half element wrote:
yeah, having sex is also porn.

huh? yeah, no kidding!!!

half element wrote:
yeah, having sex is also porn.

Only if somebody films it.

Karma Oceanna wrote:
I'll leave my opinion out of this for now...

but there seem to be a lot of people saying that suicide girls or girls who pose nude do "porn" so I'm guessing dancing nude or topless would have to fall into the same (or worse!) category, right?

just curious...

As badly as *some* do it, it should be labled obscene

But, when done well, is an art form like any other.

Scott
aka Bodyartist

CristinaLex wrote:
it might as well be ..you pay for it ...they shake their asses in your face...you touch it (if the club allows ..lol).....and then your satisfyed and done looking for the next erotic dancer.....

Grenada girl, without strippers where would Veges be?  They are a national treasure!

Are belly dancers on that list, cheerleaders ?

men would pay to see jello shake if we are lonely.

William Coleman wrote:

Only if somebody films it.

Pornography has to be lascivious and without social, cultural, or artistic value.  In order to be considered art, it has to also have meaning, in addition to value.  That is, one might search for some kind of deeper meaning in a Martha Graham dance, but will certainly not find it in most exotic dance (if by that you mean club stripping).

Standards for pornography are not set by the federal or state government, unless they involve minors.  Otherwise the criteria is set by community standards (as well as other cultural, religious, and family values and traditions).

That said, any particular dancer can be expressive, and along the lines of Suicide Girls, for example, there is a neo retro burlesque revival that might be considered valuable and meaningful, albeit in low-culture sort of way.

Oh, and yeah, merely having sex is not porn.  Where the hell do you live?  Texas?

Ched wrote:
Pornographic

It must be a recorded image.

whew! thanks!

that means all the freaky deaky stuff I have done is OK!
no cameras please!

William Kious wrote:
One more time... for the record...

Nudity is not porn. 

Porn = sucking, screwing or otherwise "penetrative/invasive" activities.

I think some people fail to make the distinction between porn and things done in poor taste.

I think you have porn confused with prostitution. And for specifics sake lets say strippers photgraphed or video taped strip dances to complete the graphy part.

Yes it is porn. Soft core, low quality porn. SG is a whole another debate. I think SG is on the line, they could tilt over into nude art but there is more money in high quality soft porn.

sucking, screwing or otherwise "penetrative/invasive" activities= hard core porn.

porn= images, text, film, etc that is design exclusively to sexually arouse the veiwer/ reader.

art= images, etc that is design to convey the expressions of the artist.

nude != porn

porn != nude there is plenty porn out there without nudity.


"!=" = not equeal to

Steve  Cottrill wrote:
I think you all are confusing "exotic" with "erotic"............. look them up, eh?

exotic dancing usually is erotic, strippers just think exotic sounds better.