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Photographer

D. Brian Nelson

Posts: 5477

Rapid City, South Dakota, US

I find myself using "fearless" when describing or soliciting models.  Some have called me "fearless," which is far from true, but I like the feeling of the descriptor. 

What does "fearlessness" mean?  Is "fearlessness" a good quality in a model?  Why or why not?

-D

Feb 06 06 10:24 pm Link

Photographer

J Haig

Posts: 359

Gananoque, Ontario, Canada

It's a wonderful quality in a model, or in a person in general.  Unfortunately, some well meaning but misguided individuals often confuse it with "stupidity" or "recklessness", thus neccesitating long threads on inane topics such as escorts, perverts, etc. et al.

Feb 06 06 10:41 pm Link

Photographer

500 Gigs of Desire

Posts: 3833

New York, New York, US

Fearlessness comes in handy when the photographer makes the model lick sharp objects.

https://www.striffler.com/images/saw9927-web.jpg

Feb 06 06 11:06 pm Link

Photographer

megafunk

Posts: 2594

Los Angeles, California, US

I use the term frequently. My desire for it is returned infrequently. What I want, in such relation, is someone who trusts me to get the damn shot and isn't worried about her/his own lack of understanding of what the shot is. A fearless person will let things flow with the simple knowledge that holding back is death to the moment.

Feb 06 06 11:38 pm Link

Model

PlusModelNikki

Posts: 1196

Pontiac, Michigan, US

Eric S. wrote:
Fearlessness comes in handy when the photographer makes the model lick sharp objects.

https://www.striffler.com/images/saw9927-web.jpg

yesssssss that is "fearlessness"  wink atleast i think so

Feb 06 06 11:44 pm Link

Photographer

Kentsoul

Posts: 9739

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

In my work, fearlessness is the only thing that really matters...everything else is negotiable.

Feb 07 06 12:30 am Link

Model

Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Fearless.
Eat it bitches.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/nakedkatie2000/katie2683.jpg

Feb 07 06 12:37 am Link

Photographer

Sanders McNew

Posts: 1284

New York, New York, US

I find a healthy dose of trepidation goes a long way. Sanders.

Feb 07 06 12:42 am Link

Photographer

500 Gigs of Desire

Posts: 3833

New York, New York, US

https://www.striffler.com/images/holly-spider880-web-big.jpg

Feb 07 06 12:47 am Link

Photographer

kickfight

Posts: 35054

Portland, Oregon, US

Nemi wrote:
Fearless.
Eat it bitches.

HOLY CRAP!!!
JESUS FRICKIN' CHRIST!!!
You've got a GORGEOUS pair of feet, Katie! smile

Feb 07 06 02:00 am Link

Photographer

Moraxian

Posts: 2607

Germantown, Maryland, US

Nemi wrote:
Fearless.
Eat it bitches.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/nakedkatie2000/katie2683.jpg

Awesome shot Katie...

I know the reply isn't on topic, but I this is a fantastic photo.  smile

Feb 07 06 07:21 am Link

Model

Mockingbird Girl

Posts: 193

New York, New York, US

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
I find myself using "fearless" when describing or soliciting models.  Some have called me "fearless," which is far from true, but I like the feeling of the descriptor. 

What does "fearlessness" mean?  Is "fearlessness" a good quality in a model?  Why or why not?

-D

"Fearlessness is the fruit of perfect Self Realization - that is, the recovery of nonduality" (Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 1.4.2).

Fearlessness is a wonderful quality in anybody provided that one understands the difference between fearlessness and being careless with yourself and with others.

In August I had the Sanskrit term for Fearlessness (Abhaya) tattooed on the back of my neck.

Abhaya: Fearlessness, one of the cardinal virtues*. It also means freedom from fear, peace, mental serenity.

I have placed it on what would be my fifth chakra (if it were in front). The fifth chakra is referred to as the Throat. It is located in the V of the collarbone at the lower neck and is the center of communication, sound, and expression of creativity via thought , speech, and writing.

The possibility for change, transformation and healing are located here. The throat is where anger is stored and finally let go of.

When this chakra is out of balance one may want to hold back, feel timid, be quiet, feel weak, or can't express their thoughts. When this chakra is balanced you may feel balanced, centered, musically or artistically inspired, and may be a good speaker.

For me Fearlessness means pushing boundaries - my own and others, it means taking risks - emotional ones, physical ones to evolve as a person, to make a difference in life (my own and others).  It means living within my own integrity and challenging the  status quo in which ever way I can even if it may "feel" uncomfortable, so that I can grow and continue to contribute to the lives of those around me. 

(Note - by pushing boundaries, I *do not* mean being disrespectful or acting in a way that is forceful or bullying)

For still the fearful sex can fearless prove;
Boldly they act, if spirited by love.
                                                - Ovid, Metamorphoses

Feb 07 06 08:23 am Link

Photographer

studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Nemi wrote:
Fearless.
Eat it bitches.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/nakedkatie2000/katie2683.jpg

Katie, fearless depends on if that's a 4' drop or a 40 story drop on the other side of that railing.

40 story drop = fearless... definitely fearless
4' drop = not quite so fearless

LOL

Studio36.

Feb 07 06 08:40 am Link

Model

Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

studio36uk wrote:
Katie, fearless depends on if that's a 4' drop or a 40 story drop on the other side of that railing.

40 story drop = fearless... definitely fearless
4' drop = not quite so fearless

LOL

Studio36.

Thats the east river...it's a lovely drop onto rocks and nastyness.
Falling would result in mucho brokenness....and perhaps superpowers from falling into the east river's mutated waters.

Moraxian wrote:
Awesome shot Katie...

I know the reply isn't on topic, but I this is a fantastic photo.  smile

Thank you smile

kickfight wrote:
HOLY CRAP!!!
JESUS FRICKIN' CHRIST!!!
You've got a GORGEOUS pair of feet, Katie! smile

I think I have scary big feet...but hey lol, to each their own.

Feb 08 06 05:14 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Tracey Masterson

Posts: 553

Shelton, Connecticut, US

I think fearlessness in any person, regardless of what end of the business you are, is a plus.
To a certain extent.  This question finds me remembering a scene from one of the Next Top Model show.  There was that crazy girl with the short hair.  A shoot with the guys from Jackass.  And at the end of the shoot she was running around wearing a diaper and actually peed into it.  She looked ridiculous.  And not well received.
Anyway, I enjoy a fearless model, photographer, hair person, wardrobe, lighting, etc.
I love when someone puts something where it was not intended to go.  Or does something that was already done, but pushes it a bit more.  Not caring if it sucks.  But doing because they can.
There is so much boring work out there.  And it keeps getting re-done. 
And the fearless bird gets the worm.
Because if it didn't, a bird that WAS fearless would.
I hope you are reading this Brian.

Shoot, I will edit to actually answer the original question.
Yes, it is good for a model to be fearless.  Be a fearless actress.  Play the part you are given.  Push your limits and test your boundries.  It is easy to reel it back in, but hard to cast it out.

Feb 08 06 07:53 pm Link

Model

StacyJack

Posts: 2297

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

Feb 08 06 08:20 pm Link

Photographer

studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Nemi wrote:
Thats the east river...it's a lovely drop onto rocks and nastyness.
Falling would result in mucho brokenness....and perhaps superpowers from falling into the east river's mutated waters.

OK I'll give you fearless just for taking off your chemical protection suit that close the the east river. LOL

Studio36

Feb 09 06 12:08 am Link

Photographer

Infinite Eye

Posts: 300

New York, New York, US

You have to have it in huge quantity if you're going to be any kind of artist.  There's nothing more frightening than a direction without a path, to get metaphorical for a second.

Otherwise, just be an accountant, and have a nice safe trip.

Feb 09 06 12:15 am Link

Model

Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

Fearlessness is synonymous with confidence (but can be equated to stupidity depending on the nature of the situation).

Feb 09 06 12:16 am Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

studio36uk wrote:

Katie, fearless depends on if that's a 4' drop or a 40 story drop on the other side of that railing.

40 story drop = fearless... definitely fearless
4' drop = not quite so fearless

LOL

Studio36.

Thank you...

(Now who was the foot freak that posted?)

Feb 09 06 12:18 am Link

Model

Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

Who is the fearless one anyway? The model or the photog that risks the major lawsuit?  It's much better to create the illusion of risk in camera than to do it for real.

Feb 09 06 12:36 am Link

Model

Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Craig Thomson wrote:

Thank you...

(Now who was the foot freak that posted?)

Didja not see my reply?

Feb 09 06 12:40 am Link

Model

Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

studio36uk wrote:
OK I'll give you fearless just for taking off your chemical protection suit that close the the east river. LOL

Studio36

I actually went in....

Feb 09 06 12:42 am Link

Model

theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

Jay Dezelic wrote:
Fearlessness is synonymous with confidence (but can be equated to stupidity depending on the nature of the situation).

I was just going to say fearlessness was synoymous with stupidity.

Feb 09 06 01:28 am Link

Model

Just AJ

Posts: 3478

Round Rock, Texas, US

Wow!  Dadamn!!  One must do what one must evidently.  However. . .I do wonder. . .does fearless = soulless.  In other words, does fearlessness equate to compromising oneself and one's sense of self?

Feb 09 06 03:27 pm Link

Photographer

artist

Posts: 294

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

theda wrote:

I was just going to say fearlessness was synoymous with stupidity.

Not always, but if you trust the people you are working with, part of BDSM and even fetish photography, is facing and overcoming fears, or personal inhibitions.

It's a good quality in a model; but it's *NOT* synonymos with stupidity.  I don't like stupid people.  Not at all.  (FWIW: stupid is not a function of education, a lot of well educated people are extremely stupid, and some high school drop outs are very wise.)

Scott
aka Bodyartist

Feb 09 06 03:34 pm Link

Model

Just AJ

Posts: 3478

Round Rock, Texas, US

Bodyartist wrote:
(FWIW: stupid is not a function of education, a lot of well educated people are extremely stupid, and some high school drop outs are very wise.)

Scott
aka Bodyartist

Damn right!

Feb 09 06 03:36 pm Link

Photographer

MarkMarek

Posts: 2211

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Eric S. wrote:
https://www.striffler.com/images/holly-spider880-web-big.jpg

Beauty - must be flatrock... not very old - pure beauty

Too bad that make up riuns the picture, but the scorpion is pure beauty

Feb 09 06 03:37 pm Link

Photographer

kickfight

Posts: 35054

Portland, Oregon, US

Nemi wrote:
Didja not see my reply?

It's OK, Katie... them Tacoma folks need a little extra guidance! smile

Feb 09 06 03:43 pm Link

Model

Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

kickfight wrote:

It's OK, Katie... them Tacoma folks need a little extra guidance! smile

lol

Feb 09 06 04:17 pm Link

Model

KatieK

Posts: 619

Lawrence, Kansas, US

"A fearless person will let things flow with the simple knowledge that holding back is death to the moment." !!!!!!!!!!! smile !!!!!!!!!!

I'm keeping that forever.  It's got to be one of the best quotes I've ever read.  I'm all about fearlessness and letting it all go.  You can't take anything with you, may as well leave it all here.

Feb 09 06 04:50 pm Link