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I was wondering if setting up back to back(shooting with one photographer one day and a different one the very next) shoots with different photographers is insulting. I wouldn't want to insult anyone but I really need the work as I am a new model. Give me your thoughts on this. ~Flip Mar 05 06 12:34 pm Link as long as you show up on both, I don't see any reason why they should feel insulted LOL..good luck!  Mar 05 06 12:37 pm Link I can't much imagine that it would be... Mar 05 06 12:37 pm Link I'm a new model too, but I really can't see how that would be insulting. It sounds like you're just doing well. If that IS insulting though...I feel awful..as I've probably insulted a lot of people. I wouldn't worry about it. Mar 05 06 12:37 pm Link Not insulting at all. If you're planning to travel for a shoot, it's a smart idea to maximize time. Just ask what they plan to shoot so as to not duplicate looks/ideas. Dhaniel Mar 05 06 12:38 pm Link Thanks. Mar 05 06 12:38 pm Link Being in demand doesn't suck. The only photographers who would be insulted are "photographer/managers" who would consider you "theirs". Mar 05 06 12:41 pm Link Well it wouldn't be insulting to me. Cause on the same notion I could shoot one model one day and even later that day shoot another model. No biggie I would think. Less of course there is an exclusive contract signed... but that would be extremely rare and well... stupid L()L Mar 05 06 12:41 pm Link Not at all ! As long as you didn't cut the first shoot short of the agreed upon time, to get to the second one. Mar 05 06 12:43 pm Link Not a problem here... BUT I do draw the line at what one model did about a year ago... She wanted to do a commecial type shoot involving an outdoor setting with laptop/cell phone as props. We went ahead with the shoot and all turned out well. Two days later I find out she did the same type shoot, same props, same pose, even same clothing with 2 other photog's! Weird huh? I think she went back to teaching recently... Mar 05 06 12:44 pm Link I've worked with models in the morning who needed to be done by a certain time so they could make an evening shoot with another photographer. I wasn't the least bit insulted by this. Flip Ashley wrote: Mar 05 06 12:45 pm Link heck you could even do it the same day, for all that some of us care.... it's about the same as a Photographer working 2 models at the same time. I've done it on several occasions, I just make sure BOTH know about the other. I start with who ever is ready first!, then while that one is changing, resting or what ever, I shoot the other one. using this method I get both done and out the door in 4-5 hours for something that would of taken me 8-9 sperately....(that's MY plus) to the models benefit, they may see something they like, and want me to shoot them that way.... Mar 05 06 12:46 pm Link Rich Mohr wrote: That would suck and be stupid I don't see why you would do the same shoot with different photgs. It seems like that would limit the good pics for your portfolio as well as make you seem one sided. Mar 05 06 12:47 pm Link Flip Ashley wrote: Good question! It shows you have consideration for the photographer. Mar 05 06 12:58 pm Link No, I booked and shot with two models in a borrowed studio back to back. One was from 10am till noon and the second was from noon till 2pm. Both were on time and both were 100% professional about everything. Next question? Mar 05 06 01:04 pm Link Flip Ashley wrote: That depends on if you have agreed to be monogamous with each other. Mar 05 06 01:04 pm Link My only frustration is when a model contracts with another photographer same day. Star Mar 05 06 01:05 pm Link Honestly I'm not particularly sure of how taxing a shoot would be either, considering my first shoot is this Friday and the second is the next day. I think driving in Dallas is enough to almost ruin me but I'll get over it. Man I hate driving in Dallas though. : ) Mar 05 06 01:07 pm Link its not like you are dating exclusively and sleeping with one then the other. shoot with as many photographers as you want/can and as often. even if its 2 or 3 a day. AND you don't have to worry about catching a VD  you modeling slut/man whore Mar 05 06 01:07 pm Link Nope. Mar 05 06 01:08 pm Link FabioTovar wrote: Hah! I'm a pic whore. Okay here's another one. When you shoot with several at a close time I would imagine it is best to change out an avatar here back and forth every day to give each of them credit. Mar 05 06 01:26 pm Link There is only one photographer and Pentax is his camera. Should I draw a cartoon? Kidding. The only thing I see wrong with shooting back to back with different photographers is using the same clothes for both. That's just weird. Mar 05 06 01:33 pm Link Huh? I have shot with photographers back to back two in one day and then another the next day. why would that be an insult. Modeling is my work I'm not going to not let my self be booked and paid to only once a week. Last week was crazy I did three workshops and several shoots all in several days time. One photographer even was at both events with me it worked out great. I don't change my avatars to give photogs credit I change it to show my best images. You are shooting to improve your book yes? Then shoot as much as possable to learn as much as possable. and to network as much as possable. Then to be paid as often as possable. *this advice does not reflect the print world of modeling it only reflects my lowly internet experience* Mar 05 06 01:34 pm Link There's no reason for a photographer to be insulted if you work with other photographers. That said, I have known a few photographers who kept particular models to themselves in certain ways, like bad-mouthing other photographers in their area, or not passing along booking requests. And I've known photographers to have words with one another over specific models, especially after a model did nudes for one photographer after having turned down another. It's just a mantra that photographers and models have to keep repeating over and over: Photography isn't the same as dating. Photography isn't the same as dating. Photography isn't the same as dating. . . . Mar 05 06 03:02 pm Link It's work... nothing more. In point of fact, it's freelance work. So, you're free to do whatever works, as long as you give each shoot your best. My mechanic doesn't apologize for servicing another car right after mine, and my dentist often sees more than one patient in a day.... it's work.... not dating. Mar 05 06 03:06 pm Link The only way I imagine a photographer would be insulted would be if you blew one off to accommodate another or shoot his ideas with another instead of him. Mar 05 06 03:31 pm Link Flip Ashley wrote: No problem you need to do what you need to do just so you give the photographers Mar 05 06 03:35 pm Link Definately not insulting. Mar 05 06 03:39 pm Link Iona Lynn wrote: Actually, it does represent the print world. I had situations where two clients both wanted the same model to shoot on the same day. Different products, so there was no conflict there. Fortunately, I was (almost) always able to work out the scheduling where everybody got what they wanted. Mar 05 06 03:48 pm Link I can't see how this would be a problem... I'm shooting a model next week in the afternoon, and another photographer I know is shooting her that same evening. Only way I know is that the photographer is renting my studio for his shoot. I'm not insulted in the least, and can't see why any photographer should be... Gerald Moss Las Vegas Mar 05 06 03:53 pm Link Can you give 100% to both photographers? Can you absolutely, positively be there on time both days? Do you have an exclussive arangement with a photographer (not sure why you would)? If your answers are yes, yes, and no, then I don't see a problem at all. Mar 05 06 04:07 pm Link Iona Lynn wrote: I not a fan of a model doing two full shoots in one day. If you can do it and be 100% at both shoot more power to ya, but I have been on the second half of that and had a model that was tired, unmotivated, and dificult to work with and I know she was great for the first guys shoot. one a day for two days in a row no prob. Showing up worn out from an earlier shoot that paid the same as I did, mean you consider my work less important and that is insulting. Mar 05 06 06:23 pm Link Absolutely not a problem.... work is work..... why would any photographer have an issue with that??? Good luck.... Dave Mar 05 06 06:26 pm Link um..no. But what about shooting with 2 in one day? I've done that several times. Mar 05 06 06:29 pm Link I tried to shoot two models at once, but the bullet deflected off the fist models rib cage and disabled one of my strobe lights. The second model wasnt upset at all, so I think we can safely assume it's ok to shoot back to back. :-) Mar 05 06 06:29 pm Link No problem. I'd like to see a good model do well so that the model continues modeling. I'm assuming also that it's not insulting to the model if I'm shooting with a different model later that day or the next day. It's the same situation. I believe others mentioned this, but I'm chiming in. But I like the fact that the question was asked. Frankly, for all my "business is business" talk, I do wonder, in my art realm, if a model could take offense from my working with someone else soon after - if nothing else, from the standpoint of, "What's he shooting with her that he couldn't shoot with me (and pay me for)?" But I probably shouldn't worry that much about it. Mar 05 06 09:46 pm Link Yeah- Id feel insulted. Its like trying to cover the bases with insurance (like- well- if my images suck- maybe the other guys will be better). Better to communicate ahead of time. -Jose Mar 05 06 09:49 pm Link every photographer you work with will give you a different look as to there passion. good for you. as long as you show for your shoots. there time is money too. henry Mar 05 06 09:57 pm Link Well, the only thing I can think of is if you were dealing with too many photographers at once, so much that you got confused. The idea or outfit or hair for a shoot got mixed up with another shoot. Write things down, it helps!~ Mar 05 06 09:57 pm Link i did somethin like that last sunday wit a model she was from out of town i even dropped her to the next shoot .. its fine just as long as u are on time and u dont make comments about the other persons style or work to the other photographer Mar 05 06 10:05 pm Link |
