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Is it fair for a photographer to ask about augmentation?
Scenario: I have a client and a model working with me to promote a product. The product is a vitamin creme and they want to promote a wholesome look and therefore a model (personally chosen) is deemed "perfect" for the job. Contracts presented, but just before signing, client contacts me and asks me if model has been augmented (ugh). I have no idea, and am afraid to ask, but if said model has the augmentation, client refuses to contract her for work. First of all, is that fair? And second, has any model/photographers experienced this in the past ? I wouldn't be asking but the client is paying a hefty sum for the model (and me). Thanks in advance. May 11 05 06:13 pm Link If the client wants natural, then it's fair. May 11 05 06:14 pm Link I think it's fair...I wouldn't be offended if i was asked. May 11 05 06:14 pm Link been what? I'm sorry for being thick but what is augmentation!? May 11 05 06:14 pm Link Boob job May 11 05 06:16 pm Link ahh ok i thought it was going to be worse. and no thats fair although i guess it doesnt really matter if u can;t tell occasionally a boob job looks ok May 11 05 06:18 pm Link Posted by Kevin Greggain: Is the product selling a means to enlagre breast, could be seen as false advertisiment if the model is not natural. Trust me someone when seeing the ad will write in and ask if the model is natural.....crazy as it may seems it happens May 11 05 06:19 pm Link Pretty standard request for a commercial job. May 11 05 06:21 pm Link I have a hard time asking a model if she had augmentation. I look at them and if they look normal, or proportioned, who cares ? If she had 76HHH then it would be pretty easy to find out but if she looks natural (to me), it doesn't matter to me. This is the first client that has done this to me. Sadly, the model went from A-C and therefore will not be used for the shoot. It sucks because she is a perfect fit. May 11 05 06:45 pm Link My personal opinion...if you can't tell, why should it matter?!?! May 11 05 06:47 pm Link Posted by Wendi Meece: But is the client selling a product that will give you larger breast, is my impression of the product and if she didn;t achieve this with their product..it's false advertisement May 11 05 06:49 pm Link Posted by Wendi Meece: you can always tell.. May 11 05 06:53 pm Link The cream is like a skin re-vitalizer. It is nto a breast enlargement cream. Does that crap even work ?? What if a guy spilled that on himself.. Would he need a bra ?  May 11 05 06:55 pm Link Posted by Kevin Greggain: Totally and completely fine and acceptable to ask the model. The customer is always right. If the client wants natural, they have every right to ask. May 11 05 07:56 pm Link Like what - attached plumbing? Thats great - you made me laugh.... thanks Posted by sarahlouise: May 11 05 10:08 pm Link Ask away.... or just look... you can easily tell... Or if the model walks in and takes her top of in 5 minutes - they are more than likely bolt on's - and she is a proud owner.. I have never not asked - it is a question on my interview paperwork May 11 05 10:09 pm Link Of course it's a legit and perfectly normal question, especially if you're hiring her. You're paying for all of her aren't you? Would you hire a blonde if the client wants a brunette? No matter how good the boob job looks doesn't matter. Saying you can't tell or no will ever notice holds no truth whatsoever. Some will not notice, many in this biz will and that just doesn't cut it. May 11 05 11:09 pm Link Two part answer: It's often VERY important. For example some clothes just work better with implants. Wicked Weasel comes immediately to mind. That's why there's this thing that's known as a "go see." If the client doesn't take advantage of "going and seeing" the prospective models before the job, the client doesn't have a lot of room to complain about the model selection. May 11 05 11:42 pm Link What's wrong with asking if her boobs are fake? May 11 05 11:47 pm Link Ask away. There's nothing wrong with asking a model about possible plastic surgery. May 12 05 12:29 am Link Posted by Kevin Greggain: Personally I prefer not working with models who are augmented. I just like natural myself. Is it fair. Yes if your project requires one or the other. As Alex stated there could be other legal concerns. And you didn't post what type of campaign you are shooting so it's hard to say one way or another in this case. May 12 05 12:06 pm Link Posted by DJ Foothill: Not even sure it could be that. This is the nature of the business. Example: We received a print casting notice today. The client wants strictly Latino/Hispanic models (all ages and types - this is not an Internet glamour thing). This is the 4th time for a casting from the same client for the same ethnic type only. If modeling was not modeling and it was a factory, office, or other type of job, they could not get away with that. By the nature of this business, however, one can specify everything down to the exact look of a person, their age, their eye color, ethnic type/skin, or even their religion. It can, and does happen. In fact, it happens in almost every job - as the client specifies exactly what they want to see for their final image. May 12 05 12:24 pm Link Photography and modeling are all about appearence. I would say it's very fair... May 12 05 12:55 pm Link Like it or not the client rules. May 12 05 01:00 pm Link It has to be asked if your going to be modeling very small swim suits. Most of the augmentation I have seen looks fake (especially on really thin models) It's a turn off to a lot of people and I have a few clients that ask....I know a model that just lost a big job for a line of clothing because she looks like she has a couple of beach balls balanced on her bony chest. This isn't a good look in my opinion I think people are getting away from this look, natural is back in. I don't want to insult all the models that have implants, I have seen some good ones but most I have seen look fake. May 12 05 01:03 pm Link Posted by Austin Models & Talent Agency: Posted by DJ Foothill: Not even sure it could be that. This is the nature of the business. Example: We received a print casting notice today. The client wants strictly Latino/Hispanic models (all ages and types - this is not an Internet glamour thing). This is the 4th time for a casting from the same client for the same ethnic type only. If modeling was not modeling and it was a factory, office, or other type of job, they could not get away with that. By the nature of this business, however, one can specify everything down to the exact look of a person, their age, their eye color, ethnic type/skin, or even their religion. It can, and does happen. In fact, it happens in almost every job - as the client specifies exactly what they want to see for their final image. TRUST me... it doesn't stop people from suing for stupid shit. But yes absolutly. If I need blonde big boobed girls for my blonde big boobed girl video / magazine / website shoot then that is what I need. I mean I don't want an Irish looking girl for my Lezbo Latina's video line and website. Its all about product specific marketability. May 12 05 04:27 pm Link Kevin: I wouldn't have any qualms about it. We are in the body business... it's not like you are asking her on a first date if "those are real"... They are paying for the "body" of hers and not her feelings... if she has too much celluloid that can't be touched up, they wouldn't take her. If her belly would be flabby and she's have a gorgeous face but a huge butt... they wouldn't take her. It's a matter of qualifying for a product. May 12 05 04:32 pm Link Posted by DJ Foothill: Hmmmm... and you are in CALIFORNIA? May 12 05 04:36 pm Link Personally speaking, it does not matter to me if the model has had augmentation or not, unless the scars are still evident and it's a swimsuit or lingerie shoot. But since the client's fronting the money (and paying everybody) then they have the right to set whatever standards they feel the have to. I feel bad for the model, because she sounds like a really nice girl and all though. May 12 05 04:50 pm Link |
