Why was my photo marked "18+"?

The image contained nudity, depictions of violence or overtly sexual material. In other words, it wasn't "G-rated" enough. Adult members can still view the 18+ images when they are logged in. However, the images cannot be viewed by non-members or used as avatars. Besides preventing underaged users from viewing possibly inappropriate material, this cuts down on non-members cruising the site for nekkid chicks and saves on bandwidth.

Ok I have no problem with marking my images as being 18+ when I believe that they are showing more "stuff" than general society can bear (or bare..lol) in public, but I dont believe that my images are such.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … 6fd28c6e60
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … f037043a02
Who do i need to talk to to get my images coverted back to non - 18+

Paul Ferrara wrote:
Let's be serious.  You've got a shot of a guy with a hard-on there.  You do this for kicks or what?

Paul

how do you know hes got wood? maybe is a limp biskit... anyway, the only thing that stands out on there is the red, if it was all b/w would there be any discussion?

King wrote:

how do you know hes got wood? maybe is a limp biskit... anyway, the only thing that stands out on there is the red, if it was all b/w would there be any discussion?

It would still be marked 18+. No discussion.

Paul Ferrara wrote:
Let's be serious.  You've got a shot of a guy with a hard-on there.  You do this for kicks or what?

Paul

Hahah!! Is there anything I can say that won't be perceived and unmoderatorly?

Anyway, yes, visible pubic hair. 18+

Paul Ferrara wrote:
Let's be serious.  You've got a shot of a guy with a hard-on there.  You do this for kicks or what?

Paul

If that's a hard on?????.... Shame poor guy.

I've seen more revealing images that don't get the 18+ stamp. I hardly see pubes on those two images, if visibility of "once were pubes" is cause for 18+ then there are a lot of images that need the same treatment.

But hey whaaaaaaaatever, not like it's the end of the world I'm sure.

Paul Ferrara wrote:
Let's be serious.  You've got a shot of a guy with a hard-on there.  You do this for kicks or what?

Paul

Come on Paul.. is the sight of a male penis erect so hard for you to look at??? If my name was Mapplethorpe would we be having this discussion????

T Jones Photography wrote:
Thank you DawnElizabeth ... I have a question .. if I had photoshopped out the stubble would it still be considered 18+???  I an still confused on the red undies though, if female models can pose with hands covering breasts and it not be considered 18+ how can this image where no private area is being shown be consider so?  I have seen on a number of images both male and female of "bush" and even the top of the shaft of a penis that has not been marked 18+.

How many accounts you have?

T Jones Photography wrote:

Come on Paul.. is the sight of a male penis erect so hard for you to look at??? If my name was Mapplethorpe would we be having this discussion????

But does it need to be an avatar?   That is the question.   Any member can go to the port and see the images.

It just does not need to be an avatar.

I really do not see why it even needs to be.   What are you selling/promoting?

Miss Anthropy wrote:
Just toss the one with the red banana hammock.

HAhaha good one!!!!

Miss Anthropy wrote:
Why, because Soft core gay porn doesn't make a good avatar. Crop out the pubes and it will improve the photo. Just toss the one with the red banana hammock.

Thankyou,  I needed a good laugh today.   MM provides so often.

T Jones Photography wrote:
Come on Paul.. is the sight of a male penis erect so hard for you to look at??? If my name was Mapplethorpe would we be having this discussion????

Wait, they have FEMALE penises now too? Unless they do, wasn't it a tad redundant to specify that the penis belonged to a male?

OH and the images are tacky. Most of the stuff on both of the accounts you've posted from are. Sorry.

Miss Anthropy wrote:
Ok, I'm going to say something positive. Well, constructive. The play of the light against the torso is very nice, but you are making them too sexual. There's no money in it but you could easily do MALE FIGURE STUDIES. The difference is that these are not "erotic" in nature. Get a plain backdrop, the proper lights if you don't have them. Also don't harbour any illusions that you're making these calenders or whatever for WOMEN. The irony is that most of my gay friends would think that these pics are tacky too. OOps slipped into being snarky again. i gotta be me...

There might be money in male figure studies, I get inquires about about shooting nude guys every once in a while. If you're good at it, and these shots look good to me, you just need to find some clientele.

JM Dean wrote:

How many accounts you have?

I appologize for the confusion in this case.. I was meeting with another photographer and they were logged on when I made this reply.  I am the OP and I DO NOT have more than one account.  I just happened to reply to the earlier post forgetting that the other photographer was logged in.

Miss Anthropy wrote:
Wait, they have FEMALE penises now too? Unless they do, wasn't it a tad redundant to specify that the penis belonged to a male?

OH and the images are tacky. Most of the stuff on both of the accounts you've posted from are. Sorry.

I dont know why you are apologizing.. you have your opinion about other peoples work... just like Im sure some people have opinions about yours.  We may not all agree on what everyone likes.. that is why this is a free country and I can shoot whatever I want.

DawnElizabeth Moderator wrote:
BTW: if any of you come across images that you feel need to be 18+, please use the CAM function and let us know. We really appreciate this since most of us don't have the time to patrol the existing members to see what's been added since they've been apprived.

I'm really sorry about the 18+ marking, I felt it was necessary. Not really for the red undies, but I didn;t do that one. If you feel that I am in error, I invite you to ask another moderator or two and see if they feel different than I do on this one. Use the contac-a-mod function.

Thanks!

Thank you again DawnElizabeth for the information.. I will approach some of the other Mods and ask.

Josie Nutter wrote:
I also mark images 18+ that show pubes.  I'm pretty sure I didn't mark these ones, but I think whoever did so was _not_ out of line.  (Shrug.)

Thank you Josie.. I will acquiesce and leave the podium after one other question.. would this rule still apply to images that show the top of jeans, trousers, or any covering for that matter that starts just above the shaft of the penis.. but still shows pubic hair or even the pubic bone?

Images By Ijumo wrote:

Ok I have no problem with marking my images as being 18+ when I believe that they are showing more "stuff" than general society can bear (or bare..lol) in public, but I dont believe that my images are such.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … 6fd28c6e60
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … f037043a02
Who do i need to talk to to get my images coverted back to non - 18+

The best and easiest way to get your shots "unflagged" is to crop them. I understand that your focus & interest may target the soft core gay porn market, but I agree that MM admin/moderators made the right decision. There ARE underage MM members here and I think the "red flag" is not only prudent but responsible behavior. There are plenty of more restricted adult sites where your body of work can be displayed unedited.

Images By Ijumo wrote:

Ok I have no problem with marking my images as being 18+ when I believe that they are showing more "stuff" than general society can bear (or bare..lol) in public, but I dont believe that my images are such.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … 6fd28c6e60
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … f037043a02
Who do i need to talk to to get my images coverted back to non - 18+

Simple... Nobody wants to see sweaty half naked dudes on the screen!

Digital Al wrote:
Simple... Nobody wants to see sweaty half naked dudes on the screen!

I beg to differ on that point. I know I for one enjoy a sweaty dude on the odd occasion.These are much more than half naked. One is totally naked and the other is nude but for the bright red banana hammock.

I think what you mean to say is "no straight male likes to look at sweaty half naked dudes", right?

mollie_lane wrote:
The best and easiest way to get your shots "unflagged" is to crop them. I understand that your focus & interest may target the soft core gay porn market, but I agree that MM admin/moderators made the right decision. There ARE underage MM members here and I think the "red flag" is not only prudent but responsible behavior. There are plenty of more restricted adult sites where your body of work can be displayed unedited.

I keep seeing this reference to "soft core gay porn" WTF is that... this is the problem with America today.. why is is that anytime anyone shows a naked man it is supposedly geared toward a gay market... with that mentality.. all naked females are catering to the lesbian market?!?!?  Why cant an image of a naked body be simply viewed for the beautiful work of art that it is PEROID and not be catagorized for a particular market straight or gay?

Frisson wrote:
If someone hasn't got the time or the inclination to join this site then I'm pretty certain they wont generate the energy to contact me and enquire after my work.

It's almost worth marking all my images as 18+ so that only people who give a damn can view them.

Terry

Actually I also use this site to show people samples of my work.. and i couldnt do that if all of my images are suddenly marked 18+  I dont mind the rating at all.. I think my biggest gripe with the whole deal was that none of the moderators contacted me in advance and requested that I make the change myself.. it was just done.  If anyone has looked at my folio they would see that I dont mind marking my images appropriately myself.. and would have felt more agreeable to the marking of said images if someone had the courtesy of asking me to do it myself.

Images By Ijumo wrote:
Actually I also use this site to show people samples of my work.. and i couldnt do that if all of my images are suddenly marked 18+  I dont mind the rating at all.. I think my biggest gripe with the whole deal was that none of the moderators contacted me in advance and requested that I make the change myself.. it was just done.  If anyone has looked at my folio they would see that I dont mind marking my images appropriately myself.. and would have felt more agreeable to the marking of said images if someone had the courtesy of asking me to do it myself.

Because of the incredible volume of images that members don't mark, we don't often notify people when we mark images.  Granted, in a borderline case like this it would be a good idea.  However, you are always welcome to use the CAM form and we'll explain if you're unsure why something was done.

We cool like dat.

Images By Ijumo wrote:

I keep seeing this reference to "soft core gay porn" WTF is that... this is the problem with America today.. why is is that anytime anyone shows a naked man it is supposedly geared toward a gay market... with that mentality.. all naked females are catering to the lesbian market?!?!?  Why cant an image of a naked body be simply viewed for the beautiful work of art that it is PEROID and not be catagorized for a particular market straight or gay?

My comment was NOT biased, personal, nor an attack, just a personal observation & perception of what your photographic interest, focus, & target market appeared to be. And I offered an amenable solution to meet your desires as well still adhere to MM standards & requirements.

Diversity in perception, opinion, and personal preference is a GIVEN when anyone
willingly goes public and opens their body of work to the public and public opinion. The majority do not offer their personal and/or professional opinion on MM portfolios unless asked. There is a small percentage of people who DO give their opinions (positive or negative) without request or invitation. THAT is a given within online showcases as well as public art displays and/or gallery showcasing. Thick skin is a necessary survival tool.

Additionally, any member or potential member of MM who uploads photos, sees a  banner appear that requests that you YOURSELF label photos 18+ if they meet certain nude and/or implied nude criteria. There is ALSO a help window that when opened EXPLAINS what constitutes 18+ flag over the photo.  So you WERE given the opportunity to flag the photos on your own.

theda wrote:

Because of the incredible volume of images that members don't mark, we don't often notify people when we mark images.  Granted, in a borderline case like this it would be a good idea.  However, you are always welcome to use the CAM form and we'll explain if you're unsure why something was done.

We cool like dat.

Thanks Theda... I really dont mind the rating... and I guess my main goal with this thread and with my photography in general is to push the envelope to what is considered art vs pornography