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A model and I are thinking about working at car shows and race tracks. Taking pics with a model and then selling the pics to the owners. Im looking for ideas on Price and amount of prints. They will be on a cd for them to do with what they want after they pay for the cd. We were thinkng $100 for 5 pics and $15 each for any extras. What do you think. thanks a lot for the help. Matt. Jan 14 06 09:16 am Link Matthew Myers wrote: Matt, let me know how that goes.........alot of times people WILL NOT allow you to shoot models with thier cars or pay for any photos Jan 14 06 09:30 am Link I am both a car guy and a photog so let me put my in put here. First of all, most of us are very protective of our cars. Make sure the model knows how to lay on the car and what not to not screw up the paint. I think it also might help if you had a tuned car of some sort. Second, I doubt you are ganna see a lot of people willing to buy the picture to be honest. You may be luckier if you do them tfp and submit them to mags like d sport and import tuner. Jan 15 06 04:15 pm Link You have to remember that people don't want to pay money for something they can do themselves. It's not a strech for them to find a good looking girl to lean against their car while they snap away with their digital point and shoot. Your skill level as a photographer is neglectible if these people have no reason to buy 5 shots for $100 (thats $20 a shot). If I had these pictures as a car owner what use would I have for them? I'm not marketing anything so I'm not making money, I just have a cool car. That doesn't justify someone paying you $100 You're far better off going to a classic car repair or build shop and offering to produce a calendar or postcards for them. You get to do something in the same vein and you'll have more willing customers because they'll see your product as a way to market themselves as well. Jan 15 06 08:53 pm Link Matthew Myers wrote: Matt....take it from a hotrod owner and a motorsports photographer....it ain't gonna work. Jan 15 06 09:11 pm Link I make $150 per shoot for clients/owners and that`s with or without a model (25 PHOTOS) I make more $$$$ shooting privately with a $100,000 Porsche or a $80,000 vintage Corvette for their owners while they are IMPRESSED with my work and find it unique Magazine`s don`t pay scratch for special or rare cars, most of them want it all for free, if anyone knows of a magazine that pays let me know I have about 25,000 images to sell them......(MESSAGE ME OFF THE BOARD) Models laying on a car is a no no.........but driving or laying in them with vintage lingerie works everytime, I do have some owners who are "anal" about shooting Retro nudes with their car, so I have to interview them before I bring a nude model I get a kick out of all of this while I get to sit in (and sometimes drive) ultra rare vintage cars that some people NEVER even see in their lives, that`s the fun of it all  Jan 15 06 09:27 pm Link I really don't think it will work either. Submitting the work to magazines for publication would probably be more realistic and it will also force you to produce top notch pictures with a top notch model because competiton is keen when your working on getting your stuff published. Jan 15 06 09:29 pm Link Apopular sign at many car show is "Unless your Nude, don't touch my car! Most car gusy have lot of time, money and emotion tied up in their cars. they will spend tons for original parts etc but they only need one set of good photos of their baby. A P&S didital is good enough for them most of the time. I think you have a lot of hard work to get this to be a money maker Jan 15 06 11:23 pm Link Matthew Myers wrote: Now...... Jan 16 06 02:31 am Link Um..... Let me get this straight..... You want to go up to people at carshows, with a model, have the model pose with the car, then charge the car owner $100 for the photo? Let me guess ... Right before you got that brilliant idea, you looked like this:  Well.... funny comment.. but true! Jan 16 06 02:36 am Link Eric Muss-Barnes wrote: Eric, you never fail to entertain me. L-O-fucking-L Jan 16 06 02:38 am Link I was shooting cars long before I started shooting models. I see 2 problems with your plan. 1) A car show is not a very photogenic location. Too many distractions around to get a quality full-car shot. 2)See that middle-aged or older gent in the lawn chair? He is most likely the owner of the car. See the middle-aged or older woman in the lawn chair next to him? She is the woman who put up with his long hours in the garage while he built that dream car. She's stuck that weekend in a lawnchair hearing the Beach Boys over and over and over....She is supposed to be the dream girl cruising with him in the poodle skirt. She is normally NOT going to be very pleased if he buys a photo of a pretty young thing crawling or lying around THEIR car. Now an approach that MIGHT work.....approach the owner and tell him you are a photographer of automotive art and you would be interested in doing a shoot with his car. Have a book of your work along the lines of the quality photos you see in coffee table books of cars. Have some with and without models. Then offer to shoot with or without the model. Of course the model with car will cost more.... I can see this working better albeit limited success at a car show. Now a bike show may be a totally different matter... Jan 16 06 09:52 am Link Matthew Myers wrote: it will not happen. especially at race tracks. I sometimes shoot motorsports, soi know what i'm talking about. Jan 16 06 09:55 am Link Matt... Please be aware that if you are shooting at a race track for commercial purposes, you will be required to pay a percentage to the track. The common number is 30-percent. Most also require special liability releases... If caught selling without the proper paperwork, in most states you may be charged with criminal trespass... Some tracks and car shows don't care. But, most professional tracks and promoters have specific policies in place. It is always better to check first... Jan 16 06 10:04 am Link |
