots of models who are on here, building up some online creds for your port. New models are often starry eyed, so the better your port the better your chance of using them. The other benefit of working with experienced models is that they're, well, experienced, so they can help you progress. Just my perspective, in addition to what she said about your letter. Mar 07 06 01:51 pm Link I agree with shyly ( as per usual) Also, Your message sounds like a "copy and paste" job. I am less likely to want to talk to someone who mass mails models the same message. (Alliteration!) Writing something to personalize the message helps. Mar 07 06 01:55 pm Link I had a lingerie / St Patrick Day theme shoot scheduled for today with an MM model with some experience. We have been planning it for over a week, talking on the phone and exchanging emails. I went out and bought some stockings, garters, panties, bras and St Patrick day accessories for the shoot. Chatted online last night with her and everything was a go. I have called and left her several voice mails this morning. Left one for her just to call me back and let me know if she couldn't make it. Have not heard from her. Was pissed at first, but now I'm just disappointed. That's life. Made a few phone calls to other models, with more experience, and hope to get the shoot in later this week. I'll keep you posted. Mar 07 06 01:59 pm Link Not a copy and paste job Katie but I understand what you mean. Also, I'm a poet so I'm a little confused about what you mean by Alliteration! Mar 07 06 02:03 pm Link T Edward Glazar wrote: "Mass Mails Models" Mar 07 06 02:08 pm Link LOL. Sorry, I've been considering all of this as important feedback so I thought you were telling me that using alliteration might help. Mar 07 06 02:14 pm Link looking for dudes? looking to travel to VA? ahha Mar 07 06 02:16 pm Link Brandon Cordon wrote: Will you shoot in vintage lingerie? Mar 07 06 02:19 pm Link I personally am still kinda new to this whole thing. I only just started in July. I know that me and alot of my friends who are models don't usually do fetish work unless it's with someone we know well, is refered by someone we know well, or who is paying in some way shape or form (cash is usually prefered but maybe we get to keep some clothes or props, get dinner, cigarettes, etc). I know though that I love it when photographers who I have not worked with before bring an idea to the table and present it in their first contact with me. I have a lot of great ideas in my brainstorming scrap book, but I refuse to offer them to photographers unless I've worked with them before that way I know who can carry out my ideas the best and I don't waste a great idea on someone who is only mediocre. Photographers should do the same. They should thoroughly examine the model's portfolio, check out referals people have made about them, and find out from other photographers who have already worked with the model how reliable he/she is. I hope this helps some! I do like your style! Everyone gets flakes though. It's like pulling teeth to schedule a date to work with one photographer and the funny thing is, he contacted me first! lol Mar 07 06 02:48 pm Link |
