Photographer

SFPic

Posts: 24

Santa Monica, California, US

Almost all of us are taking nude pics (photographers and models), aren't we suppose to have 2257 forms filled out for every shoot? And those special ID by the face pics?

Jan 22 08 12:27 am Link

Photographer

SI Photography

Posts: 1894

NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California, US

kesha1 wrote:
Almost all of us are taking nude pics (photographers and models), aren't we suppose to have 2257 forms filled out for every shoot? And those special ID by the face pics?

Only if you show sex acts or simulation of sex acts...so no.

Jan 22 08 12:29 am Link

Photographer

Mike Kelcher

Posts: 13322

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

kesha1 wrote:
Almost all of us are taking nude pics (photographers and models), aren't we suppose to have 2257 forms filled out for every shoot? And those special ID by the face pics?

No. No. Only for images that would be considered "sexually explicit".

Jan 22 08 12:30 am Link

Photographer

SFPic

Posts: 24

Santa Monica, California, US

So, the authorities would not care to make sure that the people on the nude pics were over 18?

Jan 22 08 12:32 am Link

Photographer

Mr Banner

Posts: 85322

Hayward, California, US

kesha1 wrote:
So, the authorities would not care to make sure that the people on the nude pics were over 18?

an adult model release would still likely be a good idea for nudes.

Jan 22 08 12:34 am Link

Photographer

SI Photography

Posts: 1894

NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California, US

Damon Banner wrote:

an adult model release would still likely be a good idea for nudes.

Yeah and it can't hurt to shoot an ID by their face anyways. Why not.

Jan 22 08 12:36 am Link

Photographer

SFPic

Posts: 24

Santa Monica, California, US

That's what I though. I do check their ID's , but god forbid the rules will be changed on nude photography all together - a lot of very good works will have to disappear.
   Because if she showed you a fake ID ,or something, you still can get in trouble, huh?

Jan 22 08 12:38 am Link

Photographer

FOToronto

Posts: 25

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

kesha1 wrote:
That's what I though. I do check their ID's , but god forbid the rules will be changed on nude photography all together - a lot of very good works will have to disappear.
   Because if she showed you a fake ID ,or something, you still can get in trouble, huh?

I'm going off an assumption here. I'm pretty sure that if the law was changed it would only apply to works created thereafter.

Jan 22 08 04:23 am Link

Photographer

Mike Kelcher

Posts: 13322

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

kesha1 wrote:
So, the authorities would not care to make sure that the people on the nude pics were over 18?

No. Actually, it's a common misconception that there's some law that makes shooting nudes of people under 18 illegal. Don't get me wrong, I don't shoot nudes of underage models, but, technically, I don't think it's illegal here in Minnesota. Pornography (as opposed to nudity) is a totally different issue. The issue gets clouded because some people think that all nude images are pornographic.

Jan 22 08 04:34 am Link

Photographer

Mike Kelcher

Posts: 13322

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

kesha1 wrote:
Because if she showed you a fake ID ,or something, you still can get in trouble, huh?

No. Photographers are not required to be document authenticity specialists. When an ID is required to prove age, we only need to behave as most reasonable people would. If an ID is obviously fake that's one thing, but if it looks reasonably good, we don't have to verify it's authenticity. If it's good enough to buy cigarettes with, it's probably good enough.

Jan 22 08 04:39 am Link

Photographer

Bob Bentley Photography

Posts: 15141

Westcliffe, Colorado, US

kesha1 wrote:
Almost all of us are taking nude pics (photographers and models), aren't we suppose to have 2257 forms filled out for every shoot? And those special ID by the face pics?

No. You are an independant contractor.  1099.  Do you 10-4?

Jan 22 08 09:11 am Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

SI Photography wrote:
Only if you show sex acts or simulation of sex acts...so no.

Or what the "Church Lady" in a position of authority might deem as such.

Isn't that special!

Mikes Images - Mike #4 wrote:
The issue gets clouded because some people think that all nude images are pornographic.

Like that "Church Lady".

Jan 22 08 09:15 am Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

kesha1 wrote:
That's what I though. I do check their ID's , but god forbid the rules will be changed on nude photography all together - a lot of very good works will have to disappear.
   Because if she showed you a fake ID ,or something, you still can get in trouble, huh?

If someone used a fake ID, and this is documented photographically, the presenter should by viewed legally as an adult as far as the resulting images are concerned.

If they want to play adult, then let them have the experience.

Jan 22 08 09:21 am Link

Photographer

Analog Nomad

Posts: 4097

Pattaya, Central, Thailand

Sounds like you're looking for trouble -- what's the point?

Yes, we need to be careful when shooting nudes. Not exactly a newsflash.

And we also need to be careful not to trip over cords, avoid food-poisoning, and to always look both ways before crossing the street.

2257 in no way shape or form applies to the vast majority of nude imagery that is posted on MM. Simply not an issue. Will it in the future? Who knows? But probably not.

Cheers,
Paul


kesha1 wrote:
That's what I though. I do check their ID's , but god forbid the rules will be changed on nude photography all together - a lot of very good works will have to disappear.
   Because if she showed you a fake ID ,or something, you still can get in trouble, huh?

Jan 22 08 09:24 am Link