Forums > General Industry > South Jersey Scam? Help me please!

Model

crazy cat lady

Posts: 4

Toms River, New Jersey, US

I was walking in the shopping center were I work and this guy beeped at me from his car and called me over.  He thought I was some polish chick who works in some casino in Alantic City.  When he found out I was not he continued to tell me how he was a part of a thing called Free Lance Photo, and he is like a go-between for companies and models, but not an agent.  He said companies will go to him before an agent.  I talked to him on the phone and told him the kinda of stuff I want to do, but he didn't seem too happy with that.  He said he did more sports illustrated/ victoria's secret type stuff.  He gave me his email with is freelancephoto69, the 69 seemed to bother me.  I can't seem to find any info on him/the company he works with on the web.  But it still strikes me as odd because I work in a town that is mainly old people...

I am not sure what to do.  He wants to do lunch on friday and look at some of my pics (he wants some that are considered sexy).  I don't want to pass up an option to make a lot of money, but I don't want to get myself in trouble.

Feb 08 06 10:33 am Link

Photographer

EMG STUDIOS

Posts: 2033

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Is that how it really happens. A dude beeps his horn in a parking lot and girls go rushing to the car? You might be lucky you didn't get snatched in. If you feel in your belly that something is not right; maybe something is not right....

Feb 08 06 10:35 am Link

Photographer

Zion Imaging

Posts: 890

Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, US

Simple, ask for references and check them out first.

Feb 08 06 10:37 am Link

Model

crazy cat lady

Posts: 4

Toms River, New Jersey, US

EMG STUDIOS wrote:
Is that how it really happens. A dude beeps his horn in a parking lot and girls go rushing to the car? You might be lucky you didn't get snatched in. If you feel in your belly that something is not right; maybe something is not right....

I didn't go running over, he pulled his car right next to me so I could not even pretend he was just some old dude honking at a pretty girl on the sidewalk.

Feb 08 06 10:42 am Link

Photographer

nathan combs

Posts: 3687

Waynesboro, Virginia, US

i think it is a 50/50 thing how i get the people i photo i just walk up to them and tell them that i am a photographer and ask if i could photo them am i a perv no dues it make some people fell weird yes and all i wont to do is photo them

Feb 08 06 10:44 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Bennett

Posts: 2223

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Bring a friend!

Feb 08 06 10:47 am Link

Photographer

Mark Anderson

Posts: 2472

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Zion Imaging wrote:
Simple, ask for references and check them out first.

And when all the references are email addresses at free accounts and no phone numbers I'm sure they will all tell you how great he is... 

Caution Caution Will Robinson...

Feb 08 06 10:48 am Link

Photographer

C R Photography

Posts: 3594

Pleasanton, California, US

Ana Kathleen wrote:
I didn't go running over, he pulled his car right next to me so I could not even pretend he was just some old dude honking at a pretty girl on the sidewalk.

Even better.

Isn’t that how guys pick up hookers?.. wink

No offence, but no talent scout in the world would ever "honk" his horn to test a model.

Forget about this guy.

At the very least he's a loser with too much time on his hands.

The worst is your next picture will be on the side of a milk carton.

Go wit your gut, toss his info and find a legit agency smile

Feb 08 06 10:57 am Link

Photographer

EMG STUDIOS

Posts: 2033

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Ana Kathleen wrote:
I didn't go running over, he pulled his car right next to me so I could not even pretend he was just some old dude honking at a pretty girl on the sidewalk.

I'm not being a hardass here but I see girls do it all the time. They will react to the beep and if they don't see anyone they recognize, they keep it moving. I'm not afraid to admit that I like to "people watch" because people doing just candid everyday things is some of the best entertainment on earth.

Let me preface my next statement by saying; I don't think I've had anyone that had an all out bad experience with shooting, but if I did, I sure wouldn't be providing her info to anyone as a reference. Be careful when you're checking references, because who would give you information to contact someone about them if they knew that person would say something bad about them.

Feb 08 06 10:57 am Link

Model

Rachel Dashae

Posts: 1239

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

If you're really worried about the money,and seeing if he's for real. Go meet with him,and bring a friend of some sort. Mainly a male,because it seems to be a bit more intimidating. And then if the guy seems to become even more sketchy than drop him. Also,ask him for references very casually. If he has none he wants to give you,then tell him "No thanks."

Feb 08 06 11:02 am Link

Photographer

i c e c o l d

Posts: 8610

Fort Myers, Florida, US

Ana Kathleen wrote:
I am not sure what to do.  He wants to do lunch on friday and look at some of my pics (he wants some that are considered sexy).

Well, before you even agree to meet for lunch, call him back or e-mail him and ask for references (atleast 5), list of clients, business license, etc....

If he is legit, he will have no problem providing any of this information. If not stay away. Even if he says "well I'll bring the information with me, just meet me for lunch" Still I wouldn't go until you checked him out first.

Ana Kathleen wrote:
I don't want to pass up an option to make a lot of money, but I don't want to get myself in trouble.

What kind of money did he promise you? If any? You state that you don't want to pass on a chance to make alot of money. If this guy is saying you will makes lots of money its a scam.

If he is just a go between (wanna be agent, just to look at girls and get them naked) what is his cut? Who is paying him? Does he have legit clients? (Again, see list of clients before you meet)


Ana Kathleen wrote:
I am not sure what to do.

I still have to shake my head in disbelief everytime I see a model write this. Why are you unsure? Use some common frickin' sense here people....there is nothing to be unsure about!!!!

You should always check out anyone you have never worked with before!! Bottom Line. If they are legit the will provide this information.

I'm so sick of hearing all of this crap from models about what this jerk did to me...he promised me money....he said I wouldn't have to take my clothes off....I didn't want to lose out on a chance to make alot of money so I did it anyway.....yadda yadda yadda.

Its very sad, cause I never want to see a model get hurt....but come on, use a little common sense.

Feb 08 06 11:07 am Link

Photographer

ereidvetophoto

Posts: 52

New York, New York, US

Absolutely no reason to contact this guy.  He's shady at best.

No respectable agent would scout for talent this way.

Feb 08 06 11:09 am Link

Photographer

SC_Michael

Posts: 601

Columbia, Alabama, US

Never believe anyone who calls you over with the beep of a horn. If hes legit, he'll approach you in a professional manner, not from behind a wheel. Dont do it. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Feb 08 06 11:11 am Link

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Tito Trelles-MADE IN NY

Posts: 960

Miami, Florida, US

Don't go. T

Feb 08 06 11:13 am Link

Photographer

RED Photographic

Posts: 1458

ereidvetophoto wrote:
Absolutely no reason to contact this guy.  He's shady at best.

No respectable agent would scout for talent this way.

100% right.

Feb 08 06 11:14 am Link

Model

ShainaRene

Posts: 1

Albany, New York, US

Girl take it from a real nigga go for it if u see wear he is A wace of your time dont fuck with him.1love

Feb 08 06 11:20 am Link

Photographer

James Jackson Fashion

Posts: 11132

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Very odd situation...my scam/weirdo alarms are going off...  I also have never heard of anything like the situation this guy is describing.

Feb 08 06 11:21 am Link

Photographer

GOTHIC HANGMAN STUDIOS

Posts: 208

New York, New York, US

TRUST YOUR GUT INSTINCT!

Feb 08 06 11:22 am Link

Photographer

EMG STUDIOS

Posts: 2033

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Pure G0DDess wrote:
Girl take it from a real nigga go for it if u see wear he is A wace of your time dont fuck with him.1love

WOW!

Feb 08 06 11:24 am Link

Photographer

i c e c o l d

Posts: 8610

Fort Myers, Florida, US

Pure G0DDess wrote:
Girl take it from a real nigga go for it if u see wear he is A wace of your time dont fuck with him.1love

Its attitudes and answers like this that gets girls raped and killed.

Feb 08 06 11:26 am Link

Photographer

EMG STUDIOS

Posts: 2033

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Icecold Images wrote:

Its attitudes and answers like this that gets girls raped and killed.

I'm black and I don't even understand that response..

Feb 08 06 11:36 am Link

Photographer

ereidvetophoto

Posts: 52

New York, New York, US

Is she saying to go or not to go?

Feb 08 06 11:47 am Link

Photographer

Monsante Bey

Posts: 2111

Columbus, Georgia, US

Yumemiru wrote:
If you're really worried about the money,and seeing if he's for real. Go meet with him,and bring a friend of some sort. Mainly a male,because it seems to be a bit more intimidating. And then if the guy seems to become even more sketchy than drop him. Also,ask him for references very casually. If he has none he wants to give you,then tell him "No thanks."

I like this reply better, because a lot of businesses aren't online. It's foolish to be totally reliant on the web for information on a company.

Feb 08 06 12:06 pm Link

Photographer

Monsante Bey

Posts: 2111

Columbus, Georgia, US

Pure G0DDess wrote:
Girl take it from a real nigga go for it if u see wear he is A wace of your time dont fuck with him.1love

A real wha???

Feb 08 06 12:08 pm Link

Model

Inferi

Posts: 12930

Eagan, Minnesota, US

Get references BEFORE you meet with this guy and check them all BEFORE you meet with him!  ALso, if you are insistent on going, take someone with you to the lunch.  If he freaks out then he is not someone you want to work with.  Your safety comes first, just remember that.

Inferi

Feb 08 06 12:41 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Camera Ready Studios

Posts: 7191

Dallas, Texas, US

stay away from this one.   It's either someone after your money or looking to get laid.

Feb 08 06 03:00 pm Link

Photographer

DANACOLE

Posts: 10183

Oslo, Oslo, Norway

Pure G0DDess wrote:
Girl take it from a real nigga go for it if u see wear he is A wace of your time dont fuck with him.1love

What in the hell??? lol
Now thats part of the reason black people like me and rest of us look uneducated to other races.

::Holding my head in shame::

Feb 08 06 03:11 pm Link

Photographer

Mike Mancuso

Posts: 94

Harleysville, Pennsylvania, US

Pure G0DDess wrote:
Girl take it from a real nigga go for it if u see wear he is A wace of your time dont fuck with him.1love

In my best Ralphy Wiggam Voice

" I have a bellybutton "

Sounds Shady, you sound naive, I can't believe you're even questioning this.

Feb 08 06 03:24 pm Link

Model

Diane ly

Posts: 1068

Manhattan, Illinois, US

The agent is typically the go btwn from a client to a model.  That's why models want agents!  big_smile

Feb 08 06 03:30 pm Link

Photographer

Vito

Posts: 4582

Brooklyn, New York, US

Hold up a sec. I don't know if this guy is shady or not, but... aren't many models "discovered" this way, a chance meeting or getting a card from someone in a store, on the street, etc...?

Check for references, past work and see if it's worthwhile (and safe).

Feb 08 06 03:33 pm Link

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Mike Mancuso

Posts: 94

Harleysville, Pennsylvania, US

I dont mean to be coming off harsh here, but c'mon, if you were my little sister no way in hell. I am gonna play big brother here, no way.

Some random guy honks his horn at you, pulls up in his car and says he wants to photgraph you in a provocative half naked manner, has given no references to you at this point and given you same email that ends in 69, which already is making you a bit leary?????? He shoots down your idea's about what you want!!

Money will come and go, its not the most important thing in this world, don't get caught up in your missing out on a big shot or chance to make some money over your safety.

Think smart about this...

Feb 08 06 04:23 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Camera Ready Studios

Posts: 7191

Dallas, Texas, US

Vito wrote:
Hold up a sec. I don't know if this guy is shady or not, but... aren't many models "discovered" this way, a chance meeting or getting a card from someone in a store, on the street, etc...?

Check for references, past work and see if it's worthwhile (and safe).

I would say no.  A real agent might discover someone this way but a GWC wanting to shoot provative photos is another story and clearly thats what he was....and the ivitation to dinner is another give away that this is more then just a professional interest....how about the email address?  isnt that a red flag as well?  if it waddles  like a duck and quacks like a duck.....its probably a duck.

Feb 08 06 05:08 pm Link

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FemmeArt

Posts: 880

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

I would say go, but be sure to wear full body armor and carry a very large gun in each hand.

Feb 08 06 05:15 pm Link