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How do you develop a model?
Does she get a special incubation pod? Serious question though, I have seen the term floating about. âThis model I was developingâ? âAfter two years of developing this/that modelâ? It almost sounds like a thinly veiled attempt at managment. Shooting exclusively = Training = Development or am I wrong about this. What exactly model development? Jan 04 06 11:45 am Link Perhaps they are too Lazy to type, "developing a relationship with"? Jan 04 06 11:47 am Link it's when they take you into the dark room and... nevermind Jan 04 06 11:51 am Link Iona Lynn wrote: It's where you teach a rookie the ins and outs of what you know about the business. Jan 04 06 11:51 am Link How do you develop a model? With Dektol, of course! Oh, wait, this isn't the photographer's forum, nevermind.... Jan 04 06 11:51 am Link i accidentally developed a model once. im not sure what i did or how i did it. but now she hasn't returned my call and i can't get a shoot with her even though i got her paid work and into all the local mags. :shrug: Jan 04 06 11:52 am Link I have no clue why I am going to, but its wensday and I am bored. Some models think that being pretty is all they need to do and in fact some people are so awesome at this they can just show up. For the most part though, it takes more then just showing up. If it did not there would be more working and successful models. So a lot of the time Photographers have to stop and explain what sexy is, what sad is, or more so how we see it. It is like OJT in a way. Now, I am sure some people use the term just to attract models that might think that this person can show you enough stuff to get you working and paid. In the end, modeling is in the eyes and you have to be an actress that only gets to use your eyes to act. So write down all the emotions you can and go to the mirror and see how many you can make come alive in your eyes. I think that is what most Photographers mean in this case of the word. Or maybe they still use film.. HAHA! Jan 04 06 11:54 am Link Angel Tara wrote: LMAO Jan 04 06 11:59 am Link Perhaps, just perhaps, if the photographer who said that has frequent covers in Vogue or Cosmo, if he has an ongoing relationshiop with a major brick and mortar model agency, ie Ford, Arlene Wilson, etc, then it might mean he was participating in her training and eposure, ie the New York Fashion Week, or something similar. Otherwise it means he's blowing smoke and getting a free model. Jan 04 06 11:59 am Link LaMarco Photography wrote: LOL, and some on OMP don't even realize that they aren't pretty. Jan 04 06 12:58 pm Link Iona Lynn wrote: 12 minutes in D76 followed by a wash and then fixer. Jan 04 06 01:05 pm Link Angel Tara wrote: HAHAHAHAHahahahaaaaaaa OOO the dark rooms good times Jan 04 06 01:06 pm Link Angel Tara wrote: And then some of them are under or over exposed. Jan 04 06 01:07 pm Link Oliver Cole wrote: if they come out with their eyes all wide, they have been OVERexposed... Jan 04 06 01:19 pm Link Angel Tara wrote: ... Jan 04 06 01:21 pm Link Monsante Bey wrote: And so many models need this at first...but, unlicensed assholes have given 'model management; such a bad name that even though I know a lot of things to warn models about, I could never devote such time to helping someone and then being called bad names if I expected to get paid for it. Jan 04 06 01:23 pm Link Lapis wrote: Which is why I don't manage. Jan 04 06 01:25 pm Link Monsante Bey wrote: it beats coming out laughing... Jan 04 06 01:26 pm Link Angel Tara wrote: All work and no play makes bey a dull man... Jan 04 06 01:30 pm Link Monsante Bey wrote: If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve. -William Tecumseh Sherman Jan 04 06 01:35 pm Link Good points. it is along what I had thought thanks for the input and laughs. Jan 04 06 02:01 pm Link Iona Lynn wrote: I have yet to see a photographer have the ability to "develop" a model. Anyone that says they have that ability is a hack and doesn't have a clue about the modeling industry...even at the 'net or adult levels. Jan 04 06 02:32 pm Link The comment about eyes wide open has been OVERexposed is priceless. LMAO Anyways my perspective if your talking about a professional career focus would be all factors from teaching her to pose properly up to getting her gigs and being her manager to an extent both are happy with. This would also include promoting the model as well. As stated above this is no 30 day thing and its not 2 hours a day either, its hours upon hours of work, practice and wait and see. This would truely be a real managers job, no one pretending to do this will be able to do all of it correctly. A real manager will have no problems at all doing all of it correctly and 24/7, if you make it then he makes it, its a full time job. EDIT: You did leave out one important factor..."Contract". Jan 04 06 02:43 pm Link Has anyone ever heard of a FEMALE photographer developing models? Jan 04 06 05:37 pm Link Very good point. star I do have a female photographer that I have worked with and I don't think she has ever used that term with me. she is a great resourse though in the knowlage she has provided as well as what other photographers are terrific and what ones may be lacking in skills (photography and or otherwise) Jan 04 06 08:48 pm Link Star wrote: No, and I think having some female 'model developers' might be a very very good idea. Jan 04 06 10:14 pm Link Ilona, in the real world of advertising, this is what development means; http://www.newmodels.com/modelintro.html There are photographers that will help models along their career path. There are any number of reasons that they will do this. Some are purely selfish, and some completely altruistic. Most fall somewhere in between. The photographers that can help develop a models career are those that work in the industry. Really work. Every day. Make their income from it. Pay their bills doing it. The ones that know people that make decisions about agency representation, that hire models themselves for real advertising or editorial jobs, that know people that hire models for real work in the advertising business. Photographers that can walk into an agency (or agencies) and have their favorite booker meet a new prospect. Photographers that hire models for clients, not some guy that pays you out of his pocket so he can work on his portfolio, and not some small-time shooter that does $100 jobs twice a year, and not some shooter that makes his money from selling portfolio shots, but full time fashion or commercial photographers. Most photographers can not do this. Only the ones that deal with the clients or agents regularly. Those photogs know what the industry demands, and can weed out the "models" that can or will not cut it in the business. They are very selective, because it's their reputation on the line if they bring in someone that doesn't cut it when it comes crunch time. There is no school for modeling, but there is a lot that a prospective model needs to know. Helping a prospect get from wannabe to working model, that is model development. I hope this helps a little. It can be confusing. It's a big world, and there aren't many road signs. Hoot Jan 05 06 03:10 am Link Another one step missing: acting lessons.  Jan 05 06 03:17 am Link Lapis wrote: Star, I have. Jan 05 06 03:30 am Link i think, realistically speaking now, that there are a lot of girls(and doods) that wanna try out modeling but really don't have the capacity, yet, to be one. girls(or doods) that are too shy, or too sheltered to get out of her(his) shell. we photographers have met them, you models know'em, they're just not emotionally ready. so some people think that they can be that fatherly/big brother and guide them forward and perhaps later on try out some incestuous.. nevermind.. but seriously, if a girl isn't ready, there's nothing to develop. people need to understand that if someone isn't ready, nothing is going to move them into a direction that'll make them that way. i thought people learned this in sunday school in "how to convert non-believers 101". ---and yes, i'm some over middle-aged deadbeat fellow who's divorced with three kids and developing models all the time. -stanley Jan 05 06 03:39 am Link my current photographer, Satat, which happens to be my wife lol has kinda gotten me to come out of my shell a bit. Before her I would have never thought to model ( which I would kick myself for now ). I hope to get more out there to work with some other photographers though, Satats fun to work with but daaaamn is she a freaky artist type lol Jan 05 06 04:39 am Link |
