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i have a curious curious mind and would like to know what's with the 'I only do nudes for one particular photographer'- I often hear this from models also professing they don't do nudes . And why is it always a female model saying it about a male photographer. When do you every hear a photographer saying 'I don't do nudes except for with one particular model' !!! Isn't art about being free, equal, expressing and resisting everyday hegemony and power structures instead of perpectuating them. Yes I think it is important, sensible and its great to be particular with who you shoot nude with - infact in my opinion only there are probably only 5% of photographers who can do decent nudes on MM - and 2.8% do happen to be female photgraphers. What do you think?? I want to understand ... Feb 07 06 06:30 am Link *singing* I'm just mad about saffron Saffron's mad about me I'm just a mad about saffron She's just mad about me They call me Mellow Yellow Feb 07 06 06:33 am Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: now your getting real CRAZY Feb 07 06 06:35 am Link Benny wrote: **chuckle Feb 07 06 06:36 am Link i hear you benny -- my thoughts exactly -- E lec tric al banana Feb 07 06 06:38 am Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: hehehe Feb 07 06 06:39 am Link on the surface, i would simply say these few things, even though im quite certain that ther's a lot more to it than just this: 1 there are a lot of amateurs on this site, it's not all professional level. 2 not all models see their work as art per say 3 not all models (nor all photographers) find nudes attractive and/or nudes aren't in their interest in doing, reguardless of what they may or may not find artisticly appealing. 4 some people are wierd!!  also, as a model, who does a lot of nude work... the first time shooting with a new photographer, can sometimes be akward (usually only for the first few minutes or so until the camera and me just seem to click... no pun intended), and a lot of models might not like invading that comfort level, so reserve it only to one, or only a few photographers that they know they are comfortable with. also, a lot of photographers even get a little akward with nudity. in all, we are all adults, but we don't always act like it. Feb 07 06 06:40 am Link saffron wrote: how about electric fence? Feb 07 06 06:40 am Link Benny wrote: :eyes wide with amazement: Feb 07 06 06:45 am Link Benny wrote: i feel bad for that kid and his family. deeply. Feb 07 06 06:48 am Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: there is a reason why I am going F-ing Nuts Feb 07 06 06:50 am Link deadlypoetry wrote: Oh I dunno...I think he kind of likes it Feb 07 06 06:50 am Link I don't know why but i feel at home and comfortable around this discussion group ..they call me mellow yellow ...thats right!! Feb 07 06 06:51 am Link saffron wrote: that's just because we are cool like that Feb 07 06 06:52 am Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: and Crazy Feb 07 06 06:53 am Link Crazier Benny wrote: Hey how did you get out of my purse?! Feb 07 06 06:55 am Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: like this Feb 07 06 06:56 am Link haha it's becoming picture association. i love it! we tend to play that on the forums of fatalbeauty.com very nice.Feb 07 06 07:01 am Link Benny, You're killing me. Feb 07 06 07:33 am Link saffron wrote: Enough, children. Feb 07 06 08:11 am Link What Don said, as usual. From what I've seen, the majority of this kind of arrangement happens between inexperienced models and insecure photographers. Any time I see it mentioned in a portfolio, for some reason the phrase "who's your daddy?" pops into my head... Feb 07 06 09:53 am Link Vita Brevis wrote: very much agreed. Feb 07 06 09:57 am Link I think it is a pretty arrogant statement to make, personally. There are much better ways to word the point these people are trying to convey. Obviously many women are not confortable with nudity but still want to explore nude photography, in a venue they are comfortable with. I think a female photographer would be great to work with for nudes! I don't know why women would be adverse to the idea, unless they just don't know a good female photographer. Feb 07 06 10:01 am Link Y'all wanna go grab a cup of coffee with me? I know a GREAT cafe just down the road, and a friend of mine is spinning tonight. *wink* Feb 07 06 10:10 am Link deadlypoetry wrote: I wouldn't run Saff, I think she's got that one sussed out just right Feb 07 06 10:17 am Link I say the models who only model nude for one photog probably have the hots for him. ;-) FLAME ME, BABIES!!!!!!!!!!! Feb 07 06 10:30 am Link saffron wrote: I was fortunate enough to do topless and implied shoots with a model who'd never done them before. She decided to do this work with me after shooting with me several times and assuring herself that my skills were adequate and, more importantly, that she was comfortable being nude around me. Feb 07 06 10:47 am Link What I think is that any models who are only willing to model nude only for other photographers are grievously misguided. If models feel a need to limit their nude modeling, they should of course limit that to me. And a few of my dues-paying associates. Seriously yes, there is some kind of voluntary ownership thing going on, whether the exclusive picture-taker (usually pretty incompetent) is a B/F, "manager" or whatever. Women, not just models, need to have ownership of their bodies, and I guess that ownership does extend to making choices about who they will do what with. I can't help but suspect such choices are evidence of the opposite, however. -Don This is exactly as i suspected regarding ownership of the body and power relations -- well said Feb 07 06 02:01 pm Link MadamePsychosis wrote: Mme P let us model nude with praxis and Irainian love godess - Feb 07 06 02:09 pm Link I think folks just like tooting their own horn. So often people shoot nudes and they flat out have nothing going on but a really attractive person, no other positives, and then there are those that go out and proclaim I will not show my body but for this one person, so hear me roar(and the pictures suck). Give me a break, don't be satisfied with the obvious and go beyond. I appreciate the genuine idea about being comfortable and shooting with only certain folks, but people need not rant and rave. Feb 07 06 02:13 pm Link saffron wrote: Me! Me! Me! Feb 07 06 02:13 pm Link I personally dont understand why models limit themselves to one photographer for nudes because alot of the time the person that you work with on the regular is not the best person for the job! When I did do nudes I noticed that not everyone can do them and they look tasteful, worthy of magazine coverage so I had to move on the the next and as I moved on I found they got better and better..... wait this is turning dirty isnt it...get your mind out of the gutter Im talking professionally here! LOL!  Feb 07 06 02:26 pm Link StMarc wrote: I agree with that Feb 07 06 02:57 pm Link On a site like MM, there are artists, there are GWCs, there are pros, there are flakes, there are decent respectful people, and there are pervs. And if a model posts nude (or even semi-nude) photos in their portfolio, they will get inquiries from every perv within 500 miles, and some of them feel that if a model posed nude once, they are somehow obligated to pose nude for every GWC in the state. TFP of course. It only makes sense to me that a model would want to be very selective of who they are willing to pose nude for. I work with nudes in much of my art photography. Some models give me an enthusiastic yes. Some models say "not in this lifetime". Sometimes a model is hesitant until they can feel assured that I'm not a perv. Whatever. It is a free country, and they are free to make whatever choices they want. If one says no, I just move on till I find another one that says yes. Feb 07 06 07:45 pm Link Saffy heres one vote for JMG! ;-) Feb 07 06 10:07 pm Link saffron wrote: Get a grip. That's sooo obvious. Feb 07 06 10:14 pm Link MadamePsychosis wrote: I agree with Madame Psychosis! JMG is the way 2 go! Feb 09 06 10:55 am Link |
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