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Stamp me stupid . . . Ever do a particulary good TFCD shoot and, since you're digital and shooting everything in RAW, the pictures all have to be processed before they can be used for anything? A very long, time consuming, process as I'm sure most of you know. Especially when you're dealing with almost 300 pictures. You get so engrossed in the whole process you put the ugly little word "BACKUP" on the back burner? < < < DON'T > > > I have a big fairly new 300 gig drive that I use for my model shoots, plus all the composits, and parts I make for them. It was getting quite a bit of stuff on it, and I thought yesterday afternoon, I should go ahead and archive all this stuff, to clear this drive out. "SHOULD" is the key word here, "DIDN'T" is the operative one though. Last night the SOB crashed!!! Lost everything, including everything I did for Elizabeth last Monday night. Thank God I'd downsized a few of them, and sent them to her by email, so at least she has something from the shoot. All of the great hi rez pictures are gone though. Just a rant, to keep me fro crying this morning . . . Betcha archiving will be hitting the very top of my priority list from now on though. Go ye and do likewise . . . Andy Mar 02 06 06:37 am Link tiptoes... it wasn't a Hitachi drive was it? tiptoes back out xx shelly Mar 02 06 06:45 am Link OUCH! That hurts!!! I've lost a drive before so I know how it feels. I backup every shoot the minute the shoot is over. But based on what I have been reading, even backups on CDs and DVDs are not safe. So now I have several USB drives where I also backup the shots. I'm not sure what the long term answer to backups will be, but it's someting we probably should all be thinking about. Mark Mar 02 06 06:50 am Link Murphy's law: The probability of a hard drive crash is directly proportional to how important the files are, how big they are, how long it has been since the last backup, and whether the important items are retrievable elsewhere. Sounds like you maxxed out on the Murphy scale! Sorry to hear it. Mar 02 06 06:59 am Link dEFINITELY Words from the wise Especially for me b/c I'm working on a laptop that has previously contracted a serious infection of every type.... crashed, been cleaned out, and reformatted. Whew. And last week my sneaky teenage cousin snuck on my computer and installed some questionable softwares/programs and went to some questionable sites... UUUUUGHHGHGHG!! Teenagers. I'm off to buy a large storage medium right now. Maybe one of those new tiny little things you can put on your keychain and carry with you? Does anyboday know what those are called? Are there any online places where you can store stuff? Mar 02 06 07:03 am Link Well...As everyone else has siad in the number of threads like this...Backup, Backup and Backup some more. Because digital is so prevelent and drives are now a lot cheaper, it's common for most people to have several drives. If your data is to much to lose, send it in to Ontrack and they will get the data for you. But it will cost around 1250. Mar 02 06 07:06 am Link Yep. Had one of my 1 gig CF cards go to shit on me after 3+ hours and 200 images on a shoot. Gone, all gone. Mar 02 06 07:33 am Link Sorry to hear about the loss! Nothing is more frustrating. Not a coulda/shoulda response. Just advice for others reading the thread. I'm still using film and so the developer puts mine on CD. I also use an offsite file storage (www.godaddy.com) in case the house burns down! Good for storing insurance photos of my possessions there too! Mar 02 06 07:34 am Link The drive was a Maxtor, but it was my fault, mot the drives. OK, so continuing with my stupidity, I have no less that 12 of these drives. (Although not all of them are this big) All on external USB, or Firewire, so I can swap them around with different studio machines, and different jobs I'm working on. That's what happened last night. I'd hooked the drive up to my laptop, so I could sit in my comfiortable chair in the den and watch Amertican Idol with my wife. I shifted my leg, pulled the D*** cable out of the drive, and WHAM . . . no more drive. I hate loosing the money I paid for it, I hate loosing the drive, and I hate loosing all of my work, but the thing I hate the most, is loosing all of the really awesome pictures we took last Monday, and the model coming by this morning for her CD. I don't like to disapoint anybody, and ESPECIALLY her, cause she was so nice to work with. I really went all out to make these really special for her. I posted a couple of them after I downsized em. Go check them out and you'll see why I'm so upset. I mean a LOT of work went into these. She is MM #101219 I've been kicking myself all night, cause I do have all these other drives, plus a host of DVD duplicating machines. I buy the DVD blanks by the hundreds, and there is no excuse whatsoever for me being this stupid :-( Andy Mar 02 06 07:39 am Link Charisteen wrote: Ha Ha, I have 8 grandkids, wanna swap?? :-) Mar 02 06 07:42 am Link Oh no! I love kids.... and then they go home!! LOL Mar 02 06 07:48 am Link Charisteen wrote: they a commonly called JUMP DRIVES, and Lexar amke a line called sport, they are heavy duty and come with a poly/rubber cap..this really seals the connection up...the drive is a bit tougher than some of the cheep ones, and IMO worth the money...It has my data on it Mar 02 06 07:59 am Link forensic specialists can recover deleted or otherwise 'lost' data. there must be some service out there that offers recovery for consumers. Mar 02 06 08:04 am Link they a commonly called JUMP DRIVES, and Lexar amke a line called sport, they are heavy duty and come with a poly/rubber cap..this really seals the connection up...the drive is a bit tougher than some of the cheep ones, and IMO worth the money...It has my data on it Charlie THANX CHARLIE !! Mar 02 06 08:17 am Link If you haven't shot anymore, then the images may still be on the memory cards you used during the shoot (even if you have already "reformatted" them and used them again). And even if you HAVE shot using those cards...it may STILL be possible to pull images that have not yet been overwritten with new data. You won't get the stuff that's been overwritten, but at least you'll get whatever you can that hasn't yet been over written. Try a program like Photo Rescue. http://www.datarescue.com/photorescue/ Also, with regards to the "crashed" drive. It may be possible to get the drive working again and to run a scandisk on it to fix it and recover the data off there as well. Best of luck to you. - Denoy Mar 02 06 08:31 am Link Doug Harvey wrote: I think it's Ontrack that has a $500 program that will recover most data (unless you drive heads went or something like that). Also if their program doesnât do it for you then they knock $500 off of their drive recovery service. Mar 02 06 08:39 am Link Mark Anderson wrote: You know what would be REALLY COOL! something to store images in a physical format. Small...maybe something like a transparency so you could store a bunch in a relatively small area. Something so that no matter how computer technology changes, it would still be usable.....Hmmmm...I wonder what we could call such a thing.... Mar 02 06 08:43 am Link CDs and Video Unlimited wrote: ((stamp)) Mar 02 06 08:45 am Link I have lost more harddrives and data, than many of you have ever owned, from 10-meg drives, all the way up to 120gig drives. It always seems to happen right before you decide to do a backup. Unlike film, digitial imaging does not leave behind a negative. So it's up to you to protect that negative. 1) Don't use "microdrive" storage, which is mechanical disk storage. 2) Back up to TWO SEPARATE devices before erasing a memory card. Such as your portable computer and a backup-device. In a pinch, an EXTERNAL disk drive and your computer's internal one can suffice. This comes from old system management, that if the disk controller card is bad, anything attached is going to be bad. One controller can destroy all devices attached to it. One computer can too. 3) Back up to non-volitile, non-magnetic media ASAP. Once the copy is verified, make another. Put the two copies in different places _immediately_ such as a pocket in your camera bag, and a case in your light case. If you are at home, put one in your working box, and one elsewhere. DON'T BREAK YOUR ROUTINE. 4) If you use less than 512meg cards, burn each to a CD, then burn several CD's to a DVD if you've got it. 5) SLOWER burning, and older burners, give deeper pits. For whatever that's worth. Just look at the surface of "old" burned disks and the newer ones. Sometimes you can't even tell the new ones are actually used. That's *not* really great for data security. 6) Be *AFRAID* of magnetic media, and any sort of non-solid-state storage for non-recoverable stuff. Of any sort. A little paranoia goes a long way. You'll only be burned, when you suddenly feel "comfortable." 7) *NEVER* trust a new disk drive! Ever. 8) be wary of older disk drives that may fail. Just a few things from having been there, not done that, had to deal with it. Scott aka Bodyartist Mar 02 06 09:29 am Link DeBoer Photography wrote: God love you man, and the white horse you rode in on . . . as I write this my BRAND NEW photo rescue program is merrily getting my pictures back off of the, already erased and reformated, compact cards I took them on. My only focus had been how to ever get tham back from the hard drive. Never once gave a thought to the card itsself. Mar 02 06 10:52 am Link Here's what you do. Drop a dime on yourself. Call the FBI and tell them you have kiddie porn on your hard drive. They'll arrest you, seize your hard drive and have forensic specialists retrieve every image on the drive. Before your trial they'll have to turn over the hard drive data to your attorneys. They won't find any kiddie porn, you'll be acquitted, and you'll get the images back. Should cost you, maybe 20 or 30 thousand and a few days in jail. Hey, nobody said photography was gonna be easy! Mar 02 06 11:02 am Link William Coleman wrote: Ha Ha, it's just a sign of the times we're living in now . . . I'm a old geezer and can actually remember when it wasn't like this. Hmmmm not a bad idea though, now that you mention it :-) Mar 02 06 11:16 am Link Hi, One of the 1st things I learned when starting in digital was to burn your images to a CD, before even look at them on the computer Good rule to always follow. That FBI solution was really funny :-) Mar 02 06 12:34 pm Link A 160GB Maxtor crashed on me too. I didn't believe in backing up then  I pulled out half the hair on my head before I ran File Scavenger and got most of the files back. Now I feel invincible and am lazy about backing up again. What a thrill seeker I am. *runs to back everything up with fear I have jinxed myself* Mar 02 06 03:50 pm Link Universal Beauty wrote: You forgot about how close you are to a deadline Mar 02 06 03:59 pm Link Oh man that sucks I feel for you. I learned a long time ago to have my images on at least two different mediums at all times. When the shoot is over and i am rushed for time I put them on the computer and keep them on the memory card until I can get a CD made. Mar 02 06 04:02 pm Link WhiteBears Visions wrote: I had that very same thing happen ! Fortunately it was a test and not a paying client. Mar 02 06 04:03 pm Link shit happens back up I have two PCs I use one to back the other up and one external drive Disk crashes will make a grown man cry! *big hint* run you PC on clean power - it avoids the fluctuations that will kill a hard drive *** Mar 02 06 04:29 pm Link Talk about overkill. I upload onto a Raid 5 and if one of those drives go bad the others have already mirrored the bad drive. I then burn onto two cd's / dvd's, one for the office and one for home. When I send my work out ot have it photoshopped I have it returned to my AOL account where I can save it on their three seperate servers. Paranoid? Yea, a little. Mar 02 06 05:08 pm Link |
