Melvin Moten Jr wrote:
When you have to call someone else a GWC, it probably means you're a GWC...no matter how many years you've spent in "the industry."  A "professional" would have better things to do than pointing that out.

You and I need to go bar hoppin, Bro. The beer is on me! I have been called a GWC a few times on here by certain photographers and then thought" Have you looked at your own work, or compared it to mine and the others here?". I have never been called a GWC by any models, only photographers. Makes ya wonder, huh.

John Jebbia wrote:
"Sex With a Photographer"
"When is it OK to touch a model's vagina?"
"Hard-On's durring photoshoots"
"Models getting turned on durring a shoot"
etc...

Sometimes I get the feeling people start these types of threads to get themselves off. I could be wrong, but...

And don't you know? When you start such a discussion, it only outs you as a GWC. But then again, maybe it's good that you start threads like these so we know who you are.

That is all.

You notice that you and Eric are the only PHOTOGRAPHERS in this post. Anyone defending any other position is by definition a GWC.

Yes! that means Melvin and Glamour Boulavard

joe duerr wrote:

You notice that you and Eric are the only PHOTOGRAPHERS in this post. Anyone defending any other position is by definition a GWC.

Yes! that means Melvin and Glamour Boulavard

But he already brought up the issue so he you and I are GWs of some sort.

The only one who is not is the GWC #12835.  Who can speak of it without being a GWC.   He is just vain based on his greatness.

Glamour Boulevard wrote:
Well these are all real life things that happen during some photo shoots.So I see nothing wrong with the issues being brought up as long as they don`t seem like some little kid indirectly seeking permission or validation for their behavior.A lot of the threads that start with corny sometimes GWC type titles actually turn out pretty good but they also often start and end as corny as when they started. Like the How to become a creepy photographer thing.I mean, cmon. Now, if we were to have a humor section, some of the corny threads might be fine in there.

I can only add that if anyone actually went and looked at the "Sex With Photographer" thread, they'd find the reason for the volume of posts was the humor that evolved out of a post from a phony member. As GB says, a lot of these need to be in a humor section as they tend to be an outlet for letting off steam... it is afterall ModelMAYHEM. The fact that humor is injected doesn't automatically qualify the poster as GWC.

John Jebbia wrote:
And don't you know? When you start such a discussion, it only outs you as a GWC.

From the Model Mayhem Frequently Asked Questions:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/faq.php#q16

What is a GWC?

GWC is an acronym for "Guy With Camera." It's a derogatory term for amateur photographer that's taken the interweb by storm. It usually implies that said guy is only interested in photography to get hot ladies to get nekkid for him.

A discussion about "human" reactions doesn't "out" someone as GWC, but some (not you!) members very hostile reactions (over reactions) to certain topics, screaming how unprofessional others are make me sometimes wonder why there is such a huge outrage.

Reminds me of a fundamental bible baptist minister, who constantly is wielding the bible, pointing out other peoples sin, and how they are sinners in front of god, and fornicators etc., and was sexually molesting his adopted daughter from age 9 to 15.

I know, because I've dated that young lady for a while and found out about this long time after she opened up to me. Investigations later on were foiled by the congregation who served as character witnesses and denounced the evil spirit in the girl.

Some of the reactions of some members just remind me of that behavior.

Glamour Boulevard wrote:
You and I need to go bar hoppin, Bro.

yeah, seriously melvin. except i'm actually close enough to make good on this offer.

Glamour Boulevard wrote:
I have been called a GWC a few times on here by certain photographers and then thought" Have you looked at your own work, or compared it to mine and the others here?"

Interesting.

joe duerr wrote:
You notice that you and Eric are the only PHOTOGRAPHERS in this post. Anyone defending any other position is by definition a GWC.

Yes! that means Melvin and Glamour Boulavard

I am not a GWC...I'm a pornographer...the least you could do is use the right invective.

jac3950 wrote:
I can only add that if anyone actually went and looked at the "Sex With Photographer" thread, they'd find the reason for the volume of posts was the humor that evolved out of a post from a phony member.

As soon as I saw that persons OP and the photos in the profile I saw it all coming a mile away.

joe duerr wrote:
You notice that you and Eric are the only PHOTOGRAPHERS in this post. Anyone defending any other position is by definition a GWC.

Yes! that means Melvin and Glamour Boulavard

Hey... at least Melvin's images are interesting and not the typical vapid glammer shot.

Mayanlee wrote:
Hey... at least Melvin's images are interesting and not the typical vapid glammer shot.

Careful... the spelling patrol might getcha...

theda wrote:

Careful... the spelling patrol might getcha...

I hope you are not part of that patrol,lol.

theda wrote:

Careful... the spelling patrol might getcha...

Heck... "glammer" is accepted lexicon on these boards.  I'm not afraid of you.

Mayanlee wrote:

Heck... "glammer" is accepted lexicon on these boards.  I'm not afraid of you.

*snicker*

Mayanlee wrote:

Heck... "glammer" is accepted lexicon on these boards.  I'm not afraid of you.

I'm not the spelling patrol, but I've used "glammer" before and had people jump up and down about spelling.  Yes, they were glammer shooters.

Ty Simone wrote:
If you can not understand the purpose behind some of those threads, then perhaps you should fine a hang out elsewhere.

I am sure StaciF (Model) had all sorts of bad intentions when she started the Thread "Models that sleep with Photographers"

Yeah Right.

Personally, I find most of them to be humorous, and surprisingly John, Most of them are a form of dark humor directed at people like you.

ouch!

Alan from Aavian Prod wrote:
It is hard enough to get respect for the industry.  There is a widespread peception that "Penthouse Letters" are tame compared to the business.

I don't want to get into the substance of those threads because some of the posters were just trying to be forthright, but I agree with you.  Whether or not there was truth to what was being said, I think the lurid ones are, in general, inappropriate.

There comes a time where we all need to look to the image of our business and the ethics under which we want to operate.

Ethics?  In photography?  From what I've experience, there are more ethics in Pro Wrestling than photography/modelling.  A lot more. 

And since we're all basically here selling sexuality in one form or another, I don't know what meaning the work "inappropriate" might have around here.  That isn't exactly a graduation portrait in your avatar.

John Jebbia wrote:
"Sex With a Photographer"
"When is it OK to touch a model's vagina?"
"Hard-On's durring photoshoots"
"Models getting turned on durring a shoot"
etc...

Sometimes I get the feeling people start these types of threads to get themselves off. I could be wrong, but...

And don't you know? When you start such a discussion, it only outs you as a GWC. But then again, maybe it's good that you start threads like these so we know who you are.

That is all.

Whats worse is when you scour pages and pages of replies and none of the good stories are posted, hehe- with names and MM numbers.  :-))

Melvin Moten Jr wrote:
Ethics?  In photography?...

I don't know what meaning the work "inappropriate" might have around here.

"Around here" is certainly not even the slightest representation of the modeling industry by any stretch of the imagination...

Melvin Moten Jr wrote:

*snicker*

* mars bar *

Mayanlee wrote:
Heck... "glammer" is accepted lexicon on these boards.  I'm not afraid of you.

-irish accent- 'Im a litt-le lexicon. where`s me gold coin?!"

Ok, no more coffee. I swear.

DawnElizabeth Moderator wrote:
But it's all fun!

Yes it is...... damn, you changed your avatar.....

Playful Media wrote:
Funny how everyone talks about creepy photographers and GWC's yet when you look at the post count of those threads they the highest of all threads.

That's because people take this place too seriously when overall it's just good entertainment.

Playful Media wrote:
Exactly my point. I just laugh when I see how everyone is trying to be so serious around here yet jump all over the "non" serious threads. Just like real life. Everyone is full of shit.

passes out laxatives