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oh Dear, inflated egos.
Okay, as some of you are aware in currently living in Sydney, so the background for tihs story is that i worked with this model last year in Melbourne and we kept in touch (well she wanted to) anyway. We caught up yesterday, so naturally she started to talk about her career. She was showing me her new folio which was mostly tacky "cheerleading" shots. This girl is 5'3'' and not the most attractive of people, well i guess what im getting at is that shes "mens magazine" material, meaning that it doesnt matter what she looks like so long as shes got what a girl shoudl have. (No offense to girls who love this modelling, its a valid form..but let me continue...) Now, this chick starts telling me how I should mention her to people for runway work, she seroiusly thinks she can headline a show. So now im thinking..jeez, err how do i give some advice, so i say "maybe you should get more fashion shots in your folio?" and she kind of got a little offended. Shes an amature who doesnt understand the different forms of modelling. How on earth do i tell her she really cant do runway? Jan 11 06 06:51 pm Link Katalina Daer wrote: Maybe as a gag you should give her some job apps for runway work at the airport... You know - for the ones that put food on planes and wave two flashlights around.. Jan 11 06 06:55 pm Link depends on how much you value her friendship and how blunt you want to be....can you say it in a nice way? maybe just suggest she gets more fashion shots in her portfolio before she begins looking for runway work...or perhaps point her in the direction of a photographer you think could do her some justice.... or if honesty doesn't suit you just smile and nod and say "i'll see what i can do" this might be the most diplomatic choice, despite the fact that sometimes it really feels good to deflate a unwarranted ego. good luck! Jan 11 06 06:57 pm Link Rather than burst a bubble, maybe you could find a single piece of helpful advice that would send her on her way in a positive direction. I would suggest becoming a part of fashion presentations that are hosted by mall department stores since there are plenty of petite niche lines that are sold by department stores and independents to cover the high price of mall leases and create excitement around the store by developing weekend crowds. It's still selling clothes, which afterall what all fashion modeling is, selling product. In terms of height, if she is proportional, there is always a chance to work for a petite designer as a fit model, which though entry level can lead to other avenues such as sales or purchasing. That's two obvious ideas in my mind... There's something to be said for pragmatism and Tim Gunn would call it "Make it Work Time" Jan 11 06 07:04 pm Link yeah, this girl is more of an annoying htign that wont go away. But i consider myself a nice person. She really truly believes this, i honestly cant think how someone could think they can do runway when they are the type of "model" that they are. Maybe i will just smile and nod. But what annoyed me was at the cafe she started flirting with the waiter and told him she was a model.. shes that kind of chick. Jan 11 06 07:06 pm Link There's always the Taffy Puller, for anyone who saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory...  Jan 11 06 07:06 pm Link Dave the design student wrote: hahaha, mad. Jan 11 06 07:07 pm Link Katalina Daer wrote: I had two friends at one time who used to introduce themselves as a model, an actor and me as "just the photographer" when we went out anytime anyone ever came up or within earshot. I was annoyed because at the time time, I was headlining a theater production and an indie feature....while they were not really as into it as I was, they were more for show. They were also several years younger than me. Jan 11 06 07:21 pm Link The Art of CIP wrote: lol Jan 11 06 08:06 pm Link Katalina Daer wrote: Give her this site address: http://www.newmodel.com Jan 11 06 08:09 pm Link The Art of CIP wrote: Wow, that was harsh! Jan 11 06 08:10 pm Link Oh, giving her some links might be a good idea. Just tell her you've found them really helpful or something. Jan 11 06 10:56 pm Link Katalina Daer wrote: Being "nice" does not much for anyone but keep the peace. If you offer any advice at all it should be a simple "get real". Not sure why everyone thinks this is such an insult. There are maybe a few thousand models worldwide who will earn a runway spot in any show in any given year. Supporting these kinds of fantasies does not help anyone. Jan 11 06 11:04 pm Link maybe you could have another model friend go in with you on this one...If you are close buddies with a fashion model in the area, maybe you and her could simply talk to the previously mentioned model about the industry. The true fashion model can bring along her port, and show some of the shots that her agency had her put in. Then, you can suggest that the before mentioned model try to work with a professional photographer to achieve some similar shots. If this model is truly intelligent and understanding, then maybe she will learn from the experience. It's always worth a shot. Jan 11 06 11:04 pm Link I am NOT a model. No really, I am not. I don't know why all these people keep wanting to take pictures of me. Jan 11 06 11:07 pm Link The Art of CIP wrote: Jan 11 06 11:15 pm Link The Art of CIP wrote: hahaha!!!! I Jan 11 06 11:15 pm Link She's 5'3". I don't think it is unkind to inform a short model of the reality of the business. There are no models of that height that have a career as a runway model . Jan 11 06 11:19 pm Link Give her a list of a few agents and send her around to them. They will give her the bad news in double quick time. Studio36 Jan 12 06 12:47 am Link Rebecca Alsbury wrote: lol, That sounds like a good idea, but alas, im a sad one, all my close model friends are in Italy and South Africa, lol. Jan 12 06 01:33 am Link Hello from humid horrid Sydney  Just be upfront with her. As a petite model type thing in Sydney, I can tell you it's pretty much impossible to get any paid runway work. If she wants to work for free, then she can probably get a gig with the local fashion colleges or the university when they have their year end parades. I get my runway work through the alternative scene, but that's not for everyone. She doesn't sound like the 'alt' type either She will learn on her own in the end. After she gets knocked back a few times with a very harsh "You're too short" from the caster - she'll get the idea. Jan 12 06 01:49 am Link Yeah, send her the netmodel link. Or send her here to talk to us. To be fair though, I'm 5'2" and I do several fashion shows per year. They're usually not paid though, heh. Jan 12 06 02:26 pm Link Lapis wrote: That's why. We figure if you think you're not a model, you'll be more likely to do what we want. Jan 12 06 03:56 pm Link Katalina Daer wrote: "Honey, you really can't do runway." Jan 12 06 04:22 pm Link Eric Muss-Barnes wrote: If you value her friendship tell her the truth.. if you dont value her friendship.. tell her the truth.. I have found that most people will respect you more and get over hurt feelings quicker if you are upfront with them and beat around the bush or lead them on by not giving them the real deal Jan 12 06 04:32 pm Link If she can't handle even a nice suggestion, I doubt she'll handle more blunt comments from agencies. She probably won't last long in the industry with an attitude. Jan 12 06 08:09 pm Link |
