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Are we so scarred from being taunted and teased for our childhood fears that we can't help attack someone else's anxieties? Many have pointed out "doesn't anybody read? this is a MUA not a model..." but read a little deeper: it's also a young lady, no older or more worldly than some of our fresh-faced models who get yanked around and exploited for their naivete, every day. She's nervous, because she's never done it. Everyone here has done something for the first time before. I've seen McDonalds clerks sweat and shake because they were new and afraid to do something wrong (not exactly life and death there, Hamburglar). I want to yell and berate, then I remember: I used to be "new" too; not at Mickey D's, but we've all anxiously done something new before When she has a little more experience - as a stylist, and a person living in the scary grownup world - she'll laugh at her former fears. The steps to avoiding death at the hands of a sociopathic photographer will be second nature. I hope she has a little sympathy left for nervous young stylists by then. The tip about contacting the model and arriving at the same time was best, I think. I would never want to be a cosmetic-preference-go-between in a million thousand years. If you want to talk to the model about skin type, false eyelashes etc., have at it. I would never suspect that you were afraid I'd kill you (well, I guess I would now... but I guess I wouldn't really be that offended). I apologize to those posters on this topic that weren't heartless and cruel, but I have no problem with people being afraid - just the bullies who tease them for it. To the snide peanut gallery: I hope you all have daughters one day, so you get whiplash into square-guy-land (like I did). Dec 10 05 03:02 am Link easyonthe eyes wrote: She asked this as a question of professionalism. The real professional world is heartless and cruel...the MM community was by far nicer to her than a group of professionals in the off-line world would have been. Dec 10 05 08:55 am Link Looknsee Photography wrote: Very true. But I always suggest to any model bring an escort, because I usually have one too. If I don't have a MUA/stylists, I have a girlfriend, or other model that I trust, there with me at all times. I want a witness on my behalf that I never touch the model. Dec 10 05 09:34 am Link For me escorts kill the mood of a shoot. Ive had escorts at shoots three times and in all the mood was not as good as it could have been and the shots suffered. Regarding safety- dont work with creepy people. A guy like me has worked with dozens of MM models and all of them are linked from my port. Do your homework- mail any of them. I dont know about what is professional or not- Im an amateur- semi pro at best. I have another way to support my family. What I do know is that my style of images is all about connection between subject and I- the eyes, the expressions, etc. Thats what I like most in an image. The sexiness, wardrobe, ideas, colors- all neat- but for me- connection is the most magical. Its hard to connect with extraneous people at the shoot. Dec 10 05 10:04 am Link never fell bad a bout being safe.. Get buddy buddy with a make-up artist this way you can bring your own artist and be safe at the same time. Dec 10 05 10:00 pm Link Deadly Design Make-up wrote: she *is* a make-up artist. Dec 10 05 10:03 pm Link MOST PHOTOGRAPHERS WOULD TELL YOU TO BRING SOMEONE ALONG, SO YOU CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE...I DONT SEE HOW THAT WOULD BE UNPROFESSIONAL. Dec 10 05 10:08 pm Link BIJOUX wrote: Most people wouldn't post in all caps...I don't see how that would be unprofessional either. Dec 10 05 10:09 pm Link HUH??? Dec 10 05 10:10 pm Link BIJOUX wrote: https://www.modelmayhem.com/rules.php Dec 10 05 10:16 pm Link I'm wondering how many of the people who are recommending that this Makeup Artist bring an llama herder to a professional photo shoot, have ever *been* to a professional photo shoot. As a question of professionalism there is no grey area...it is unprofessional As a question of working with people from the internet? Well, is it a professional shoot? If not then why are you worried about professionalism? Dec 10 05 11:13 pm Link |
