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"I will only do Artistic Nudes, like PlayBoy..."
Portia VanPelt wrote: I agree with this. I'm thinking about submitting for Playboy Cyber... I like the classy nekkid look... Mar 10 06 03:59 pm Link Yes but it's high quality T&A (at least it was, I haven't seen an issue in a while). To reference another thread, THIS is exactly the sort of reason why I think a preshoot meeting is important. So many things are subjective, it's good to have real conversations about what it to be achieved from a shoot. Matt Mar 10 06 04:17 pm Link Apfel Photography wrote: Mar 10 06 06:29 pm Link How about we simplify things a bit. Playboy nudes= Im not spreading my vagina open for the world to see. Art nude/Glamour Nude Still nude isn't it? And in fact the most "vulgar" image can still be ART nude. As I said in a previous post a few months back. The only difference between ART nude and Porn is that one is in color... LOL Though I do agree with the Playboy is mostly glamour nude. But there are way too many names for the same things. Mar 10 06 06:54 pm Link William Coleman wrote: Is dinner included in this as well? Mar 11 06 11:40 am Link McKenzie wrote: I think you answered the porn/artistic question with this statement. Mar 11 06 11:51 am Link Wildcat Photography wrote: It depends on how naked the model gets. Mar 17 06 03:14 pm Link mumble mumble, on the contrary, if no one want to do porn style, where in the heck I should look for that kind of models? Playboy was fine when I was young, then it became boring. Always the same stuff, always those so gorgeous models, that in real life don't exist (damn photographer that shot them!), always FAKE ENOURMOUS breast... it will be fine again if I make it to old age, coz my head will be more stupid than ever (but far way less than now). Mar 17 06 03:32 pm Link RoninGarou wrote: I subscribed for years...then came the surgically/computer enhanced animation/cartoon characters that now pass for PB models...sooo boring...the stock tanked at 8 (from a high of 32) and is now vacillating around 14, even with PB online... Mar 17 06 04:56 pm Link The bottom line is image, A lot of ladies want to pretend they dont do nudes because they feel it will cheapen them..." Then they get a 5pm-5am in a strip club and act like they are pure.. Gimmie a break... There is nothing wrong with nude images I mean did you come out of your mother's womb in a nun's habit... If you can wear a bikini you can do a nude, if you love yourself and know your the shit, then you can do a nude.. The moral of the story is nude is nude is nude whether your in playboy hustler or your bedroom. So if you like the skin you live in than dont be ashamed of it.. Insecurity is the only thing that will cheapen a woman Alisun Mar 17 06 10:22 pm Link I don't think we can narrowly define what an artistic nude should or should not be. It certainly can cover a wide range, and even cross over into other genres. Think of Helmut Newton (whos work has appeared in playboy). I think many would agree that you can categorize his work as fine art, but also crosses into fashion and erotic as well. I'm not saying Playboy is a fine art nude publication (It's much closer to glamour in my book), but at times, I think we can agree, that perhaps the definition of fine art is evolving. Mar 18 06 07:25 am Link Isys Entertainment wrote: Great Attitude! I wish everyone could adopt it. It only comes down to a matter of privacy then. If you're not wanting anyone but a spouse to see you...then keep your clothes on...including the postage stamp sized bikinis. If you are ok with sharing your beauty with others...then do it...anyone that makes that a bad thing...it's in their minds. Now that doesn't apply to what activities you may doing WHILE nude....sex is sex. Porn has it's place but it not for public venues. What an adult chooses for themselves is between themselves...not to be inflicted upon others. Mar 18 06 08:44 am Link Yes Simple logic and if you use it ,then you can draw those lines because at the end of the day morals and business usually dont mix...Ask Trump he knows..lol Mar 18 06 12:48 pm Link Apfel Photography wrote: Funnily enough, these are often the same models who put in their profiles "Paid Assignments Only". A few friends and I have a running e-mail called I.O.T.D. (Idiot Of The Day), and these "models" are the frequent winners! Mar 18 06 05:18 pm Link From my talks with models I get the idea that in thier minds, PB style means she'll shoot nudes as long as her vulva isn't visible and she's not supposed to simulate a sex act. I don't think the term is especially accurate anymore, given the number of photos in PB that show vulvas clearly enough for us to see piercings and distinguish "innies" from "outies". Allusions to masturbation aren't rare. Maxim is kind of funny in that although less of the body is shown, the poses are often more provocative than PB. Mar 18 06 05:44 pm Link now thats just plain silly Mar 19 06 03:53 pm Link WhiteBears Visions wrote: i guess they mean NO LIPS Mar 19 06 03:56 pm Link Steven Eldridge wrote: Hmm.. Mar 20 06 10:55 am Link Alot of the models you're referencing don't realize that the models featured in Playboy, FHM, Maxim and the like are covered in body makeup, totally madeup in the face and hair, and then retouched in the editing department before the pics are ever seen by the public. That's a lot of pre and post production work that, I think, uninformed models are NOT aware of. That's only, however, my impression. Mar 20 06 11:08 am Link Playboy Magazine and Web has lost readership and profits for a one simple reason: full-on web/magazine raunch has trumped PB as a stroke-book. Period. The articles were terrific once guys got through workin' over babes images...now it's a cartoon book, and guys with money don't dig cartoons--but it's a wonderful magazine for the artistic nude/animation/surgical/computer enhancement crowd. Mar 20 06 11:12 am Link Oral sex is kissing(lol). Now back to the subject... Mar 20 06 11:15 am Link Apfel Photography wrote: Who cares if a model is delusional? Find someone else to shoot. Models are a dime a dozen! I find that most photogs/gwc's on MM are delusional!!! Mar 20 06 11:35 am Link i agree, the ones who 'only do playboy type nudes' are saying that they have *no* intention of posing for porn. at least that's my thought. oh well. *shrug* Mar 20 06 08:40 pm Link Most models don't know the difference between fine art, playboy style, etc. Some just want to be paid. Some can tell good photography from bad. Some will work with you because you shot their friend. What I've learned is that regardless of what the model knows if your photography resonates with her and she trusts you, she will shoot whatever you have mind. mike Mar 20 06 08:51 pm Link |